i thought it was common knowledge that if you get your energy from carbs instead of protien/fats you hit a wall


id still like some sources that

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if humans are so "adaptive" why would it matter if your a meat eater, veggie eater, or somewhere in the middle

hidenseek1 said:

if humans are so "adaptive" why would it matter if your a meat eater, veggie eater, or somewhere in the middle

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I don't think you understand evolution works.  It doesn't happen over the course of a person's life, it happens over the course of many generations.

Nemmies said:

I am more concerned with the sports performance aspect of not consuming meat.  I should be more specific.  Although the ethical reasoning is a plus I am more seeking to gain the sports performance aspects.

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r00tuuu123 said:

Nemmies said:

I enjoy biking and have recently started to take it more seriously and push my personal limits.  A huge part of cycling is how light one can be and how light the bike is.  I have recently started consuming way less animal products and will eventually become full vegan.  I have started to adjust my lifestyle to be at the lightest weight possible.  Many riders fast and calorie restrict before a competition, which works to get lighter but will leave one feeling lethargic and will impede the best possible results.  It is impossible to be fat long term eating only fruits and vegetables.  My point in all this rambling is that there is so much bullshit information about how to get skinny and what is healthy out there.  It is simple though, consuming fruits and vegetables and exercising regularly will inevitably leave one skinny as fuck and full of energy at the same time.  I have already noticed results and have been eating this way for close to six weeks.  If you want to find out more info click here

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Well the most European races last 5 to 7 hours. Until recently American races were generally much shorter That is why Americans used to fail while on the European circuit.Europeans would carb deplete feeding on mainly fats and proteins. at least a week before a race and do much better, they tended to beat out their western counterparts. Though of similar fitness levels as far as cardiovascular health. Sorry could not find the diet specifics but simply put.
Carbs provide 4 calories per gram.
Protein 4 as well
Fats 9 calories per gram. (A much more efficient energy source for the same amount Gram wise consumed.) All the while both sides maintained relatively similar BMIs and strength levels but the Europeans definitely  Held an edge as far as endurance. Sure being light helps but having muscular strength and high endurance counts for more in the long run.

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Gumby said:

It will also make you malnutritioned and scrawny.

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Khii Khwaay said:

Hey OP, I don't know much about bicycle competitions, but from what I've heard it's not really what type of food you eat that determines your performance, it's what type of 'roids you take.

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JoieDeVivre said:

If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.

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Fat: 20 - 35% of total calories (average 30%)
Protein: 10 – 35% (average 15%)
Carbohydrates: 45 – 65% (average 55%)

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Nemmies said:

JoieDeVivre said:

If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.

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Humans only need 5% of calories consumed to be protein.  Fruits and vegetables if eaten in large quantities contain all the proper nutrition needed to be healthy.

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Apparently you were born at night. Last night to be exact. Did the turnip truck drive you home from the hospital? Go look into any good sports nutrition information. and you will see that you are clearly wrong.

r00tuuu123 said:

Nemmies said:

JoieDeVivre said:

If you're going veg, make sure you know all the things you need to do to keep yourself healthy without meat. For example, you need to make sure you're still getting enough iron because iron from non meat sources is non-heme iron and so it doesn't absorb as readily as heme iron (heme iron only comes from blood). Also, make sure you're still getting your daily recommendations of protein because protein is essential to so many bodily functions. The same thing goes for fats.

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Humans only need 5% of calories consumed to be protein.  Fruits and vegetables if eaten in large quantities contain all the proper nutrition needed to be healthy.

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Apparently you were born at night. Last night to be exact. Did the turnip truck drive you home from the hospital? Go look into any good sports nutrition information. and you will see that you are clearly wrong.

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Nemmies said:

does the idea of eating a raw freshly killed animal sound appetizing to you?

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Gumby said:

It will also make you malnutritioned and scrawny.

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