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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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JoieDeVivre said:
There is no such thing as "basic human nature" and your idea of "true human desires" do not line up with everyone else. You make the false assumption that you know everyone else's true motivations based on some things you've seen on TV and in movies about how women love to be disrespected and need some "bad boy" aspects in a relationship to be happy and interested.

Women who end up in abusive relationships usually have severe self esteem issues. Are you seriously suggesting they do that because all women deeply desire to be abused? :wtf:

No women I know actually reject "nice guys" usually guys who are assholes would rather go with the assumption that they really are "nice guys" and women must just like to be abused rather than critically thinking about how their behavior is not actually "nice".


"you make the false assumption...based on some things you're seen on TV and in the movies."

You see, this above statement is why many around here find you arrogant and disrespectful, to pull out the media has clouded your perception of the world is extremely insulting to people.

I am twice your age, I have seen many more relationships progress throughout the years, I have seen tons of marriages, divorces, restraining orders, abusive relationships, ect. 

This has nothing to with hollywood, it's called real life experiences, I am just stating what I have witnessed, nothing more. Can a healthy relationship based on mutual respect and availability exist and function long term?  Absolutely, I have seen it many times. Does it work for everyone? Absolutely not.

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: qman] * 2
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I think it's incredibly arrogant of you to pull the age card as if that gives your opinion more weight. Do you realize that there are millions of people who, at your age and with your exact same life experience, still would vehemently disagree with what you are saying? We disagree because we have different life experiences, the number doesn't matter because it's not like automatically anyone who had the same number of life experiences as you would agree. Your perspective on these life experiences are also incredibly different than how many other people would perceive them.

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You see, this above statement is why many around here find you arrogant and disrespectful, to pull out the media has clouded your perception of the world is extremely insulting to people.


The only reason I mentioned that is because you keep talking about "bad boys" which is a media trope. I don't see how pointing that out is any less insulting than you insinuating I'm less experienced than you because of my age. In reality, you know little to nothing about my life experiences and age has a very low correlation to what one person may have experience in their life. I know plenty of people my age who have lived really easy lives coasting through simple situations that haven't had to deal with the plethora of horribly negative life experiences that I've had to go through. I also know of plenty people much older than me who have had similarly simple lives with a large lack of diversity of experience. I would never say that to someone to discredit their opinion though, I think that's much more arrogant and presumptive than to realistically point out the way the media influences our assumptions about other people and their motivations.


You also seemed to be implying that women actually deeply desire to be abused, controlled and disrespected which is why they end up in abusive relationships and/or with assholes. I'm not saying I'm right or that you're wrong in all cases, I just think to simplify the issue down to something about women I think that's a vast oversimplification that isn't based in anything substantial. 

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Can a healthy relationship based on mutual respect and availability exist and function long term?  Absolutely, I have seen it many times. Does it work for everyone? Absolutely not.


A healthy relationship based on mutal respect does work for everyone, but it has to actually be healthy which requires respect and communication. When a relationship doesn't work, one or both of the partners aren't actually interacting in a way that is healthy and mutually respectful. If a woman, for example, leaves a healthy relationship because her partner is "too nice" then you clearly she has some psychological issues or is lying about what she really means by "too nice".

Note, being "too nice" is not the same thing as not standing up for yourself. A relationship where one partner is constantly using the other partner who feels completely unfulfilled and distraught is not a healthy relationship.


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Re: I think we should see other people *DELETED* [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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Post deleted by JoieDeVivre

Reason for deletion: superfluous



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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 9
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How about we get back to op joie everything is not about you despite what your mother and grade school  teacher told you.



But give her no quarter op , Dont take her back be a dick dont be a push over :awesomenod:


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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
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nicechrisman said:
Mostly because most "nice guys" are too much of pussies to just come out with it and ask them out. Too busy beating around the bush with friendship and stuff. Once they identify you as a friend, it's hard to break out of that role. Not to say partners shouldn't be friends, but I think to get to the no pants dance, you gotta maintain a certain degree of sexual tension. Once a relationship is established, then developing a friendship is great. It's just a totally different type of friendship.


Most of my relationships have started out with a friendship, so this doesnt apply to everyone. I guess its more of an issue of what kind of person you are.

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: trekie] * 10
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Everytime I see one of Joies posts this is all I can think of




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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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LOL cept hawt with non-animal tested lip gloss.

:bashful:

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:



:awedisgust:

I like my ladies clean and bathed.

Not tangled up and dirty.


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Patlal]
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Yeah when a women has more body hair then you and worse BO  :justnotright:


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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: trekie]
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This calls for a signature "Pump and Dump" if you know what I mean.

Ga-ga talk her into one last smash, then tell her thanks and it should hold you over until the next chick this coming weekend. Then tell her to get the fuck out.


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Everytime I see one of Joies posts this is all I can think of






:lol: so awesome!

Shes essentially clueless imo


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Masked]
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:lol:

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Masked] * 2
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jesus why all the hate on joie she has something well rounded to say instead of promoting some insant gratification quick-fix bullshit that won't help anybody out in the long term and will make everyone feel bad whether they try to convince themselves otherwise or not

i guess she brings too much to the table for ya'll to handle


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"I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago
"you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard
"The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist
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Edited by Sheekle (06/25/13 06:06 PM)

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Sheekle] * 4
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Its not what she says its the way she says it. Condescension and disrespect arnt things that net friendly responses.

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Its not what she says its the way she says it. Condescension and disrespect arnt things that net friendly responses.


i don't think she said anything that somebody who isn't overly defensive would find offense


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"Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods
"I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago
"you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard
"The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist
"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
"or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees

R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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there is nothing but condescension on this forum.

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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Brain Fart]
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Brain Fart said:
smoke a bowl and think about it bro. It aint that bad. plenty of fish in the sea. An everything happens for a reason ya kno?:hug:


:whathesaid:


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Sheekle] * 5
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Well IMO it's pretty rude to turn someone's thread about heartbreak into your own personal platform, which is what she did here.


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Re: I think we should see other people *DELETED* [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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:picdidnthappen:


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Re: I think we should see other people [Re: Dark_Star] * 1
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Dark_Star said:
Well IMO it's pretty rude to turn someone's thread about heartbreak into your own personal platform, which is what she did here.


but is that actually how it went, or was it only an illusion that made it seem that way? :strokebeard:


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"Ur cat died because he hated u" - Koods
"I hope JSB kicks your ass one day." - Vandago
"you are the biggest 'internet guy' I have ever come across"- Jokeshopbeard
"The more I see you post the more I realize you're just this fuckin tie dye loser who trolls the Shroomery 24/7." - Herbologist
"Sheekle you cannot vile the dice of bullshit you have posted on this forum over the years, I like databases" - thelastoneleft
"or maybe i just come from a blood line of superior intelligence" - trees

R.I.P Kelsy, ?/?/?? - 6/11/16

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