SneezingPenis said:

go and look at some of my threads in here about ADHD and see how many people are vehemently opposed to me even writing this concept down.

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Dude, that's because you're talking out of your ass here. Massive direct-to-the-consumer drug company advertising to patients, parents, and teachers has succeeded in elevating ADD to "fad" status. You know how when they start naming symptoms, you're checking all those boxes in your head. And yes many lazy parents think something is wrong that isn't, because their kid is always bugging them.

The truth is A.D.D. & A.D.H.D. are very real and have biological causes like ALL true mental illnesses do. Depression and anxiety have no biological causes, and cause biological feedback, but physical genetic brain deformations are what cause symptoms like these to become persistent. That is why it is a disorder, and not a disease.

Disease: a definite pathological process having a characteristic set of signs and symptoms.  It may affect the whole body or any of its parts, and its etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown.  See also illness, mal, sickness, and syndrome.

Disorder: a derangement or abnormality of function; a morbid physical or mental state.

People like you are why there are social stigmas about mental disorders. You should educate yourself or keep quiet instead of spouting verbal diarrhea about a topic you clearly have no grasp on at all. Your problem is with mis-diagnosis, but instead you claim the condition is imaginary because you haven't seen it.

Notice how all my links are to reputable scientific books, websites & peer reviewed articles or at least places that cite those? Where was your link from? Daily Mail? ok I'm done.

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Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is an early-onset, clinically heterogeneous disorder of inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity. Family, twin, adoption, segregation analysis, and molecular genetic studies show that is has a substantial genetic component. Although their results are still tentative, molecular genetic studies suggest that three genes may increase the susceptibility to ADHD: the D4 dopamine receptor gene, the dopamine transporter gene, and the D2 dopamine receptor gene. Studies of environmental adversity have implicated pregnancy and delivery complications, marital distress, family dysfunction, and low social class. The pattern of neuropsychological deficits found in ADHD children implicate executive functions and working memory; this pattern is similar to what has been found among adults with frontal lobe damage, which suggests that the frontal cortex or regions projecting to the frontal cortex are dysfunctional in at least some ADHD children. Moreover, neuroimaging studies implicate frontosubcortical pathways in ADHD. Notably, these pathways are rich in catecholamines, which have been implicated in ADHD by the mechanism of action of stimulants—the class of drugs that effectively treats many ADHD children. Yet human studies of the catecholamine hypothesis of ADHD have produced conflicting results, perhaps due to the insensitivity of peripheral measures.

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n 2013, the Chicago Tribune reported that WebMD, "has struggled with a fall in advertising revenue with pharmaceutical companies slashing marketing budgets as several blockbuster drugs go off patent." In response, WebMD was investing in changes to its site the company hopes will entice users who use its site seeking specific information to then linger on the site reviewing other material.[7]

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Psychiatrists have yet to conclusively prove that a single mental illness has a biological or physical cause, or a genetic origin. Psychiatry has yet to develop a single physical test that can determine that an individual actually has a particular mental illness. Indeed, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders uses behavior, not physical symptoms, to diagnose mental illness, and it lacks both scientific reliability and validity.

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Rose said:

And to think, you could have made all those same points without making it personal.

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Rose said:

And to think, you could have made all those same points without making it personal.

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Almost alll the boards on this forum are filled with personal attacks rather than rational critical arguements, it's quite entertaining but sad at the same time.

SneezingPenis said:

in all my time here I have always asked anyone to offer some scientific peer-reviewed study that states X is a cause of ADHD/depression/anxiety that was biological.

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FrostyC said:

Rose said:

And to think, you could have made all those same points without making it personal.

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And so could OP without basically calling everyone who has A.D.D., or agrees that it is a problem, a liar. I have no real reason to try to be the bigger person, because I do not care what their opinion is of me personally. I have no desire to communicate with this individual anymore because of their lack of intelligence on the matter & I don't have to. If your perception of whether I present a scientifically accurate argument is based on how frustrated I allow myself to become over a person who covers their ears and says "I CAN'T HEAR YOU", then that is not my problem. Everyone is welcome to believe OP's lies if they so choose.

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badchad said:

SneezingPenis said:

in all my time here I have always asked anyone to offer some scientific peer-reviewed study that states X is a cause of ADHD/depression/anxiety that was biological.

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This is a reasonable observation, but there are plenty of phenomena that are similar.  A diagnosis of Parkinsons is based on observation.  A patient comes in and a doctors says: "hmm, I'll rate your tremor a 4, no...maybe a 5".  then asks questions about movements.  It's not an ordered test.

Alzheimers disease is the same way as is Post-traumatic stress disorder (also diagnosed via DSM, like ADHD).  Few would claim these disorders are made up.

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