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0toxic0
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Grovesk8ter
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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
#1935239 - 09/20/03 10:55 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope, xept rahzel, hees cool, not really rap. I prefere something with "music" in it. Anyone can rap to a beat. It takes REAL talent to write music. At least good music.
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Jurassic 5 I doubt you'll be dissapointed
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Re: rap music [Re: ekomstop]
#1935375 - 09/20/03 12:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya, i cant belive i forgot. Jurrasic 5 is some dope shit. Actually all underground is good!
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yup jurrasic 5 for starters. K'os is another good one he actually raps about very spirtual things cosmic stuff. actually ive only heard one song of his but it had all those things lots of political stuff.
youre blind from watching that garbage K'os
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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
#1935513 - 09/20/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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(Cue a flood of "Listen to Jurassic 5, 'cause they don't talk about guns" responses from a bunch of people who don't actually like hip-hop and also hate fun.)
Twenty tracks I love right now:
20. G-Unit - 'Clue N 50' 19. UGK - 'Dirty Money' 18. Pastor Troy - 'This Tha City' 17. Talib Kweli ft. Busta and Jay-Z - 'Get By (Remix)' 16. Sharkie Major - 'This Ain't a Game' 15. 50 Cent ft. Bun B - 'As the World Turns' 14. Roscoe P. Coldchain - 'Mask N Glove Style' 13. Styles ft. M.O.P. - 'Ya'll Don't Wanna' 12. Mack 10 - 'Mathematics' 11. Jin - 'Asian Girls' 10. 50 Cent - '50 Shot Ya' 9. Freeway ft. Nate Dogg - 'All My Life' 8. M.O.P. ft. Lord Have Mercy - 'Home Sweet Home' 7. ESG and Slim Thug - 'I'm the Boss' 6. T.I. - '24s' 5. Three Six Mafia ft. Lil Flip - 'Rainbow Colors' 4. Ja Rule, Ashanti, Vita, Charli Baltimore - 'Down 4 U' 3. Jay-Z - 'Only a Customer' 2. Nas - 'Purple' 1. David Banner ft. Bonecrusher and Pastor Troy - 'Fuck 'Em'
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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
#1935589 - 09/20/03 01:49 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just dont like rap music at all. i used to like it a bit but i absolutely hate it. the only decent rap is like DEL or gangstarr. but i dont even listen to rap much so who cares
go iron maiden!!!!!
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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
#1935674 - 09/20/03 02:30 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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jedi mind tricks, swollen members.. altho technically i think jedi is hip-hop.. but it is guaranteed to blow your mind, or your money back..
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Re: rap music [Re: starseed]
#1936202 - 09/20/03 06:40 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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yea i hate most rap,k os and DEL r good tho but everything that bivalve mentioned i hate esp 50 cent! fuck him!
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Re: rap music [Re: 0toxic0]
#1936644 - 09/20/03 10:59 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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ever heard Outkast? you might like them... i always tell people to listen to Kool Keith (AKA Dr. Octagon, Dr. Doom, Black Elvis) mainly because he's unlike any other rapper. check out Del the Funky Homosapien and Gang Starr as shr00m said.. Dead Prez is great IMO... also Mr. Lif. Check out Aceyalone for sure, i think you'll really like him. good luck in your search
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Re: rap music [Re: Clean]
#1936645 - 09/20/03 11:00 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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don't forget De La Soul's 3 Feet high and Rising - a must listen for anyone who wants to experience "good rap".
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Respond:
The best rap music is the kind that doesn't make me feel guilty about being middle class or put me in touch with the middle of my body.
This statement describes my feelings about rap music: a) very accurately b) somewhat accurately.
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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
#1937145 - 09/21/03 02:37 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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mos def/talib kweli, quasimoto, declaime, cunninlynguists, ugly duckling, souls of mischief, roots manuva, tommy tee, rahzel, cypress hill
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Quote:
Actually all underground is good!
So was 50 Cent good a year ago, but not good now?
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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
#1938652 - 09/21/03 07:16 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
bivalve said:
Twenty tracks I love right now:
20. G-Unit - 'Clue N 50'
16. Sharkie Major - 'This Ain't a Game' 15. 50 Cent ft. Bun B - 'As the World Turns' 11. Jin - 'Asian Girls' 10. 50 Cent - '50 Shot Ya'
yea, all those songs suck...
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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
#1938813 - 09/21/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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You've heard 'This Ain't a Game'? I'd like to hear your thoughts on it. Why don't you like it?
He's probably the best UK garage MC I've ever heard. (If you can even call it garage now! It's not even garage rap, really. But, whatever they call it.) The beat sounds kind of like the build-up parts in 'One Mic' and it's got a new kind of rainy, sad, Nas-y New York feeling that I've never heard in stuff from London.
I hated a lot of the Dizzee Rascal album totally because of the production. It's bad but I'd love to hear him over more hip-hop beats like 'This Ain't a Game.' (There's a mixtape track where he does a freestyle on the 'What We Do' beat but I can't find it anywhere!)
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Re: rap music [Re: bivalve]
#1939041 - 09/21/03 09:42 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmm, you did not flame me...
I actually mistook the song, but I have heard sharkie major before. For me it was at the level of "oh yea, he can rap" but nothing I was really into. For me, rap has to sound new, becuase it (almost always) is musically simple, so people that do something fresh and try to have their own sound are the ones who stand out to me... This results in alot of people hating my tastes in rap, becuase my interests dont follow any kind of logic in terms of "type" as in "oh, I like underground rap becuase it makes my feel cool and edgy, but I really prefer linkin park" or whatever...
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Re: rap music [Re: domite]
#1939297 - 09/21/03 11:26 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you think the mainstream has the freshness right now or not?
A lot of more experimental underground stuff, like, stuff beyond just the Atmosphere/Slug/Aesop Rock stuff, the really noisy, bizarre stuff. Like, um, Boom Bip, maybe. It sounds experimental but all of the funny-sound-ness is just being stolen from IDM and it's hip-hop because someone mumbled stuff over it. And it's unpleasant to listen to and you can't dance to it.
On another thread I said I liked mainstream hip-hop because of innovation + when I listen to it and enjoy it I know that lots of other people are getting enjoyment from it + the actual emotion thing. I think I picked 'Grindin'' as the example of that, all three things.
I could find songs that sound weirder and more musically complex than 'Down 4 U' but there are no underground rap songs that have the same beauty. There's no Ashanti! There's no psychedelic, wavy, melancholy Irv Gotti production!
I'm not even making a point!
I think my point is that freshness isn't everything and Ashanti is awesome and moves me. And David Banner and Pastor Troy freak me out, so bombast can trump freshness, too.
I was just listing songs I liked, not songs that I thought were some special thing, I guess.
And I think I had a point that was like, There are good kinds of experimentation and bad and something can sound fresh but bad but freshness plus the other things mainstream rap has equals it's good.
None of the points are very clear.
Make a list of twenty tracks you love right now.
I know you like 'Hey Ya'! I was going to put that on my list.
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