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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: sanchothestoner]
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i thought it was common knowledge that if you get your energy from carbs instead of protien/fats you hit a wall:shrug:


id still like some sources that

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quote] Paleo diets are fucking stupid.  The whole premise of the diet represents a neophytic view of, and precludes the bulk of, the knowledge we have about human evolution.
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if humans are so "adaptive" why would it matter if your a meat eater, veggie eater, or somewhere in the middle


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: hidenseek1]
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Hey OP, I don't know much about bicycle competitions, but from what I've heard it's not really what type of food you eat that determines your performance, it's what type of 'roids you take.

:themoreyouknow:

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: hidenseek1] * 2
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hidenseek1 said:
if humans are so "adaptive" why would it matter if your a meat eater, veggie eater, or somewhere in the middle



:lolwut:

I don't think you understand evolution works.  It doesn't happen over the course of a person's life, it happens over the course of many generations.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: pwnasaurus]
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so why is paleo stupid and contradicts what we've learned about nutrition science?


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: hidenseek1]
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If you need more clarification, take a gander and Marlene Zuk's book, Paleofantasy.  It's recently come out and it's highly enlightening not only as a good reference to human evolution, but the human condition in general.  The bottom line? Humans have never been at any type of equilibrium with their habitat, lest they stop evolving in the first place.  And that is clearly not the case.  So, there's never been "a way we're supposed to be." Read more for details.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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It will also make you malnutritioned and scrawny.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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Nemmies said:
I am more concerned with the sports performance aspect of not consuming meat.  I should be more specific.  Although the ethical reasoning is a plus I am more seeking to gain the sports performance aspects.



Then if you are worried about your performance Go Lacto  ovo vegetarian  Then you can still Maintain more healthy fat and protein levels for energy as well as muscle cell repair.


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said:
Nemmies said:
I enjoy biking and have recently started to take it more seriously and push my personal limits.  A huge part of cycling is how light one can be and how light the bike is.  I have recently started consuming way less animal products and will eventually become full vegan.  I have started to adjust my lifestyle to be at the lightest weight possible.  Many riders fast and calorie restrict before a competition, which works to get lighter but will leave one feeling lethargic and will impede the best possible results.  It is impossible to be fat long term eating only fruits and vegetables.  My point in all this rambling is that there is so much bullshit information about how to get skinny and what is healthy out there.  It is simple though, consuming fruits and vegetables and exercising regularly will inevitably leave one skinny as fuck and full of energy at the same time.  I have already noticed results and have been eating this way for close to six weeks.  If you want to find out more info click here


Well the most European races last 5 to 7 hours. Until recently American races were generally much shorter That is why Americans used to fail while on the European circuit.Europeans would carb deplete feeding on mainly fats and proteins. at least a week before a race and do much better, they tended to beat out their western counterparts. Though of similar fitness levels as far as cardiovascular health. Sorry could not find the diet specifics but simply put.
Carbs provide 4 calories per gram.
Protein 4 as well
Fats 9 calories per gram. (A much more efficient energy source for the same amount Gram wise consumed.) All the while both sides maintained relatively similar BMIs and strength levels but the Europeans definitely  Held an edge as far as endurance. Sure being light helps but having muscular strength and high endurance counts for more in the long run.



Im sure there are other factors that come into play.  I do not know enough about it to counter.  Ill get back to you once I look around a bit.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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He's right, having more energy is way more important than being slim. You can be the lightest biker on the block but if you're starving yourself of necessary energy sources you're not going to beat the slightly bigger guy who has excess energy from a good diet.


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
It will also make you malnutritioned and scrawny.



Nope.


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: Khii Khwaay]
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Khii Khwaay said:
Hey OP, I don't know much about bicycle competitions, but from what I've heard it's not really what type of food you eat that determines your performance, it's what type of 'roids you take.

:themoreyouknow:



Lols very true.  To anyone who thinks lance is the only druggie in the sport... you have been misinformed.  All high performance level athlete are on some type of performance enhancer.  People are entertained by inhuman like performance.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.



Humans only need 5% of calories consumed to be protein.  Fruits and vegetables if eaten in large quantities contain all the proper nutrition needed to be healthy.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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Where did you get that idea? You need way more than 5% of your daily calorie intake to be protein for optimal bodily health.

The actual requirements of each nurtient as a percentage of your calorie consumption is:
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Fat: 20 - 35% of total calories (average 30%)
Protein: 10 – 35% (average 15%)
Carbohydrates: 45 – 65% (average 55%)




And a higher activity level requires a higher protein intake. I just did a quick calculation and if you're a 150 pound male athlete, you need 90 g of protein. With 4 calories per gram of proteins, that's 360 calories from proteins and if you're on a 2000 calorie diet that's 18% of your daily requirement.


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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Nemmies said:
JoieDeVivre said:
If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.



Humans only need 5% of calories consumed to be protein.  Fruits and vegetables if eaten in large quantities contain all the proper nutrition needed to be healthy.


:facepalm: Apparently you were born at night. Last night to be exact. Did the turnip truck drive you home from the hospital? Go look into any good sports nutrition information. and you will see that you are clearly wrong.


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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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from the source posted in the original post.  Google it you will find numerous sources supporting it.  Protein deficiency does not exist if adequate calories are consumed.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: r00tuuu123]
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r00tuuu123 said:
Nemmies said:
JoieDeVivre said:
If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.



Humans only need 5% of calories consumed to be protein.  Fruits and vegetables if eaten in large quantities contain all the proper nutrition needed to be healthy.


:facepalm: Apparently you were born at night. Last night to be exact. Did the turnip truck drive you home from the hospital? Go look into any good sports nutrition information. and you will see that you are clearly wrong.



I was born at home.  And not last night.  Do some research towards my statement.  Protein deficiency is does not exist adequate calories are consumed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_pTitYaRU
look up the world health organization study

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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can vegetarians eat animal crackers??

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: thelanzii]
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Nemmies said:
does the idea of eating a raw freshly killed animal sound appetizing to you?



Yeah, very.
Being a vegan is fucking stupid, sorry.

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: r00tuuu123]
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I LOVE cycling and looking skinny but I think you taking this a bit too far, OP. it's not like you are competing profesionaly, are you?

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Re: Vegan Fruitarianism will inevitably make you skinny and full of energy [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
It will also make you malnutritioned and scrawny.



Not to mention it's bad for your heart.  Your heart after all is a muscle.  My dad's cardiologist does not like it at all when his patients go for a vegan diet.  You need protein, it's too easy to not get enough with a vegan diet. 

Op mentioned something about the vegan diet helping him with sports.  All I can say is that there's a reason most athletes aren't vegans.

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