trekie said:

Guy walks threateningly towards officer with 2 knives. Of course he is gonna be shot big fucking deal.

I feel bad for the cop who now has to live with the fact he had to kill someone for the rest of his life.


The guy shouldn't have been a bitch and just killed himself by himself fucking people.

Forcing someone else to kill you because you are to afraid too is one of the worst things you can do as a human.

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Not Responding said:

they are trained to shoot till the body drops. he dropped after 5. if he would have dropped after 2, he would have only fired twice.

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Crystal G said:

Not Responding said:

they are trained to shoot till the body drops. he dropped after 5. if he would have dropped after 2, he would have only fired twice.

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Did you see how far apart the bullets were spaced apart? It was literally one after the other after the other. The body would take at least a couple seconds to drop. He didn't even give half a second in between each bullet.

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Not Responding said:

they are trained to intervene. same situation when someone is trying to jump or a guy has a gun to his head. they cant just ignore it.

come on, man...

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Not Responding said:

for all of those who are saying "fuck cops, that kid didnt have to die..."

how old are you? the cop was going into an unknown situation knowing this guy wrecked his car and is now inside the house with a knife and is apparently suicidal.

he then asks if theres any exits. she says no which means theres only one way out. you have to be weary with situations like this. if someone is suicidal and is backed into a corner, some serious shit can happen.

that cop had every right to draw his weapon before entering.

he then called out to him more than once, but once he saw the guy around the corner with 2 knives, he called for immediate back up.

the guy started walking towards the cop.

he asked him repeatedly, to drop the knife. what did he do? he kept walking forward with the knives up.

he got closer and closer and was warned more than once.

the cop shot to defend himself and others.

most need to grow the fuck up. yes, there are shitty dirty cops. there are also amazing cops who are there to actually protect and to serve. cops that let little shit slide.

theres this black guy that lives down the street. hes shady, hes fucked off in the head, and would prob kill your little sister for her bike so he could sell for 20.00 just to get some rock. hes a dirty shit stain on this earth. thing is, i dont go around saying "fuck all black people". he is himself. just like cops.

i also guarantee that most that say fuck cops say this until they need them at their residences or where ever else. i bet you also wouldnt mind an officer shooting and killing some ass hole that broke into your house in the middle of the night and is now chasing your idiot dog around trying to eat it. of course you dont agree to having a gun in your house because 1, your a fucking hippie, or 2, youre not old enough to own a weapon.

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EdibleStereos said:

Okay, someone explain to me why the police could not wait outside the trailer?

They could have waited outside, and let the situation cool down.

If the man is inside, by himself, with knives, he is only a threat to himself.

By the officer going into the residence, he placed the victim and himself in danger. And by going in he brought a gun, which greatly increases the chance of someone dying.

If the cop had stayed outside, the very worst that would have happened would be this guy cutting his wrists. Which many suicides this way dont even die.

But chances are if the cop stayed outside, and let the man calm down. He would have been fine.

The officers knew he was just in a car accident, they say it on tape. It was 8am on a sunday morning, he could of been drunk, or on drugs. it is possible. Whether or not he was though, he may have hit his head in the crash, and had been in shock. People have done some very weird things while in a state of shock.

If you look at the way he is walking, he does not seem fully aware of the situation.

But if it was drugs, or shock, or neither and he is just snapped for another reason. If they would have left him alone, the officer never would have had to shoot him.

It is should be pretty well understood that you don't attempt to corner in someone who is having a mental break.

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Crystal G said:

Why FIVE times though, was that really necessary? Why couldn't he have just shot him once, clearly he would have been incapacitate from one shot?

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RiderOnTheStorm said:

Because the cop is fearing for his life and that's what you do, shoot til they fall. You cannot count on the stopping power from a single round being enough, especially not when the aggressor has two large knives. One good lunge and you could be cut wide open.

I do not think the officer was rounding the corner with the intention of searching through the house and finding the guy, I think he was clearing the open area. The guy is standing right around the blind spot of the corner wielding two big knives which are exceptionally deadly in close combat, he's vocally unresponsive and starts coming at the officer with the knives.

It's easy to look back in hindsight and see that the guy was too chicken shit to kill himself so he forced the cop to kill him instead, but for all the cop knew the guy hated cops and would have been more than happy to take one out before he went.

I think all of it was justified, clearing the main entry area, giving him repeated orders to drop the knives, and firing five times. If the guy had not come towards the cop I would not feel the same way.

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dontknow said:

It's not always easy to make the most rational decisions when you're in an enclosed space with a crazy person wielding a knife. Cops are just people too

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EdibleStereos said:

dontknow said:

It's not always easy to make the most rational decisions when you're in an enclosed space with a crazy person wielding a knife. Cops are just people too

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The officer made the choice to expose himself to an extremely dangerous situation needlessly. His presence did nothing except push the situation to an critical breaking point in which someone was killed.

I'd like to think that in a civilized society, preserving life would be of great value. And that matters regarding someones life be approached with reasoning and thought, instead of brute force and guns.

If the cop didnt go in, and the guy killed himself, big deal. His choice.

Did the cop really think someone freaking out like that would be able to respond rationally? That is the entire issue with dealing with someone who is suicidal, is they are not rational. You wont be able to force them to understand by yelling at them and pointing a gun at them.

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Crystal G said:

RiderOnTheStorm said:

Because the cop is fearing for his life and that's what you do, shoot til they fall. You cannot count on the stopping power from a single round being enough, especially not when the aggressor has two large knives. One good lunge and you could be cut wide open.

I do not think the officer was rounding the corner with the intention of searching through the house and finding the guy, I think he was clearing the open area. The guy is standing right around the blind spot of the corner wielding two big knives which are exceptionally deadly in close combat, he's vocally unresponsive and starts coming at the officer with the knives.

It's easy to look back in hindsight and see that the guy was too chicken shit to kill himself so he forced the cop to kill him instead, but for all the cop knew the guy hated cops and would have been more than happy to take one out before he went.

I think all of it was justified, clearing the main entry area, giving him repeated orders to drop the knives, and firing five times. If the guy had not come towards the cop I would not feel the same way.

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The guy was DEFINITELY far enough away distance-wise from the cop, that only one shot was necessary.

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