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Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens?
    #7822241 - 01/02/08 12:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a grown man with a great wife, a steady job, and am in my 20's. I'm pretty healthy as far as things go upstairs, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why I am so fucking scared of aliens.

I've always been known among my friends as the risk-taker and that guy who can keep his calm in almost any given situation, but when it comes to aliens, I completely lose my cool. I've been deathly afraid of them since I was a little kid. Terrible nightmares of being abducted until I was about 13. Just for the record, I don't think aliens are real.

I feel like this should be one of those things that I should have outgrown years ago, like the boogie-man and ghosts, but I still have this fear of them. I can't even watch those alien abduction type shows on tv, that's a guarantee I won't fall asleep that night.

Maybe some psychology grads on here can help me figure this out. I'm thinking that perhaps they represent something in my unconscious that unsettles me.

Peace.

*I'm talking about these guys, not those e.t. or sigourney weaver ones:



Posting that picture was really fucking hard for me, lol.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7822318 - 01/02/08 12:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it's probably attributed to some past memory long ego of some movie that you saw when you were younger and vulnerable and the alien was the antagonist..

this emblazoned the negative image of aliens in your head (even though they do not exist or you feel that they dont exist and within reason they shouldn't).

i had a similar thing happen with goats and the movie dragnet which i saw very young.

i purchased the movie and confronted my fear and have seen goats in real life and shit and it's no big thing now.

find the movie/tv show that made aliens so scary to you and watch it.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7822355 - 01/02/08 12:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

come to think of it..

aliens are pretty fuckin' scary.

i think i'm afraid of them too.

shit.

i always have these little paranoid thoughts like if you do a certain thing or make a certain noise that it will like call out to the aliens and they will come to you..

i think this was from a really bad dream i had a long long time ago as a child.

it really depends on how you view the unknown. if you believe that they will attack you, maybe you feel that you have done bad things or something in life and maybe you need to come to terms with that (closure). maybe aliens would just want to be friends. i guess if i can give a little insight into what i'm thinking...

i dont know why you posted anon.. this is a legitimate fear in my book.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7822402 - 01/02/08 01:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Not to freak you outmore but maybe you do know they are real. Maybe you had an experience and as a defense mechanism your mind told you do don't believe in them but in unsafe situations it overrides the disbliefe to keep you from being abducted again.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7822687 - 01/02/08 05:45 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

They've been abducting us and using our genetic code for hybridization of our species, and they use extremely high frequency light equipment to fuck with our bodies. Just stay active n move around n make sure your wife snuggles with u at night n ull be safe. No worries mate


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7822916 - 01/02/08 08:52 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)



i used to freak over pictures like these.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7823605 - 01/02/08 12:36 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Many people who have been abducted, thought they dreamt about their abductions, but were real all along.

I know a story of a guy who had a brak down one day, succesful guy like you with wife and kids...but always had something wrong in the back of his mind...an insessent fear about aliens and reoccuring dreams.

Or it could be the movies theory...but if your not scared of aliens like sigoruney weavers ones, then i doubt it was a movie, because movies never have calm looking aliens like the ones in the pictures...atleast not mainstream ones that i know of.

Google abduction stories and see a hypno-psychologist to see if he can unlock why you feel the way you do.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7824525 - 01/02/08 05:40 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

drkrobotnik said:

i always have these little paranoid thoughts like if you do a certain thing or make a certain noise that it will like call out to the aliens and they will come to you..





Same!

I think it may be because you view aliens as being able to do anything and you can't do anything about it. Maybe you think they can just beam down into your house any time they want? The fear of being totally out of control?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Fruitboot]
    #7825335 - 01/02/08 08:49 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Good replies guys and keep em coming if possible.

I had to make this anonymous because this topic is just really embarassing for me to talk about for some reason. I've only told my closest of friends about it too. Not even my wife.

I think there is a psychological explanation for this, the idea of aliens existing doesn't seem possible. Are there really any alien abduction stories prior to the 1900's? None to the best of my knowledge. If they truly are real, why did they just start abducting people in the past 100 years? Doesn't make much sense to me. Plus, they started gaining recognition once mass media took off too.

Man, haha, typing this, I just remembered something very strange that kept happening to me as a child. I had completely forgotten about it until right now. I used to always watch television before falling asleep at night. There were 3 or 4 instances where I would be sitting up in my bed watching tv and a second later or what seemed like a second later, I was sitting in my bed staring at a blank television screen. Completely blank. As soon as I realized I was just staring at a blank television screen, I had this "Why the fuck am I staring at a blank tv screen" thought. So I would search for the remote and find it on top of my dresser then turn the tv back on, only to find out the show I was watching had gone off. I always wondered how the show I was watching just two seconds ago could have just gone off the air. Then I would look at my alarm clock to find that 3 hours had passed by.

The dream which holds the most significance to me and the one that more than likely symbolizes/represents my fear is one that happened to me when I was about 12. In my dream, I'm trying to actually fall asleep in the bed that I am having this dream in. I'm laying there with my head under the covers (I sleep with my head under the covers till this very day if I'm sleeping alone) and I feel this weight come onto the foot of the bed. I immediately break out into this terrible cold sweat in my dream because I want to think it is my dad just coming to say goodnight, but I'm really not sure if it's my dad. I just keep laying there under the covers hoping my dad will say something so I know it's him. About 5 minutes pass and I no longer think it's my dad. The weight is still on the foot of the bed and nothing about it has changed. I decide to take the covers off and steal a quick glance. Sure enough, it wasn't my dad, it was this 7ft grey lanky alien (the guys with big eyes and all). It just sat there completely silent staring at me. In my dream I earnestly felt like I was going to die and I think I wanted to die, the fear was just unmitigating, I've never known fear that great before. Still in my dream, I rip the covers off my bed from underneath the thing and crash to the floor off my bed and get into the fetal position screaming for it to go away, covering myself as tightly as possible with the blanket so I can't see it. Before I know it, my dad walks into my room and asks if I'm ok, I'm just laying in my bed really pale with a really cold sweat, shaking.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7825784 - 01/02/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

that's fucking intense.

i think you found your stimulus.

well dude all i can say is either try to repress that memory, or confront it.. either in your dreams or some other way.

i would say confront it and that would probably be the healthy thing to do, but it's really up to you.

what ya need to do is talk to someone about it. it's really not that big of a deal man.. your wife could see that... maybe she's scared shitless of aliens too.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7825826 - 01/02/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Greetings,
I think fear of aliens is a lot more common then you might think.  I know I had a major fear until around 12/13ish.  My friends (at that time) also had similar fears. 

I used to be a really nervous kid.  This is probably due to me having two older brothers, genetics, and having two older brothers. :smirk:  I still remember how it started...my dad had bought a book (The Communion) and on the front cover was a picture of an alien.  I laughed when I saw it. My brothers shook their heads and began to explain what aliens REALLY are.  It started a terrible fear that lasted some years.  I had dreams of course.....but other things would freak me out.  Whenever static came on our TV, I would think aliens would be playing on our roof and screwing with the dish.  Another instance was during the north-ridge earth quake.  I was sleeping alone in my Dads house.  (up stairs...it had a door to the outside stair case)  The house started shaking that night...and the door sounded like someone was trying to get in.  I thought, with all my soul, that aliens were breaking in and trying to get me.  I just laid their crying.


haha...those are just a few of the MANY things I went through.  I kind of just grew out of it...I might have replaced the fear with something else...or it was the transition into middle school.  Not really sure.  I know me and my friends would spend the night in each others back yards and tell alien stories/freak each other out....so I did have a little fun with it. 

Being scared of something doesn't always need to link to some bigger problem.  It could be fear itself.  Your mind never got a chance to move aliens from the 'threat' part of your mind into the 'fiction' part of your mind.  Oh, and knowing they aren't real won't help at all! 

I think the key to getting over this is going to take some hard work.  What I would do is expose yourself to alien movies.  Movies are a good start because you know an actor/puppet/CGI is playing the alien.  Your mind will start to except that these things are nothing more the another factious object humans use to put a little magic in the world. 

Yes, this will be scary at first...but you will start to see improvements.  Remind yourself there is absolutely no way an alien is going to get you. 

SOme good movies:
Close encounters of the third kind (classic...great movie)
Intruders (this ones old...but very good.  And pretty positive)

Once you watch those...maybe read up on how those movies were made...it will all help your mind refile the location of 'aliens' in your mind (the real goal!)

next you can move up to a little more scary movies:
Fire in the Sky (pretty scary alien movie)
Signs (Love this movie! also scary...) 

Do some reading on the matter...I know I did.  Lots of interesting stuff out there.  The subject of aliens has been with us for as long as history itself.  Long post...but I do hope it's helped you! :smile: 

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7826479 - 01/03/08 05:36 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

nuclear weapons acted like a homing beacon, lsd

what they did was put a bunch of goodies for us in a weather balloon and then watched like kids with an ant farm. the dinosaurs then came out of hibernation or some shit and started using technology to psy control our governments


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7826555 - 01/03/08 07:12 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

That dream sounds terrible.  It reminds me of something horrifying that happened when I was 12ish.


I was up late watching "Sightings" or some other UFO show and I was getting kind of freaked out about it.  I was picturing those grey aliens sneaking around my house in the dark. Then suddenly I heard this crunching/scratching sound behind me.  I whipped around and saw the white face of an alien right outside the glass patio door! 

I screamed this horrible, involuntarily howl.  For a split second I thought I was going to die.

After that split second, the alien face flickered and changed to something else and I realized what had happened.  My cat had made the noise by scratching loudly on the screen door, and as I turned (already freaked about aliens), the image on the TV screen changed to a picture of an alien face, and I saw its reflection in the glass door.

I almost had a heart attack :eek:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7827921 - 01/03/08 03:13 PM (16 years, 29 days ago)

those droolin aliens always bugged me out

thats why aliens vs predator is a must!!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7830601 - 01/04/08 01:51 AM (16 years, 29 days ago)

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Anonymous said:
what they did was put a bunch of goodies for us in a weather balloon and then watched like kids with an ant farm. the dinosaurs then came out of hibernation or some shit and started using technology to psy control our governments



Somehow I bet you cant for the life of you explain this idea with any coherency.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bumble]
    #7830756 - 01/04/08 05:16 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

fear the unknown its cool

shows you got some curiosity at least...


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bumble]
    #7830809 - 01/04/08 06:02 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Squeak! Squeak! Squeak, I tell you! Squeak!"


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: machination]
    #7832086 - 01/04/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Honestly bro, this might sound fucked up.

But perhaps you have been abducted as a child?

Most abductees have problems when it comes to aliens, and it affects them very much.

Look into it bro.

Aliens are real.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: im_on_a_boat]
    #7833693 - 01/04/08 09:30 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Well, your going to have to make peace with these aliens.

I suggest you go out side in the middle of the night and stair out in the sky. Make friends with the aliens, because if you don't they will always be your enemy.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #7833722 - 01/04/08 09:40 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)


e.t. scared me when i was a kid.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bmiles]
    #7834113 - 01/04/08 11:47 PM (16 years, 28 days ago)

wonder why


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #7834152 - 01/05/08 12:01 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Im the same way. I dont really think about them.. but if someone tries to force the topic upon me, or if a movie had a scary scene, it would fuck me up for awhile and id be guaranteed to have trouble sleeping.

I think the poster for "fire in the sky" when i was a kid... really penetrated me.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: machination]
    #7834456 - 01/05/08 03:25 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

machination said:
Squeak! Squeak! Squeak, I tell you! Squeak!"


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bumble]
    #7834919 - 01/05/08 10:20 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

i'm just saying they know how to partysall


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: machination]
    #7835534 - 01/05/08 01:12 PM (16 years, 27 days ago)

unfocusing my vision lookin at the sky shroomed out my gord a red and blue shootiing stars streaks cross the scene, then high outta my zone a white fade followed by a black manage to pass between the trees so i jus sit back and wonder...

fuck the fuzz im buzzed illegals in shit


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Konyap]
    #7837873 - 01/06/08 12:05 AM (16 years, 27 days ago)

haha i'm getting a kick out of these replies because i'm an alien.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: origami.octopus]
    #7839977 - 01/06/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 26 days ago)

i'm land bound


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8473206 - 06/02/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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The dream which holds the most significance to me and the one that more than likely symbolizes/represents my fear is one that happened to me when I was about 12. In my dream, I'm trying to actually fall asleep in the bed that I am having this dream in. I'm laying there with my head under the covers (I sleep with my head under the covers till this very day if I'm sleeping alone) and I feel this weight come onto the foot of the bed. I immediately break out into this terrible cold sweat in my dream because I want to think it is my dad just coming to say goodnight, but I'm really not sure if it's my dad. I just keep laying there under the covers hoping my dad will say something so I know it's him. About 5 minutes pass and I no longer think it's my dad. The weight is still on the foot of the bed and nothing about it has changed. I decide to take the covers off and steal a quick glance. Sure enough, it wasn't my dad, it was this 7ft grey lanky alien (the guys with big eyes and all). It just sat there completely silent staring at me. In my dream I earnestly felt like I was going to die and I think I wanted to die, the fear was just unmitigating, I've never known fear that great before. Still in my dream, I rip the covers off my bed from underneath the thing and crash to the floor off my bed and get into the fetal position screaming for it to go away, covering myself as tightly as possible with the blanket so I can't see it. Before I know it, my dad walks into my room and asks if I'm ok, I'm just laying in my bed really pale with a really cold sweat, shaking.






Hey, I haven't read this whole thread yet, but I need to get this one off my chest. At the age of 26, I had a dream almost 2 years ago at my than boyfriends house. Everything in my dream was the same. Same furniture, same bed, same brown suede comforter, same wooden blinds. You know how when you have a dream shit looks different, well this one didn't. My boyfriend is next to me, but asleep in my dream..or so I think it was a dream, and I felt something on the corner of the edge of the bed where my boyfriend's at. I didn't think much of it,...and than I looked, and damn it...it was a tall grey sneaking around. I think whatever it was, was more scared that I knew what was going on also...and than I screamed. I guess I woke up, told my boyfriend and he thought I was crazy. I have had four dreams with aliens previously, but none where it is in the realm of real time. F.... when I read your story I had to share.
crazy... still don't know what to make of it. I did post a thread on the thought that dmt is the reason for these dreams (the natural kind in the brain). Who knows.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8475108 - 06/02/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)


"The Baptism of Christ"

A disk shaped object is shining beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus - Fitzwilliam Musuem, Cambridge, England - Painted in 1710 by Flemish artist Aert De Gelder. It depicts a classic, hovering, silvery, saucer shaped UFO shining beams of light down on John the Baptist and Jesus.

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

I think the issue is with control, actually. Are you afraid of something smarter, more powerful, more technologically advanced than we humans??


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8475161 - 06/02/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Loved the painting. Thank you for that post. So many believe disk were apart of the mid 1900's. That just isn't the case. :smile: You're dope


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: JapaneseEmpress]
    #8475425 - 06/02/08 03:48 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)


I know this was part of the late 1900s...:uptosomething:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8475662 - 06/02/08 04:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

A common fear, one I share is that aliens are looking into the windows at you at night and spying on you. I dont like to have open windows at night for this reason and prefer to sleep in a basement.

Also, I had a dream just the other day where I was talking to some guy and he was trying to scare me. He turned his face all purple, green red and blue with veins popping out and lightning in his eyes and horns and stuff and I just chuckled and informed him I wasnt scared and I knew I was dreaming. Then I thought of something that -would- horrify me and he goes "oh yeah?" and turns into one of those classic almond eyed aliens. I FREAKED and woke up in a cold sweat.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8475870 - 06/02/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
    #8477792 - 06/03/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Aliens definitly creep me out.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8478037 - 06/03/08 01:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

To the OP, DON'T watch Fire in the Sky. :tinfoil:

Oops, I didn't notice others had already said something about that movie... but it's a seriously scary movie, even if you're not afraid of aliens.

But really, I like to think of aliens as friendly, rather than enemies. Think about it. If they were really advanced enough to get here (which seems highly implausible), do you think they would be so malignant as to torture or harm us? How would they progress as a race if they were a bunch of evil individuals with no morals?

Also, interbreeding is a bunch of bullshit. What makes you think that they would have similar enough DNA and genetics to actually pull that off? That makes little sense.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MorphMan]
    #8479226 - 06/03/08 12:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

if they were a bunch of evil individuals with no morals?

Shit, look at the leaders of THIS country (US and others)...:banghead:


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    #8479529 - 06/03/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

My little brother is terrified of ET and he's 20.


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    #8480708 - 06/03/08 06:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

to the op, try getting over you fear by facing it. make believe birds are aliens and just watch them. i used to be afraid of aliens but its slowly gotten better since i read this http://frombob.to/you/


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    #8486474 - 06/05/08 01:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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if they were a bunch of evil individuals with no morals?

Shit, look at the leaders of THIS country (US and others)...:banghead:




If you want to use our own race as an example then consider this: do you really think that we have a shot in hell of advancing into outer space if we are so immoral and hateful to destroy our own race? If we have any hope of colonizing even our own solar system then we have to work together. Imagine aliens coming to earth... one alien would ask the other, "do you think they are an intelligent species? Look at the weapons they are capable of making..." and the other would say, "no, look, they have the weapons pointed at themselves..." (I think I read that in a playboy._)


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8487491 - 06/05/08 08:42 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It's probably that strong because it's been there full-time as long as you can remember. Such deep integrated things are hard to get rid off. It just could have been a very powerfull fantasy experience, dream, or even a movie you saw as a kid that had huge impact at the time.

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Posting that picture was really fucking hard for me, lol.



when I read this, I was wondering what you think about, what exactly makes you scared about these aliens? It might be hard to reach those thoughts since aliens directly trigger fear now, but the thoughts are there, somewhere. Try to think about these aliens and think of what exactly scares you so much. Writing it down could help.

The advantage is that you know that the fear isn't based on something real. If you're strong enough you could just try to expose yourself on purpose to alien pictures, then to movies for example. Try this as long as you can handle it and push it further, since nothing can happen, right? Fear will peak fast but if you persist the fear will most likely decline after 10-30 minutes once you sense nothing is going to happen. You could see it as a difficult 'psychdelic experience', for example with mushrooms or LSD, when you're in the situation and just have to ride it out. Now you can turn your back ofcoarse if you really can't handle it.

My thought on this is that exposure could help you, but it can be harder than you think. If your wife knows about this fear you could ask her to be with you the first few times you try this exposure. Avoiding alien pictures etc only keep the fear alive and make it stronger.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
    #8487546 - 06/05/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I think the human fear of the paranormal is really interesting. I don't really understand it. I'm not that scared of aliens but the idea of ghosts really creep me out. If i saw one, no matter how non threatening it was, i think my brain would be overloaded with fear. I think fear of aliens and fear of ghosts is similar. They're both a strange instinctive fear of the super natural. Aliens don't bother me so much because i personally see them as natural. If i was mentally prepared for the encounter i think meeting an alien species would be one of the most incredible things i could imagine. We would have so much to talk about.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: DimensionX]
    #8487678 - 06/05/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

most likely it isn't fear of paranormal, but fear of helplessness and not being in control(that's the case with abductions and ghosts etc right!?) From animals you're safe in your home, usually:smirk:, but aliens/ghosts etc aren't stopped by walls in common believers opinions.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
    #8488160 - 06/05/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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most likely it isn't fear of paranormal, but fear of helplessness and not being in control(that's the case with abductions and ghosts etc right!?)....





HELLS YES... that's the answer for my fear. Not being in control. Scared of the unknown, what they can do... I've had dreams where I put myself in a position to be in control, and often I am faced with them changing the environment to produce fearful situations that I in real would not be afraid 0f.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8488262 - 06/05/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I've had a few dreams about aliens, but they're never about abduction.  Most of them are scary and the aliens are after me.  

But most recently I had a very pleasant alien dream.  I was fooling around with this little backpack glider contraption that let me fly short distances.  And then suddenly I knew that they were coming and I went to the spot where I  knew they were going to land.  

So they're ship landed and 5 or 6 little gray-style aliens came out, about 2-3 feet tall, yellowish skin. The little runts were actually kinda cute.  For some reason I felt as if they were my brothers that I hadn't seen in many years so I ran up and hugged them all. I was so relieved and satisfied that they had came.  I had the most immense feeling of love towards these guys.  A more intense feeling of love than I think I've ever felt in my waking life. So much so that I missed them when I woke up.  It was very cool.  We flew around and reminisced and bonded with each other, but no words were spoken.

Since that dream I lost any fear of aliens, I'm eager to meet them.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: BoneMan]
    #8488297 - 06/05/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Can you tell them to send me a dream like this...


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: BoneMan]
    #8489428 - 06/05/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I've had a few dreams about aliens, but they're never about abduction.  Most of them are scary and the aliens are after me. 

But most recently I had a very pleasant alien dream.  I was fooling around with this little backpack glider contraption that let me fly short distances.  And then suddenly I knew that they were coming and I went to the spot where I  knew they were going to land. 

So they're ship landed and 5 or 6 little gray-style aliens came out, about 2-3 feet tall, yellowish skin. The little runts were actually kinda cute.  For some reason I felt as if they were my brothers that I hadn't seen in many years so I ran up and hugged them all. I was so relieved and satisfied that they had came.  I had the most immense feeling of love towards these guys.  A more intense feeling of love than I think I've ever felt in my waking life. So much so that I missed them when I woke up.  It was very cool.  We flew around and reminisced and bonded with each other, but no words were spoken.

Since that dream I lost any fear of aliens, I'm eager to meet them.




Man, that is awesome!

How vivid was this dream?  As you really into aliens or what?

I've never dreamt about aliens, but once I became conscious in my bed (sleep paralysis).  I saw two little green guys, 3-4 feet tall.  They were damn cute actually, kind of bug like.  Big black eyes, small slits for their mouth, no noses, and small, frail, child-like bodies.

I was fully conscious but I couldn't move, so I was freaking the fuck out, trying to break out of my paralysis.  I couldn't.  There was a loud high frequency buzzing focal to my ear.  Kind of electric/machine like.  There was a blueish-hue in the atmosphere. I just told myself to relax and not fight it, and stared right at these two little guys.

Looking at them, I sensed they were neutral, looking at me.  This happened months ago.  I still remember the experience as it happened.  It was very humbling.

I watched them, it was so fuckin vivid.

Even vivid dreams aren't like this.

I challenge anybody to *draw* an exact picture of a dream character they have seen, a setting or anything.  I have never been able to remember in my mind the exact look of a dream charater.  I just doesn't happen.  It's all mixed up.

But this experience wasn't.  It was co-herent.  It was cold.  Metallic.  Controlled.  I remember exactly what I saw and how I experienced it.  It lasted 30-60 seconds.  It all eventaully disippated.  I sat up and thought.. wow.. this.. I am not going to forget.  This is... something else.  There were colours involved.  I'll never forget it. 

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
    #8489495 - 06/05/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

According to Geroge LoBuono, author of Alien Mind, the experience that I described to him, aswell as some of the other posters in this thread, is remote viewing.  They may not physically be where you are, but because the entire universe is a singularity, all inter-connected energy, your brain can cohere energy signatures of just about anything, the same way light bounces off of object to allow us to see... this is similar, except it's not light.  It is another type of energy.  So you can see things that are not local, far up in the skies, somewhere else.  But that just means that everything is local, everything is inter-connected.  I believe this is true.  It doesnt make any logical sense that the universe has empty spaces.

The same way that you can look at a stop sign 50 feet away from you, you and the sign are inter-connected via the light particles?  Or else you would not see it.  It's all information that you your eyes, your brain and light waves/particles synch to cohere the information.  If not for that, you would not be able to describe what you are seeing.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8489895 - 06/05/08 08:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

tripped balls last night on weed, what ever it was it didnt stick around to let me find out

kinda glad... tho my thoughts on the subject couldnt have been loopier

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: JapaneseEmpress]
    #8491598 - 06/06/08 03:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Movies and Media, is the most likely culprit.

They like to paint aliens as terrorists from outer space.

What you need to ask yourself is, what's to be afraid of?
If aliens were hanging around all this time do you think they would have malicious intentions?
Why wouldn't they have taken over the world already and made every human a slave or worse?

If a species has the capacity to travel hundreds of millions of light years through space, do you you think it likely that they would be evil war-like beings? How does a civilization develop the ability for long-distance space travel if they are not peaceful among themselves as a species? And wouldn't they come to such a place as Earth more for observation and learning purposes... then with the intention of taking over or doing terrible experiments to people? Wouldn't a species as highly evolved, be more interested in helping then destroying?

Basically, there's nothing to fear. I fear some humans a lot more than most aliens. What's the real threat?

Your perception of reality defines your experience. I could be in the right state of mind, and see a tulip as a threat to my existence.. does not mean that the tulip is actually a threat.. that's just the way I saw it, in my own subjective experience. Objectively, it is just a flower, just doing its thing as a harmless flower, being beautiful and providing part of the balance to nature.

Another analogy would be say two people are at a party, with two completely different mindsets. Both go through almost identical conversations and witness nearly identical things. One guy has the time of his life and the other guy thinks it was the most terrible experience ever. Your experience is what you make of it. If you go in with the pre-conceived notion that something is going to go wrong, or you are not going to enjoy it, or whatever.. your expectations will taint and alter your experience and memory of that event... and that goes for pretty much anything in life.

One thing to remember is... YOU are always in control. You define your experiences, you control your own reality.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8493193 - 06/06/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, you said it much better than I. This is exactly what I was trying to say but I was a little cocked at the time and apparently had trouble articulating myself. I agree.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MorphMan]
    #8505602 - 06/09/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

My friend was tripping the otherday and got a little freaked out when I kept talking about aliens.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #8506457 - 06/10/08 07:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The fear is because of our complete lack of control.  Its hard to accept that a being is more powerful than humans and can do whatever it wishes to us.

You need to think back to when you were a child.  Meditate and think deep, go way back to your first realization of the possibility of aliens and find out what caused you to feel this way.  You can then change the association in your mind from negative to positive may want to have hypnotherapy to help you do this.

I went through a very similar experience.  Me and 2 friends had a very close encounter with a landing craft when I was about 12.  I had never even thought about aliens before this.  I went and asked my parents what the craft was and they replied shocked from my drawings and description, saying it could only be a "UFO".  I started to research the phenomena only to realize thousands of people had witnessed similar craft and some had experiences with the crafts alien occupants.  From then on I had a terrible phobia at night of them coming to get me.  To make things worse my house was just 60 meters away from where the thing we saw landed.

I'm still afraid of aliens to some extent simply because I do not wish to be taken against my will, be that by aliens or humans.  I've had to deal with it my whole life though.  I'm now in complete acceptance that alien abduction can and does happen.  I don't want to experience it myself but enjoy investigating the phenomena and have become a bit of a passionate alien/UFO researcher.

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
    #8506704 - 06/10/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Let me let you in on a little secret..

Aliens visiting our planet are bound to the rules of non-interference in this galaxy. That is, they are not allowed to interfere or otherwise manipulate our reality directly. They are also bound to the Universal law of Free Will, they can have no influence or interaction with us whatsoever, without OUR consent... no matter if their intentions are benevolent or otherwise. Both sides have to follow the same rules. But I can say with certainty that the VAST majority of beings visiting are indeed benevolent. Bottom line is, you cannot have contact with any alien being without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will", contrary to what movies or confused people like to say to cause one to fear.

Fear is the tool of the service-to-self. Love is the tool of the service-to-other. Like attracts like. Center in love and you will attract the benevolent service-to-other. Center in fear and you attract like-minded beings. But regardless, neither side may even contact you without your explicit permission. Note that this will is subconscious.. if you are at odds with yourself and your conscious mind says NO, but your subconscious says YES, the subconscious is what wins.. the conscious is just your waking ego. The subconscious is the realm of the soul and where telepathy occurs... unite the two and leave no walls or barriers between them.

So bottom line is you are always in control. It's YOUR reality, your free will. If you don't like something - just say NO, they will be forced to comply. You don't have to roll over.
Aliens aren't here to take people against their will or take over the world. They are here to observe and give a helpful hand as we enter this new age. They are not here to fix our own problems for us or save the world, that's up to us. They could, but that would be breaking the rules of non-interference.. Earth is our schoolyard, we have to learn the lessons. Once we are ready, they will still be here.

They are just here to welcome us into the Galactic Society once we are spiritually mature enough as a collective civilization.

It is natural for humans to fear what they do not fully understand.
There is nothing to fear except for fear itself.

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    #8506955 - 06/10/08 10:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

This thread was moved from Physical and Mental Well-Being.

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8507017 - 06/10/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will",





Hmmmm, try telling that to Barney Hill or Travis Walton etc

Unless your suggesting the "souls consent" has nothing to do with conscious consent?
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    #8507067 - 06/10/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

It doesn't. Especially in the modern world, the vast majority of people live their entire lives with fragmented or (compartmentalized) consciousness. Many people are completely consciously cut off from their subconscious, and are essentially at odds with themselves. The conscious mind thinks one thing while the subconscious and unconscious does otherwise. This is apparent as many people live fueled by the ego or waking reality.. declaring that the only "true" reality.. with little to no understanding or even awareness of their more subtle energy body which has a consciousness all to its own. Except that they are all part of the same consciousness.. we just live with them fragmented and cut off from each other.

As for Betty and Barney Hill and Travis Walton, don't believe everything the media spins to you. Those are two of the most high profile contactee cases, and in both instances... the stories have been told and retold, written and rewritten..many, many times...  much like the Bible. Things become sensationalized and the facts get twisted.

The original stories are nothing like the abductee experimentation bullshit you read about today.
There is no such thing as alien abductions. You either go by free will or you don't.
The only one guilty of such abductions is our own governments.

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The media portrayal of this true contactee experience did not adhere to the facts as relayed by the contactee. This is a common complaint from contactees who lose control of the process - their stories, faithfully relayed in exquisite detail, emerge from the hands of the media artists, painting an entirely different picture.

This episode was intended, by the good-hearted aliens and contactee involved, to promote the Awakening. The event involved a significant amount of missing time, witnesses to lights in the sky and the sudden disappearance of the contactee, and intense focus by the entire community on the sudden reappearance of the disheveled contactee. To that extent, matters went as planned. Thereafter, the contactee was subjected to the hostile denial that is so common as to be almost be routine in visible visitations. Where anticipated, this brutalizing of the contactee leaves its mark, and standing up in the face of this hostility is no small matter. To add insult to injury, the media presented what was essentially a healing process as a terrifying capture, confinement, and experimentation. Horror stories pack the theaters, and this is, apparently, all that mattered.




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    #8507091 - 06/10/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will",





Hmmmm, try telling that to Barney Hill or Travis Walton etc

Unless your suggesting the "souls consent" has nothing to do with conscious consent?
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This last sentence had me laughing for a good ten seconds. It made me think about their book that I read about a decade ago. lol


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    #8507117 - 06/10/08 11:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Proof




Jeeze it took 4 years for someone to talk about that NASA capture.

They say the footage was released by NASA but it was all hijacked by a Canadian cable tv station operator.

Other sources show those are not spacecraft or aliens, but jellyfish-like creatures that live in the upper atmosphere of the Earth.

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: JapaneseEmpress]
    #8507149 - 06/10/08 12:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Allow me to elaborate a little bit..

The media is for the most part, a fear-mongering machine. Like I said earlier.. FEAR is the primary tool and motivation used by the service-to-self. It is what oppressive governments have always used to "control" the populace. They WANT us to be afraid of the mere thought of aliens. They want us to be afraid of terrorism, disease, our own neighbors, our own shadows... they just want us to FEAR. There are a million different reasons for this but I won't go into detail.. I'm sure you can figure out why they use fear.

They know that an awakening of the mass consciousness on this planet would result in a loss of their power. This is the last thing they want. They know that this time is upon us now and they know that our first contact with sentient beings from other star systems would open up the floodgates. However, they want to delay or try to stop the inevitable. To them, the aliens represent a threat to their power over us. Because a populace of awakened humans, is humans that realize they are sovereign beings and capable of governing themselves. It is a populace of people that will not tolerate injustice and oppression.

Read between the lines. The powers that be, want us to fear. They DO NOT want us to be centered in love and compassion. This includes ourselves and our neighbors, but also any potential aliens. But especially with the aliens, it seems to me they go to extra special efforts to make sure that we view them as hostile beings to be fearful of. Of all the movies featuring aliens, I cannot think of even one that paints them in a positive light. Perhaps ET, but even that.. even though he is a loveable thing, he is basically an outcast and the government is hunting him down and he has to escape Earth.. it doesn't paint a very good picture.

But that's what you get from the media. Aliens coming from space to wage war against Earth, or abduct us and conduct evil experiments, or whatever. But that's not the case in reality. Far from it. They are pretty much horrified at what we do to our own planet and to each other.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8507879 - 06/10/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have to disagree I'm afraid.

Travis himself stated it was not a positive experience.  Barney could not handle the reality of it.  Most abductees are scared shitless by their encounters.  I don't think this is media spin.  I've seen it come from the abductees own mouth over and over.

These experiments that are being performed seem to be for the aliens benefit.  They clearly require and take something from us against our will.

Not that this is necessarily something we should be afraid of but they do seem to have their own agenda which is carried out.

Why all the missing time episodes?  If its a positive experience why do they give the amnesia so that people forget what they have done?


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    #8508136 - 06/10/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

What do you propose they are taking?

They may be scared shitless but that doesn't mean they were taken against their will.
Maybe Barney couldn't handle the reality of it, but he was a willing participant. Betty was actually the one that initiated contact in the first place.

I myself had a similar experience with these same beings.. the zetas.. a long time ago and in hindsight realized it was I myself, that asked for the encounter. My subconscious self... but that's all they can hear. But this fear thing is important. Service-to-self beings feed on fear. That is their primary attribute. However, some people are so locked into this fear mentality that they see their encounters with even selfless benevolent beings as frightening.

I stand firm in the fact that no encounter is done against the persons will. The experience may frighten someone, but that does not mean they did not agree to it beforehand on a subconscious level. The rules are in place for good reason and they are followed to a T. Those who break the rules are dealt with, and there isn't much rule breaking going on at all, not in this star system.. not anymore.

As for missing time, that is a rather common attribute of the human psyche when the ego experiences something it does not wish to comprehend or deal with. Such as the case when someone experiences something shocking, they will simply block it from their consciousness. Couple that with the fact that all contact experiences are recorded in the subconscious, and the fragmentation I spoke of earlier.. it is often difficult for many people to consciously retrieve those memories without hypnotic regression or something similar. They may "wipe" memories in certain instances... but that is the exception rather then the rule. We take care of most of the memory wiping ourselves... they would prefer us to remember such encounters... but such things must be done gradually over time as they are radically different from what we consider "reality", and to just show everything at once would shock some people half to death.

As for the Zetas.. which are where most of these "abduction" stories come from, they are like us in many ways. They had extremely advanced sciences but their spiritual understanding was not up to par with it. Their planet was devastated by their abuse of science and  their tinkering with their own genetics to the point where their entire race began dying off. So many of them come here to make hybrids of their own and human DNA in hopes to save their race. We do share a common ancestry... but I am confident neither the service-to-self zetas nor the service-to-others are taking any genetic material without explicit permission from the contactee. But they are only one race, out of hundreds or possibly even thousands that are here.. and that is not their only reason for being here. They just happen to be more "active" then some of the others.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8508269 - 06/10/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Always interesting to chat with you shroomism.

Whats your sources of information though?

Is all this from personal communication which you fully believe or is this based on things you've read on the internet or other peoples ideas?

I'm only looking at possibilities based on what is consistent throughout the more credible abductees.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8508665 - 06/10/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Service-to-self beings feed on fear.




And (some) Service-to-others beings are despicable liars with no honor. What does this tell us?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8508723 - 06/10/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

we're gullible


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Konyap]
    #8509730 - 06/11/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

aLiens are so gay. why would you be afraid of those assholes? if one showed up in my room id fuckign kcik his ass and make him wish he never came. fuck those little gray faggots. those eyes are really big for a reason, so you can poke them out


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MorphMan]
    #8510179 - 06/11/08 06:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

:rotfl::braindamage:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8510551 - 06/11/08 08:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you were probed or otherwise abused by an alien as a child?:crazy:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8510616 - 06/11/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Still on that kick eh? :smirk: Sorry that I'm not flawless, I'll try harder in the future.

Ego my source is mostly personal experience.


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    #8512655 - 06/11/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Still on that kick eh?



Only until you make it right.

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Sorry that I'm not flawless



Nor ANY DIFFERENT than the service-to-self people that I have met.

What do you readers think about a person (evil skeptic) who offers another a 99% reduction in debt to another (self-proclaimed service-to-others) and the SPSTO says, "No, I refuse to accept your generous offer because I am not flawless,"?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8513178 - 06/11/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

service to other are hoes jus like service to self are loopy there is a middle passage I think its reality I find the more I help myself the better oof everyone else is when I deny somethin I usually piss off/confuse a lot of people.  @ still makin mistake every day  tho if some one offered me debt reduction I'd accept only if I couldn't do it myself or wanted to smoke mad budz


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8513950 - 06/12/08 02:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Mr. Gray is not from Zeta Reticuli.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8513983 - 06/12/08 03:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yea maybe it is your subconsious mind allowing you to see that you were abducted. that is apparently quite common among abductees. if my damn keyboard was workin id explain further. maybe try a hypnosis session to possibly show you what happened and/or get passed the fear of it. when i dont have to use character map ill come back to this.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8515248 - 06/12/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I think the issue is with control, actually.  Are you afraid of something smarter, more powerful, more technologically advanced than we humans??




I think that is what is behind peoples fears of 'aliens"- lack of control issues.

In the greys defense, the ones you are most afraid of, they say they only abducted their own that incarnated here, who made a pre-life agreement to have their human genes collected ect for the their hybrid program- which their survival they say has been dependent upon.

However, the Pleiadians told them that it was a fucked up deal because the humans they were grabbing up, don't remember a past life as a Zeta, or making any such deals and that what they were doing was terrifying to them and  infringing on the free will of the NOW human being.

Blah blah blah they said they would help them out if they would agree to stop it. This went down shy of '95. To my knowledge, what I learned of this deal at that time ( biazzaro story in itself) is true. I haven't come across any stories of such abductions occurring since that year.

However, there are still humans being taken to their craft by their own free will choosing now. Those that came to fully remember their abductions, demanded rights to see their hybrid off springs. Those visits can't be called abductions.

In short, there is nothing to fear anymore, if you had been abducted in the past. It's OVER!!! It's my understanding that there are hundreds of thousands out there now dealing with this trauma anyway.

Here is what I don't get, weather people believe the stories of the experiments by the abductess or not, everyone is repulsed by the idea of it and fear beings that could do such things.

Yet, look at how humans abuse each other. Look at what humans do to animals during testing. It's worse then what the Zetas are said to have done.

FYI everyone, races that have come here and done despicable things have a trump card. They claim, it should be okay for them as long as it's been okay for us to do it to each other.

We strap people to chairs and electrocute them to death while watching their hair catch on fire and their eye balls pop out. We give healthy dogs cancer via exposing them to common household chemicals we use and watch how high the exposure has to be before they die from it. We chain monkeys to chairs, pry their owns open and spray horrible chemicals into them. Humans will tie a young woman to a pole and throw large rocks at her until she dies just because she had prematital sex. Humans are cutting off young girls clitoris in Africa so they can never recieve sexual pleasure. Children are being abducted then bought and sold as sex slaves. Greedy humans are approving toxic food additives as being "safe", which millions of other humans are slowing dying through sufferable symptoms from, non the wiser. Hiroshima anyone?

We do it all in the name of our own survival and cultural norms/ideals, same as they said why they were doing what they did to some of us.

The ETs hovering around benevolent or not, are watching human beings commit horrible and tortuous abusive acts on each other and other life forms here every minute of everyday still.


Humans are a more scary species to me then the Zetas are.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #8515460 - 06/12/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow. I'm not sure whether to go along with what you're saying or believe you to be the most far-out-there person I've ever met. Where would you acquire all of this information from?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bmiles]
    #8516597 - 06/12/08 06:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ET (the famous one) scared me when I was younger. I watched too much X Files and other scary alien movies as a kid.

I'm breaking out of the condition though. Just let yourself be open to them more, let the fear subside, and break out of years of conditioning. Remember, we are ETs too!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #8517772 - 06/12/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

haha when i was a kid the only thought of Aliens that really scared me was the thought of being abducted and cut up, what not. Lol I guess i just watched too many movies haha


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: QuantumReality]
    #8518352 - 06/13/08 03:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The aliens implant tracking devices in us, kinda like we use to track wild animals or even keep track of livestock.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #8518737 - 06/13/08 07:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The aliens grew us for their experiments.  Earth is their farm.

Just a possibility!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8519562 - 06/13/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i'm an alien...









BOO!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
    #8519593 - 06/13/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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The aliens grew us for their experiments.  Earth is their farm.

Just a possibility!




Yes ive thought of that possibility before, a good one, though i highly doubt it


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: QuantumReality]
    #8524287 - 06/14/08 05:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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    #8526273 - 06/15/08 09:47 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #21133135 - 01/17/15 11:08 AM (9 years, 13 days ago)

In my opinion, to think that humans are the only intelligent life in the entire universe is both arrogant and naive.

No offense to anyone.


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    #21133495 - 01/17/15 12:35 PM (9 years, 13 days ago)

:facepalm:


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