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Whats up with homophobia?
    #18260079 - 05/13/13 10:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)



Never really thought about how actually fucked up homophobia was

Honestly, if I was gay, I would be scared as shit to come out


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18260096 - 05/13/13 10:24 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?

Also, I think pop culture puts emphasis on the alpha males. And alpha males love to fuck hella bitches...ie pop music always sings about drinking and having heterosexual intercourse


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18262014 - 05/14/13 05:07 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

The court naturally follow the sentiment of the Goddess and Alpha male.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18262678 - 05/14/13 09:56 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?




Something about anal sex really turns me off.  And man on man anal sex disgusts me.

I have no problem with gay people I just don't like to imagine the sex between men.

Probably some think its purely wrong.  Or gross due to conditioning.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18262772 - 05/14/13 10:21 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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The court naturally follow the sentiment of the Goddess and Alpha male.





The Goddess has nothing to do with the alpha male trip! The latter is the patriarchy, and patriarchal culture is always misogynistic, racist, and homophobic.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #18262779 - 05/14/13 10:23 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?




Something about anal sex really turns me off.  And man on man anal sex disgusts me.

I have no problem with gay people I just don't like to imagine the sex between men.

Probably some think its purely wrong.  Or gross due to conditioning.




Well it is not ONLY gay people who like and do anal sex.
Yes, I think you are brought up to believe it is wrong. Actually the anus is one of THE most sensitive and thus erotic sexual zones.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
    #18262798 - 05/14/13 10:29 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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The court naturally follow the sentiment of the Goddess and Alpha male.





The Goddess has nothing to do with the alpha male trip! The latter is the patriarchy, and patriarchal culture is always misogynistic, racist, and homophobic.




That maybe an attempt at self-absolution given that Vishnu's power is from Chandi-Maya.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
    #18262803 - 05/14/13 10:31 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I know this.
I actually grew up questioning my sexuality.

When you say that I believe you as I've experienced certain things but to thrust a penis in and out...??

I could go for prostate stimulation with a finger or some licking.

I have an issue with gay man sex not the people.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18263676 - 05/14/13 02:56 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I learned to enjoy anal play as a nice variation.  A nice clean ass hole can be a major turn on for me.  Female only though. I'm just not attracted to men.  I have had in the past some close gay friends and as people they are about like everyone else.  They tend to be very sex focused ime.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Icelander]
    #18263795 - 05/14/13 03:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I have no problem with women's assholes in fact I had an ex that would ask me to stick a finger in her ass and finger her g spot while sucking and licking her clit.  That always went well.  But things are dirty not like dirt but bacteria and the like.  Then what...??  Ass to mouth??  How the hell?

I have this hairy ass that I have to shave and it just doesn't feel sexual for a woman to be down there trying to pleasure me there.  Perhaps its an insecurity.

What feels best is her pleasure and hearing it.

Things, when they're honest, like 'don't stop' or 'I'm gonna cum' turn me on the most.:awesomenod:


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
    #18263926 - 05/14/13 03:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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And why is it that homophobia is so widespread?




Something about anal sex really turns me off.  And man on man anal sex disgusts me.

I have no problem with gay people I just don't like to imagine the sex between men.

Probably some think its purely wrong.  Or gross due to conditioning.




Well it is not ONLY gay people who like and do anal sex.
Yes, I think you are brought up to believe it is wrong. Actually the anus is one of THE most sensitive and thus erotic sexual zones.




Yup. Personally i prefer the orgasm my prostate makes. And it can last for a while (harder to achieve though). And it's even healthy to massage it.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: dustinthewind13]
    #18263935 - 05/14/13 04:00 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Can you orgasm by just prostate stimulation alone?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #18263946 - 05/14/13 04:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

A lot of folks haven't realized that nearly everyone is bisexual. A lot of the animal kingdom is bisexual and humans are a part of that.

For those that think they're not (the males anyway), if someone put a gun to your head and gave you the choice between kissing Brad Pitt or John Goodman, most would kiss Brad Pitt. Why? John Goodman is about as attractive as Aunt Jemima and that distinction is made. It may not be your preference and you're unlikely to get super stoked about it, but the truth remains that you find one more visually pleasing.

Those that opt to die rather than to partake in a meaningless kiss can't bare the shame of telling their friends about how much they like cock. It's really hard to think of an example of hatred that isn't self-hatred if it exists.



Don't be like this guy and you'll have learned a valueable lesson.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18263950 - 05/14/13 04:04 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I have no problem with women's assholes in fact I had an ex that would ask me to stick a finger in her ass and finger her g spot while sucking and licking her clit.  That always went well.  But things are dirty not like dirt but bacteria and the like.  Then what...??  Ass to mouth??  How the hell?

I have this hairy ass that I have to shave and it just doesn't feel sexual for a woman to be down there trying to pleasure me there.  Perhaps its an insecurity.

What feels best is her pleasure and hearing it.

Things, when they're honest, like 'don't stop' or 'I'm gonna cum' turn me on the most.:awesomenod:




Ever see dogs deal with each others asses?  They should be dropping like flies then. :lol:  I've been going at that nasty habit for about 40 years and I'm still doing well. :shrug: If you have a healthy immune system and digestive health you will be good to go.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Ara16w]
    #18263960 - 05/14/13 04:06 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

there may well be truth to what you say.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Ara16w]
    #18263962 - 05/14/13 04:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

lol, yeah. I have always thought that if guys love their dicks, and we know they do, they could love other ones too


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #18263963 - 05/14/13 04:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Can you orgasm by just prostate stimulation alone?




Don't know? I think so. I do know that masturbating while massaging will create a much stronger normal orgasm.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
    #18264015 - 05/14/13 04:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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lol, yeah. I have always thought that if guys love their dicks, and we know they do, they could love other ones too




Probably. How much porn do we honestly watch that doesn't have a dick in it? You're given the choice between a solo girl or a girl and a dude and we often want both. "Just pussy?! No thank you. It's not a lifestyle choice that I intend to make." We look at dicks all the time in a subtle way.

I'm still pretty hung up at the thought of kissing John Goodman though lol. If he moves a couple feet then that's the equivalent of a heavy work out for a man of his size so he's breathing heavily. By the time he locks eyes with you you've become completely aware that you've made a bad call.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Ara16w]
    #18264581 - 05/14/13 06:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Don't get me wrong. I am all for open sexuality, and free love etc.

But hearing of anal play... :woah:

I didn't know straight guys could even get pleasure from that. Strange that such an erotic zone is so sensitive yet a part of the digestive system...

Anyways, in psych the other day we learned that 95% of men and women were homosexual in some sense, but on a subconcious level

I am thinking that everybody is a tad homo and is subconciously tries to refute it by being against gays...

Just an idea


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #18264623 - 05/14/13 06:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18264660 - 05/14/13 06:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not homophobic, I have no problem with what people choose to do with their lives. However, I would like someone to show me how homosexuality is (a) good from the moral sense, and (b) progressive from the evolutionary sense. I just don't see how it benefits the human race in any way other than mere pleasure. Again, I don't have a problem with people and their choices, I would just like to see how homosexuality is a better choice than heterosexuality. I'm open to anything that anybody has to say.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead] * 1
    #18264688 - 05/14/13 07:06 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

How do your heterosexual relationships benefit the human race?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18264922 - 05/14/13 07:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I can make more humans, thus life goes on.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead] * 1
    #18265119 - 05/14/13 08:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Does making more humans necessarily benefit humanity.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18265167 - 05/14/13 08:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

No, making more humans doesn't necessarily benefit humanity in all senses of the word "benefit". However, there would be no homosexual humans to enjoy erotic pleasure if heterosexuals didn't create them in the first place. Therefore, homosexuality needs heterosexuality in order for it to exist. It depends on heterosexuality in order for it to survive. Thus heterosexuality reigns.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead] * 1
    #18265211 - 05/14/13 08:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, it takes heterosexual encounters to keep the human race going.  However, there will always be an abundance of babies being born with or without homosexuals.  Furthermore, not every heterosexual ends up having kids.  Where do they fall on your moral compass?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18265234 - 05/14/13 08:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes, it takes heterosexual encounters to keep the human race going.  However, there will always be an abundance of babies being born with or without homosexuals.  Furthermore, not every heterosexual ends up having kids.  Where do they fall on your moral compass?




There's that fag talk again.



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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18266846 - 05/15/13 02:54 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

(a) good from the moral sense

It makes my G spot tickle

(b) progressive from the evolutionary sense.

The progress is in not being able to reproduce. Duh.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: dustinthewind13]
    #18268290 - 05/15/13 01:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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The progress is in not being able to reproduce. Duh.




If your parents thought that then you wouldn't be here. Oh the irony.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18268402 - 05/15/13 01:58 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Who said he wanted to be born?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Icelander]
    #18268600 - 05/15/13 02:49 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe he didn't want to be born. But if you truly wished to not be born, then you wouldn't go out seeking the pleasures of the world. The fact that one is indulging in the pleasures of the world shows that one is, at the very least, okay with his current situation. If you truly didn't want to be here then you would kill yourself. But we don't see him doing that, we see him playing around and having fun. Therefore he must be happy to be here. So how did his happiness come to life? Through the natural life process of heterosexuality.

He must have some sense of gratitude for being given this glorious opportunity...the opportunity to experience pleasure through his anus. And that gratitude must be directed towards heterosexuals because they helped make his pleasurable opportunity possible. Yet he rejects this natural way of life in favor of a regressive philosophy. He denies the very thing that got him here. It's not that his philosophy is necessarily "right" or "wrong", it's just often one that is followed by feelings of hate rather than gratitude. I may be generalizing here, and I apologize if I've made any incorrect judgments, but I just call it how I see it. I have personally gotten to know a lot of gay people and most of the time they have some deep-seeded feelings of hate underneath it all.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead] * 1
    #18268935 - 05/15/13 04:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

But if you truly wished to not be born, then you wouldn't go out seeking the pleasures of the world. The fact that one is indulging in the pleasures of the world shows that one is, at the very least, okay with his current situation. If you truly didn't want to be here then you would kill yourself.

Nonsense imo.  Just because you don't want to be alive doesn't mean you do nothing and have you never heard of the fear of death? 

Given the choice I'd choose to have never  been born. But since I'm here I going to have as much pleasure as possible. And the idea of killing myself is terrifying.  That doesn't mean I enjoy being here overall.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Icelander]
    #18269373 - 05/15/13 05:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:Given the choice I'd choose to have never  been born. But since I'm here I going to have as much pleasure as possible. And the idea of killing myself is terrifying.  That doesn't mean I enjoy being here overall.




But you can enjoy being here, you just have to open your eyes first.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18269408 - 05/15/13 05:35 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not homophobic, I have no problem with what people choose to do with their lives.





...goes on to argue that being a homosexual is somehow a less worthy lifestyle.

I really am not grasping your point man.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18269498 - 05/15/13 05:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

It's not less worthy, it's just unnecessary. You can have sex with women and stick it in their vagina or asshole. If you want something in your asshole, you can stick a dildo in there or have a woman finger your asshole. At the same time you can make more humans and you will be accepted by all of society, nobody will frown upon you. Heterosexuality has everything that homosexuality has, but with even more benefits. I just don't see why homosexuality would be necessary. Then again I'm not homosexual so I guess I wouldn't understand.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18269851 - 05/15/13 06:50 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not watching heter porn to watch the guys dick.. I'm imagining that I am the one doing the fucking.

You have it wrong sex is psychological, emotional, and physical. So to truly enjoy sex to its fullest potential you would need let down your inhibitions
I've opened my doors personally but I am not gay nor bi and I wouldn't ever want to be with a man.

Choosing between Brad Pitt and Goodman really? When a male looks at an attractive female, human instincts kick in; in most cases the alpha male attempting to prove himself in some elaborate dance of words and movement All  you have really stated  is that the majority of most men find bodies who are fit which to say is wrong
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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: natzyshroomer] * 1
    #18270322 - 05/15/13 08:25 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

You bring up a valid point, but I think that there are a lot of orphans that need a home. If we were at the point where our entire race was homosexual as a majority, then we would have problems. But until that is a problem, I don't care

I mean to the point where more than 50% of people were gay, then we would have problems continuing to exist and sustain ourselves


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18270505 - 05/15/13 09:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I hope they offer hump shops lesbian couples come in and ride the few straight men for a possible spread of humanity maybe not that could get rough


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18270888 - 05/15/13 10:23 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Heterosexuality has everything that homosexuality has, but with even more benefits. I just don't see why homosexuality would be necessary.




Necessary?  :facepalm:  People are gay because they are attracted to the same sex.  Where does necessity come in?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #18270913 - 05/15/13 10:30 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

he's being intentionally daft, because in his mind, he already know's he's "right".

nevermind the troll.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18273089 - 05/16/13 10:36 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

The word homophobia is what we should talk about.
Is anyone legitimately scared of gays?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Armidillo]
    #18273199 - 05/16/13 11:17 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Armidillio I am sure there are people who would begin to hyperventilate if they were aware a gay human was around them

Just as an example

I've seen someone with coulrophobia,fear of clowns, drop to their knees in the corner of the room and freak the fuck out until the clown left.


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    #18273217 - 05/16/13 11:23 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Armidillio I am sure there are people who would begin to hyperventilate if they were aware a gay human was around them

Just as an example

I've seen someone with coulrophobia,fear of clowns, drop to their knees in the corner of the room and freak the fuck out until the clown left.



Yes but all clowns are rapists so that's an understandable reaction.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Armidillo]
    #18275820 - 05/16/13 10:29 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

And so are gays it's the nature of the beast :tongue:


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    #18276039 - 05/16/13 11:13 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. More or less all rapists are gay. And pretty much every other bad thing possible.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18276709 - 05/17/13 01:44 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not homophobic, I have no problem with what people choose to do with their lives. However, I would like someone to show me how homosexuality is (a) good from the moral sense, and (b) progressive from the evolutionary sense. I just don't see how it benefits the human race in any way other than mere pleasure. Again, I don't have a problem with people and their choices, I would just like to see how homosexuality is a better choice than heterosexuality. I'm open to anything that anybody has to say.




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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18278977 - 05/17/13 03:57 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

The gays I know are repelled by female flesh.  Makes choosing pretty easy wouldn't you say?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18282347 - 05/18/13 07:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Christianity is basically forcing all men to be spiritually homosexual. This is why I have greater respect for true mythologies... Greek/Norse/Celtic and the gnostic Sophia. Homosexuality is a byproduct of generations of men making love to their God The Father and no imagination for a natural Goddess. Religious spiritually is basically having continuous non physical sex. It is actually cool to be ecstatic on the AllFather, but where the institutions have restricted the imagination, connective wisdom has been retarded. Nevermind, perhaps I'll live long enough to experience the joys of being the late bloomer.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #18282759 - 05/18/13 10:58 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.


Edited by Buster_Brown (05/18/13 11:35 AM)


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18283066 - 05/18/13 12:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.



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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Armidillo]
    #18283079 - 05/18/13 12:55 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Armidillio I am sure there are people who would begin to hyperventilate if they were aware a gay human was around them

Just as an example

I've seen someone with coulrophobia,fear of clowns, drop to their knees in the corner of the room and freak the fuck out until the clown left.



Yes but all clowns are rapists so that's an understandable reaction.



LOLLL

I feel you on the clowns being rapists part. But yes. I can see it in some people. In high school I was with a gay friend. We tried to go to a party, and the house owner rejected the gay guy saying that he couldn't enter in if he was with us

Clearly scared of something. Why do lesbians not get shit? People seem to have a problem speicifcally with gay men. And I think that this is due to anal sex sounding disgusting. I am all for expeirmentation. I dont think I want to anal a man or a woman. But if that turns you on...There is absoltely nothing wrong with that

For fucks sake dude. Ill be open and admit that if a girl has pretty feet that does a lot for me. All of the girls I have dated have had good/pretty feet. I dont want a foot job, but I am pretty sure I have a mild foot fetish of some sort. That sounds disguting, even to me

Anal sex sounds disgsuting. But enjoy it lol. I think dip and cigarettes are disgusting too. I am  not gonna judge you if you use them tho


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18283197 - 05/18/13 01:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.



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But what creates this bias?




Preferences.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18283619 - 05/18/13 03:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Everyone is biased. Universal imposition of bias creates frictions, indubitably.



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But what creates this bias?




Preferences.




So i guess that homophoiba is unfortuantely inherent to humans. Fuck dude...sad idea

How come I am able to accept it, but others (ie in high school everyone picked on the gays. And not even the lesbians) cannot?

But what I mean is what makes gayness such a bad thing?

People don't hate on being black (at least where I am. cali) nearly as much as being gay? What makes the prefernece of homosexuality so much different than race?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18283655 - 05/18/13 03:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I think it is community instinct to outlaw as much difficulty as possible in order to achieve a working model of existence within which we can wok and play.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18283908 - 05/18/13 04:03 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I think it is community instinct to outlaw as much difficulty as possible in order to achieve a working model of existence within which we can wok and play.



DAMN

That might very well be it. A sound hypothesis. Homosexuals tehcnically cant produce kids. That and the fact anal sex so gross. But I c


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18284010 - 05/18/13 04:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Swine and shellfish were outlawed in some communities, I believe, because they eat filth. Anal sex or even public intoxication could be associated with filthy habits.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18284156 - 05/18/13 05:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Swine and shellfish were outlawed in some communities, I believe, because they eat filth. Anal sex or even public intoxication could be associated with filthy habits.



yeah. I guess it is homosexuals are kind of attacked by both directions. Both of those "issues" with homosexuality are what combine to make homophobia so powerful


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18284231 - 05/18/13 05:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

We might conclude that homophobia is predominantly a product of social-networking, in that we merely reflect the values held in common by our social peers.

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How come I am able to accept it, but others...cannot?





Social pressure.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #18286376 - 05/19/13 04:41 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.


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    #18286559 - 05/19/13 06:28 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18286814 - 05/19/13 09:29 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.




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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: kakashi68]
    #18286840 - 05/19/13 09:40 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




You have typically sucked in the official homophobic propaganda which DIVDES the 'homosexual' from the 'heterosexual', and makes out that the former is inferior and latter is superior. But these are just divisory tactics. It is not as black and white as that. Read this article:

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The social construction of male homosexuality

The modern concept of male homosexuality, or "gay," as the likely social construction Michel Foucault and others have emphasized it to be, has embodied the belief of a homosexual / heterosexual binary. This belief has resulted in great efforts by many to eliminate bisexuality from the world view. Bisexuality, however, may be the factual "norm" Freud and others believed to be true. The primary author of this paper experienced this fact growing up in a community where male adolescent activity was the rule, not the exception, resulting in a different perception of homosexual male realities. It is argued that the same difference in perception would apply for Ancient Greek males if they had been presented the modern concept of "gay identity" defined on the basis or erotic love and/or sexual attraction, and the associated likelihood of enjoying same-sex sexual activities.




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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18287768 - 05/19/13 02:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.



I dont understand what role it could possibly play?


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18287780 - 05/19/13 03:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

out of pure curiosity, has there ever been a polytheistic god of any sort that was bi? or gay?


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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.




I dont understand what role it could possibly play?




There's the 'Gay Uncle Hypothesis' for starters. Its a matter of fact that homosexuality exists in nature beyond the human race, any lack of clear definition as to why it exists comes from cultural bias.

It doesn't seem like a big mystery to me though, I'm straight and won't be having any kids. That puts me in a position of greater security and benefits my family, if I ever decided to I could also adopt. By removing myself from the reproductive cycle I become more of a benefit to society.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #18288362 - 05/19/13 05:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




Incorrect, homosexual behavior is exhibited by many animal species and serves sociological / biological purposes. It is not a genetic mistake but a product of evolution.




I dont understand what role it could possibly play?




There's the 'Gay Uncle Hypothesis' for starters. Its a matter of fact that homosexuality exists in nature beyond the human race, any lack of clear definition as to why it exists comes from cultural bias.

It doesn't seem like a big mystery to me though, I'm straight and won't be having any kids. That puts me in a position of greater security and benefits my family, if I ever decided to I could also adopt. By removing myself from the reproductive cycle I become more of a benefit to society.





I have never heard the gay uncle hypothesis?

And yes I agree with you in that lots of species display homosexuality. That only one displays homphobia

But still, I dont see the role that it could play, and disagree with that. I will look it up and get back to u


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
    #18288365 - 05/19/13 05:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Well technically being homosexual(or any other form of sexuality that isnt hetro) means that something went wrong in the DNA whether by mutation or genetically passed on. Now in saying this I see no problem with gay people and there are pretty much the same as the next person. They shouldn't be treated as bad as it is in some places but outside of the western world homophobia is very widespread. Which IMHO would be because its simply against nature and its different to them which invokes the fear response.




You have typically sucked in the official homophobic propaganda which DIVDES the 'homosexual' from the 'heterosexual', and makes out that the former is inferior and latter is superior. But these are just divisory tactics. It is not as black and white as that. Read this article:

Quote:

The social construction of male homosexuality

The modern concept of male homosexuality, or "gay," as the likely social construction Michel Foucault and others have emphasized it to be, has embodied the belief of a homosexual / heterosexual binary. This belief has resulted in great efforts by many to eliminate bisexuality from the world view. Bisexuality, however, may be the factual "norm" Freud and others believed to be true. The primary author of this paper experienced this fact growing up in a community where male adolescent activity was the rule, not the exception, resulting in a different perception of homosexual male realities. It is argued that the same difference in perception would apply for Ancient Greek males if they had been presented the modern concept of "gay identity" defined on the basis or erotic love and/or sexual attraction, and the associated likelihood of enjoying same-sex sexual activities.







I will read this later. That looks like a great article. And it solidifies my theory that there arent two extremes. We are all just variants of bisexuality


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: topdog82]
    #18289004 - 05/19/13 08:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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out of pure curiosity, has there ever been a polytheistic god of any sort that was bi? or gay?




As far as I know only pan.



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out of pure curiosity, has there ever been a polytheistic god of any sort that was bi? or gay?



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see Apollo and Hyacinth - World History of Gay Love Comments on the Concepts of Gay and Homosexual:

The book The Gay Greek Myths restores the homosexual and homoerotic content of the Greek myths. But Gay Greek Myths, indeed "gay mythology" in general, is a misnomer. "Gay" as a sexual identity is a recent development, emerging only in the 20th Century and our idea of what it means to be gay or a homosexual has largely been influenced by recent gay activism and the emergence of gay rights on the cultural landscape. In the time of the Greeks there was no such identity as gay - or straight - and they did not compartmentalize their sexuality into homosexual and heterosexual. Their homosexual passions were part of their erotic expression as sexual beings. They would not have considered their love for boys as gay or homosexual, as separate from other sexual expressions, and the worth of the relationship was judged not by the gender of the person one loved, but by its results. Nevertheless, throughout this site you will see the use of the words gay, homosexual and homosexuality when referring to ancient practices. Indeed this very section is titled "Homosexual Greek Myths." This is done for practical purposes, so we can easily describe the sexual relations of the ancients with familiar vocabulary. Things, however, were much more complex then the words might indicate.



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Dionysos was bisexual~~Gay Myths: Dionysus / Bacchus Dionysus and satyr, Roman copy of a Greek statue circa 200 AD, from the excavations of the Palazzo Mattei a Quattro Fontane.[/caption]Dionysus was the god of wine, ecstasy, poetry, and love.

He was often described as womanly and he was lovers to both Adonis, the male god of beauty and desire, and the two-sexed Hermaphrodite.

In Rome he was transformed into Bacchus, god of drunkenness and orgies, an older and less sensitive character.






Also a crucial thing to understand. Dionysos~~~ when dis-cover-ing the root meaning of that mythical god's name, it is actually referring to psychedelic vegetation! The roots of mythology itself is really about psychedelic experience and creative and spiritual inspiration. Understand that the rigid roles we are made to believe we are can be totally dissolved when in psychedelically inspired ecstasy, and then you may very well understand and explore your bisexual nature. It doesn't even have to be full on sex, but sensual erotic orgasmic interrelationship with others and nature also.


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Re: Whats up with homophobia? [Re: zzripz]
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I wouldn't say I'm gay, but I do get pretty bored when that secret dildo is around.


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i just wanted to make it 70 lol


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