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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: SeaShrooms]
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Look you angry old man. Right from the first tis YOU that has been abusive telling me to fuck off, and doggin every post I do. It is obvious that I cannot reason with you and your holding some kind of a grudge against me and my views.
I do not want every thread to be some kind of sad flame war with you so count yer self ignored from now on,

in other words YOU fuck off

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: zzripz]
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~Forgiveness~Understanding~

To ignore someone may be to metaphorically kill them. The relationship between two people may represent a community at its core. Even a single person with an alter ego may represent a community, and a community within oneself. When either person decides to ignore the other, then the community's health may diminish.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: swimmingfast]
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swimmingfast said:
~Forgiveness~Understanding~

To ignore someone may be to metaphorically kill them. The relationship between two people may represent a community at its core. Even a single person with an alter ego may represent a community, and a community within oneself. When either person decides to ignore the other, then the community's health may diminish.



So how would you resolve such a crisis in communication?

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: zzripz]
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May be by elucidating the options you and SeaShrooms may have.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: swimmingfast]
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which are?

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: swimmingfast]
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You may have previously quoted the bulk of it -- "not to ignore" -- forgiveness and understanding may be some options.

I have read posts, outside of this thread, from "zzripz" and "SeaShrooms". I sense what may be strong hearts. Prevail together, with heart.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: SeaShrooms]
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SeaShrooms said:
The reality, is that unity is a distant dream, everyone lives in their own personal universe, separate from every other persons personal subjective universe, and the real universe.

The problem is that it is irrational to expect so many beings, with in many cases no relations between their understandings of the world, to achieve the same goals.

A large portion of people in the world are stuck in survival mode, and are struggling to get by each day, this is their only concern, and they do not even have the time to try and find spiritual enlightenment.



SeaShrooms said:
No, you refuse to accept the possibility you might be wrong, you are a closed minded person trying to imitate a radical, gtfo.



The reality may be that unity may be possible despite the interpretations mentioned above. It may not occur as quickly as most people may want it to, but nonetheless, it may be a possibility important to understand -as well as- may be the possibility of it not occurring.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: swimmingfast]
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swimmingfast said:
SeaShrooms said:
The reality, is that unity is a distant dream, everyone lives in their own personal universe, separate from every other persons personal subjective universe, and the real universe.

The problem is that it is irrational to expect so many beings, with in many cases no relations between their understandings of the world, to achieve the same goals.

A large portion of people in the world are stuck in survival mode, and are struggling to get by each day, this is their only concern, and they do not even have the time to try and find spiritual enlightenment.



SeaShrooms said:
No, you refuse to accept the possibility you might be wrong, you are a closed minded person trying to imitate a radical, gtfo.



The reality may be that unity may be possible despite the interpretations mentioned above. It may not occur as quickly as most people may want it to, but nonetheless, it may be a possibility important to understand -as well as- may be the possibility of it not occurring.



SeaShrooms, who IS the closed minded person? What ARE our thoughts? What does 5% mean? "7 occupations and 6 arrests seem to stick to your brain like stickers on a window pane".
My point - All of our thoughts, all of our ideas about "who we are" are veils of our true existence, because, logically, all we do is exist. That's it. So what does this mean to me? It means that while we have our personal lives, our individuality, we only DREAM that WE actually HAVE these things, that somehow we OWN things and therefore we are seperate from that guy over there who OWNS those things and that gal over there too! they are fleeting perceptions.
:the reality: we are one. we are all one! that is what it means to exist because we all exist at the same time in the exact same place. This might seem irrational, but no occupation, no idealism, no government can alter that fact of reality. No ego can alter this fact, which means we don't have to "get rid of the ego" to be awake... just perfect it.

One way to fly into space, the warm bossom of god, is to defy the laws of tradition - Thank you les claypool.
:aliendance:
The alien - I too believe this is the goal of sentience, to awaken to our true reality and spread light throughout the universe, to reverse entropy through a spiritual progress.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: Baby0Always]
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The point, of everything I have said, is to show, as well as I can, without revealing my identity, that I actually live this shit, I'm not just here to talk about it, and therefore, I have certain skills of discernment, between mega-douche-bags and decent individuals.


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The life of a condemned soul is hatred.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: SeaShrooms]
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Ahhh, yeah, the occupy movement was asphyxiated though, and has moved into more covert operations that may or may not be more like a club for freedom fighters. 
What steps can we take as a collective for moving towards the goal of "becoming the alien"?
One method I see great promise in is artwork, like public collaboration for the idea of unity.

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Re: Are we becoming the alien? [Re: Baby0Always]
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I think the most important thing is conversation, and supporting whatever anarchist libraries or communes exist in your community, most of them were around before occupy but it definitely left its flavor on everything.


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The life of a condemned soul is hatred.

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