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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?

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Buster_Brown said:

The court naturally follow the sentiment of the Goddess and Alpha male.

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FishOilTheKid said:

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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?

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Something about anal sex really turns me off.  And man on man anal sex disgusts me.

I have no problem with gay people I just don't like to imagine the sex between men.

Probably some think its purely wrong.  Or gross due to conditioning.

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zzripz said:

Buster_Brown said:

The court naturally follow the sentiment of the Goddess and Alpha male.

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The Goddess has nothing to do with the alpha male trip! The latter is the patriarchy, and patriarchal culture is always misogynistic, racist, and homophobic.

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zzripz said:

FishOilTheKid said:

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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?

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Something about anal sex really turns me off.  And man on man anal sex disgusts me.

I have no problem with gay people I just don't like to imagine the sex between men.

Probably some think its purely wrong.  Or gross due to conditioning.

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Well it is not ONLY gay people who like and do anal sex.
Yes, I think you are brought up to believe it is wrong. Actually the anus is one of THE most sensitive and thus erotic sexual zones.

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FishOilTheKid said:

I have no problem with women's assholes in fact I had an ex that would ask me to stick a finger in her ass and finger her g spot while sucking and licking her clit.  That always went well.  But things are dirty not like dirt but bacteria and the like.  Then what...??  Ass to mouth??  How the hell?

I have this hairy ass that I have to shave and it just doesn't feel sexual for a woman to be down there trying to pleasure me there.  Perhaps its an insecurity.

What feels best is her pleasure and hearing it.

Things, when they're honest, like 'don't stop' or 'I'm gonna cum' turn me on the most.

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Ever see dogs deal with each others asses?  They should be dropping like flies then.   I've been going at that nasty habit for about 40 years and I'm still doing well. If you have a healthy immune system and digestive health you will be good to go.

FishOilTheKid said:

Can you orgasm by just prostate stimulation alone?

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zzripz said:

lol, yeah. I have always thought that if guys love their dicks, and we know they do, they could love other ones too

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Sleepwalker said:

Yes, it takes heterosexual encounters to keep the human race going.  However, there will always be an abundance of babies being born with or without homosexuals.  Furthermore, not every heterosexual ends up having kids.  Where do they fall on your moral compass?

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dustinthewind13 said:

The progress is in not being able to reproduce. Duh.

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Icelander said:Given the choice I'd choose to have never  been born. But since I'm here I going to have as much pleasure as possible. And the idea of killing myself is terrifying.  That doesn't mean I enjoy being here overall.

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ConfettiHead said:

I'm not homophobic, I have no problem with what people choose to do with their lives.

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ConfettiHead said:

Heterosexuality has everything that homosexuality has, but with even more benefits. I just don't see why homosexuality would be necessary.

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Necessary?    People are gay because they are attracted to the same sex.  Where does necessity come in?

natzyshroomer said:

Armidillio I am sure there are people who would begin to hyperventilate if they were aware a gay human was around them

Just as an example

I've seen someone with coulrophobia,fear of clowns, drop to their knees in the corner of the room and freak the fuck out until the clown left.

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ConfettiHead said:

I'm not homophobic, I have no problem with what people choose to do with their lives. However, I would like someone to show me how homosexuality is (a) good from the moral sense, and (b) progressive from the evolutionary sense. I just don't see how it benefits the human race in any way other than mere pleasure. Again, I don't have a problem with people and their choices, I would just like to see how homosexuality is a better choice than heterosexuality. I'm open to anything that anybody has to say.

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Buster_Brown said:

Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.

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Armidillo said:

natzyshroomer said:

Armidillio I am sure there are people who would begin to hyperventilate if they were aware a gay human was around them

Just as an example

I've seen someone with coulrophobia,fear of clowns, drop to their knees in the corner of the room and freak the fuck out until the clown left.

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Yes but all clowns are rapists so that's an understandable reaction.

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Buster_Brown said:

Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.

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topdog82 said:

But what creates this bias?

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Buster_Brown said:

Buster_Brown said:

Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.

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topdog82 said:

But what creates this bias?

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Preferences.

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Buster_Brown said:

I think it is community instinct to outlaw as much difficulty as possible in order to achieve a working model of existence within which we can wok and play.

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Buster_Brown said:

Swine and shellfish were outlawed in some communities, I believe, because they eat filth. Anal sex or even public intoxication could be associated with filthy habits.

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topdog82 said:

How come I am able to accept it, but others...cannot?

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kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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Repertoire89 said:

kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.

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kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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The social construction of male homosexuality

The modern concept of male homosexuality, or "gay," as the likely social construction Michel Foucault and others have emphasized it to be, has embodied the belief of a homosexual / heterosexual binary. This belief has resulted in great efforts by many to eliminate bisexuality from the world view. Bisexuality, however, may be the factual "norm" Freud and others believed to be true. The primary author of this paper experienced this fact growing up in a community where male adolescent activity was the rule, not the exception, resulting in a different perception of homosexual male realities. It is argued that the same difference in perception would apply for Ancient Greek males if they had been presented the modern concept of "gay identity" defined on the basis or erotic love and/or sexual attraction, and the associated likelihood of enjoying same-sex sexual activities.

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Repertoire89 said:

kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.

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topdog82 said:

Repertoire89 said:

kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.

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I dont understand what role it could possibly play?

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Repertoire89 said:

topdog82 said:

Repertoire89 said:

kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.

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I dont understand what role it could possibly play?

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There's the 'Gay Uncle Hypothesis' for starters. Its a matter of fact that homosexuality exists in nature beyond the human race, any lack of clear definition as to why it exists comes from cultural bias.

It doesn't seem like a big mystery to me though, I'm straight and won't be having any kids. That puts me in a position of greater security and benefits my family, if I ever decided to I could also adopt. By removing myself from the reproductive cycle I become more of a benefit to society.

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zzripz said:

kakashi68 said:

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.

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You have typically sucked in the official homophobic propaganda which DIVDES the 'homosexual' from the 'heterosexual', and makes out that the former is inferior and latter is superior. But these are just divisory tactics. It is not as black and white as that. Read this article:

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The social construction of male homosexuality

The modern concept of male homosexuality, or "gay," as the likely social construction Michel Foucault and others have emphasized it to be, has embodied the belief of a homosexual / heterosexual binary. This belief has resulted in great efforts by many to eliminate bisexuality from the world view. Bisexuality, however, may be the factual "norm" Freud and others believed to be true. The primary author of this paper experienced this fact growing up in a community where male adolescent activity was the rule, not the exception, resulting in a different perception of homosexual male realities. It is argued that the same difference in perception would apply for Ancient Greek males if they had been presented the modern concept of "gay identity" defined on the basis or erotic love and/or sexual attraction, and the associated likelihood of enjoying same-sex sexual activities.

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topdog82 said:

out of pure curiosity, has there ever been a polytheistic god of any sort that was bi? or gay?

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As far as I know only pan.

topdog82 said:

out of pure curiosity, has there ever been a polytheistic god of any sort that was bi? or gay?

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see Apollo and Hyacinth - World History of Gay Love Comments on the Concepts of Gay and Homosexual:

The book The Gay Greek Myths restores the homosexual and homoerotic content of the Greek myths. But Gay Greek Myths, indeed "gay mythology" in general, is a misnomer. "Gay" as a sexual identity is a recent development, emerging only in the 20th Century and our idea of what it means to be gay or a homosexual has largely been influenced by recent gay activism and the emergence of gay rights on the cultural landscape. In the time of the Greeks there was no such identity as gay - or straight - and they did not compartmentalize their sexuality into homosexual and heterosexual. Their homosexual passions were part of their erotic expression as sexual beings. They would not have considered their love for boys as gay or homosexual, as separate from other sexual expressions, and the worth of the relationship was judged not by the gender of the person one loved, but by its results. Nevertheless, throughout this site you will see the use of the words gay, homosexual and homosexuality when referring to ancient practices. Indeed this very section is titled "Homosexual Greek Myths." This is done for practical purposes, so we can easily describe the sexual relations of the ancients with familiar vocabulary. Things, however, were much more complex then the words might indicate.

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Dionysos was bisexual~~Gay Myths: Dionysus / Bacchus Dionysus and satyr, Roman copy of a Greek statue circa 200 AD, from the excavations of the Palazzo Mattei a Quattro Fontane.[/caption]Dionysus was the god of wine, ecstasy, poetry, and love.

He was often described as womanly and he was lovers to both Adonis, the male god of beauty and desire, and the two-sexed Hermaphrodite.

In Rome he was transformed into Bacchus, god of drunkenness and orgies, an older and less sensitive character.

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