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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Quetzalcohuatl]
    #10244816 - 04/27/09 08:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hating Bush is as bad as hating gays.  If people would take a second and give it a little thought, You would find that homosexuals are psychologically damaged. An overwhelming percent were molested and abused as children, are alcoholics/addicts, serious behaviour problems, molest and abuse others usually children, ...  .  It is natures way to have male and female, and to have these opposites attract.  It is abnormal to have sexual contact with the same sex.  Don't confuse equal rights, and a serious psychological problem.  Except for marriage there is no reason to restrict the rights of homosexuals.  By Kicking them to the curb and ignoring their needs, we isolate them and refuse to give them the help they need.  This is a very emotionally charged subject, and I am in no way suggesting any prejudice is justified.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Cameron]
    #10244825 - 04/27/09 08:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i saw a commercial the other day...where some kid says "that's so gay"

and some black comedian says something like "do you know what you're saying when you use the word gay like that?"

i've got to admit i've used the term "gay" to mean other things...and i know it's not PC.....but....come on....words are just words.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10244832 - 04/27/09 08:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Hating Bush is as bad as hating gays.




No.

Hating a group of people for broad reasons not applicable to most of them is not the same as hating a single individual whose behavior can be assigned solely to them.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10244840 - 04/27/09 08:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Also, homosexuality is no longer recognized as a mental defect.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10244845 - 04/27/09 08:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Living in the SF Bay Area, hating gays here is almost sacrilege. :sadyes:


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Redstorm]
    #10244852 - 04/27/09 08:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Redstorm said:
Also, homosexuality is no longer recognized as a mental defect.



Next to go from the DSM is bondage! :awesome:

:bondage:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10244866 - 04/27/09 09:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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C.M. Mann said:
Hating Bush is as bad as hating gays.



Wow :what:

Since personalisms are not allowed in this forum, I'll just let that statement speak for itself.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Redstorm]
    #10245130 - 04/27/09 09:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hate is Hate, no matter how you spin it!  Just because you have justified your actions, doesn't make it right.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Poid]
    #10245345 - 04/27/09 10:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I lived in S.F. . Then I moved to Berkeley and went to school there. Hate in any form, for any reason is degenerative!  It obscures clarity.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10245356 - 04/27/09 10:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I hate hate! :crankey:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: C.M. Mann]
    #10246635 - 04/28/09 01:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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C.M. Mann said: Hate in any form, for any reason is degenerative!  It obscures clarity.




So does love.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: deCypher]
    #10246644 - 04/28/09 01:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Fag. :tongue2:


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Middleman]
    #10246669 - 04/28/09 01:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

?


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: deCypher]
    #10246751 - 04/28/09 01:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:rotfl:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Silversoul]
    #10247222 - 04/28/09 03:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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What I was getting at with my question is that homophobia has existed throughout the history of our culture, and is considerably less common today than it used to be.  "Homophobia" is a modern term, because the idea that homosexuals are evil perverts used to be taken for granted to be true.  Sodomy used to be a felony in all 50 states.  It wasn't until the Stonewall riots in 1969 that that started to change, and it's only within the last decade that the Supreme Court finally ruled sodomy laws to be unconstitutional.  The fact that we've gone from that a few years ago to having gay marriage now legalized in four states is nothing short of remarkable.  Gays are "the new blacks" precisely because they have made progress.  It was never illegal in this country to be black.




I knew homosexuals were persecuted much worse in the past. I guess I still can't believe that it was completely acceptable (and expected) to hate for such a lame reason.

I didn't know the Supreme Court ruling in the U.S. was so recent, though. Makes me wonder what kind of leaps we'll take between my generation and the next. Exponential times, and all. :eek:


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: learningtofly]
    #10247267 - 04/28/09 03:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Rly? On the other hand, evolution wishes only the best to reproduce, which is why some people think that gay is an evolutionary tool to weed out the gene pool.




I don't think that wording rings true. Evolution doesn't 'wish' anything: evolution is just the on-going result of a big cluster-fuck. There is no 'best,' only best suited to the environment. Sometimes that means the physically weakest, mentally slowest, smelliest, ugliest creatures steal your girl because they have Ferraris. :mad2:

Talk of gene pools is especially irrelevant recently, with the advent of artificial insemination.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Cameron]
    #10247284 - 04/28/09 03:49 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

And in any case, that reasoning doesn't make sense. Evolution doesn't have 'tools' to weed out the gene pool. It can't turn someone gay to stop them reproducing.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: MJF]
    #10247295 - 04/28/09 03:52 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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i've got to admit i've used the term "gay" to mean other things...and i know it's not PC.....but....come on....words are just words.




It doesn't offend me or anything: I'm not gay, and I'm sure most gay people have thick enough skins with all the BS they put up with. But I still think the negative use of words like 'gay' and 'fag' contributes to a subconscious fear and hatred of homosexuals.

Words are only words, but they still shape our worldview: if you associate 'gay' with 'bad' enough times, it's going to effect your opinions. None of us are immune to that kind of pattern strengthening.


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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: zouden]
    #10247306 - 04/28/09 03:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The big G carries some sort of trident, does he not?



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Re: Why is homophobia so rampant today? [Re: Cameron]
    #10247312 - 04/28/09 03:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Because cock sucking is for the gays!


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