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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
#8487546 - 06/05/08 09:00 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think the human fear of the paranormal is really interesting. I don't really understand it. I'm not that scared of aliens but the idea of ghosts really creep me out. If i saw one, no matter how non threatening it was, i think my brain would be overloaded with fear. I think fear of aliens and fear of ghosts is similar. They're both a strange instinctive fear of the super natural. Aliens don't bother me so much because i personally see them as natural. If i was mentally prepared for the encounter i think meeting an alien species would be one of the most incredible things i could imagine. We would have so much to talk about.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: DimensionX]
#8487678 - 06/05/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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most likely it isn't fear of paranormal, but fear of helplessness and not being in control(that's the case with abductions and ghosts etc right!?) From animals you're safe in your home, usually , but aliens/ghosts etc aren't stopped by walls in common believers opinions.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
#8488160 - 06/05/08 12:19 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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stefan said: most likely it isn't fear of paranormal, but fear of helplessness and not being in control(that's the case with abductions and ghosts etc right!?)....
HELLS YES... that's the answer for my fear. Not being in control. Scared of the unknown, what they can do... I've had dreams where I put myself in a position to be in control, and often I am faced with them changing the environment to produce fearful situations that I in real would not be afraid 0f.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
#8488262 - 06/05/08 12:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've had a few dreams about aliens, but they're never about abduction. Most of them are scary and the aliens are after me.
But most recently I had a very pleasant alien dream. I was fooling around with this little backpack glider contraption that let me fly short distances. And then suddenly I knew that they were coming and I went to the spot where I knew they were going to land.
So they're ship landed and 5 or 6 little gray-style aliens came out, about 2-3 feet tall, yellowish skin. The little runts were actually kinda cute. For some reason I felt as if they were my brothers that I hadn't seen in many years so I ran up and hugged them all. I was so relieved and satisfied that they had came. I had the most immense feeling of love towards these guys. A more intense feeling of love than I think I've ever felt in my waking life. So much so that I missed them when I woke up. It was very cool. We flew around and reminisced and bonded with each other, but no words were spoken.
Since that dream I lost any fear of aliens, I'm eager to meet them.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: BoneMan]
#8488297 - 06/05/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can you tell them to send me a dream like this...
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: BoneMan]
#8489428 - 06/05/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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BoneMan said: I've had a few dreams about aliens, but they're never about abduction. Most of them are scary and the aliens are after me.
But most recently I had a very pleasant alien dream. I was fooling around with this little backpack glider contraption that let me fly short distances. And then suddenly I knew that they were coming and I went to the spot where I knew they were going to land.
So they're ship landed and 5 or 6 little gray-style aliens came out, about 2-3 feet tall, yellowish skin. The little runts were actually kinda cute. For some reason I felt as if they were my brothers that I hadn't seen in many years so I ran up and hugged them all. I was so relieved and satisfied that they had came. I had the most immense feeling of love towards these guys. A more intense feeling of love than I think I've ever felt in my waking life. So much so that I missed them when I woke up. It was very cool. We flew around and reminisced and bonded with each other, but no words were spoken.
Since that dream I lost any fear of aliens, I'm eager to meet them.
Man, that is awesome!
How vivid was this dream? As you really into aliens or what?
I've never dreamt about aliens, but once I became conscious in my bed (sleep paralysis). I saw two little green guys, 3-4 feet tall. They were damn cute actually, kind of bug like. Big black eyes, small slits for their mouth, no noses, and small, frail, child-like bodies.
I was fully conscious but I couldn't move, so I was freaking the fuck out, trying to break out of my paralysis. I couldn't. There was a loud high frequency buzzing focal to my ear. Kind of electric/machine like. There was a blueish-hue in the atmosphere. I just told myself to relax and not fight it, and stared right at these two little guys.
Looking at them, I sensed they were neutral, looking at me. This happened months ago. I still remember the experience as it happened. It was very humbling.
I watched them, it was so fuckin vivid.
Even vivid dreams aren't like this.
I challenge anybody to *draw* an exact picture of a dream character they have seen, a setting or anything. I have never been able to remember in my mind the exact look of a dream charater. I just doesn't happen. It's all mixed up.
But this experience wasn't. It was co-herent. It was cold. Metallic. Controlled. I remember exactly what I saw and how I experienced it. It lasted 30-60 seconds. It all eventaully disippated. I sat up and thought.. wow.. this.. I am not going to forget. This is... something else. There were colours involved. I'll never forget it.

*edit* I will draw up a picture maybe tonight if I have time, with pencil crayons and shit. If anybody is interested?
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: stefan]
#8489495 - 06/05/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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According to Geroge LoBuono, author of Alien Mind, the experience that I described to him, aswell as some of the other posters in this thread, is remote viewing. They may not physically be where you are, but because the entire universe is a singularity, all inter-connected energy, your brain can cohere energy signatures of just about anything, the same way light bounces off of object to allow us to see... this is similar, except it's not light. It is another type of energy. So you can see things that are not local, far up in the skies, somewhere else. But that just means that everything is local, everything is inter-connected. I believe this is true. It doesnt make any logical sense that the universe has empty spaces.
The same way that you can look at a stop sign 50 feet away from you, you and the sign are inter-connected via the light particles? Or else you would not see it. It's all information that you your eyes, your brain and light waves/particles synch to cohere the information. If not for that, you would not be able to describe what you are seeing.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ginseng1]
#8489895 - 06/05/08 08:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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tripped balls last night on weed, what ever it was it didnt stick around to let me find out
kinda glad... tho my thoughts on the subject couldnt have been loopier
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Movies and Media, is the most likely culprit.
They like to paint aliens as terrorists from outer space.
What you need to ask yourself is, what's to be afraid of? If aliens were hanging around all this time do you think they would have malicious intentions? Why wouldn't they have taken over the world already and made every human a slave or worse?
If a species has the capacity to travel hundreds of millions of light years through space, do you you think it likely that they would be evil war-like beings? How does a civilization develop the ability for long-distance space travel if they are not peaceful among themselves as a species? And wouldn't they come to such a place as Earth more for observation and learning purposes... then with the intention of taking over or doing terrible experiments to people? Wouldn't a species as highly evolved, be more interested in helping then destroying?
Basically, there's nothing to fear. I fear some humans a lot more than most aliens. What's the real threat?
Your perception of reality defines your experience. I could be in the right state of mind, and see a tulip as a threat to my existence.. does not mean that the tulip is actually a threat.. that's just the way I saw it, in my own subjective experience. Objectively, it is just a flower, just doing its thing as a harmless flower, being beautiful and providing part of the balance to nature.
Another analogy would be say two people are at a party, with two completely different mindsets. Both go through almost identical conversations and witness nearly identical things. One guy has the time of his life and the other guy thinks it was the most terrible experience ever. Your experience is what you make of it. If you go in with the pre-conceived notion that something is going to go wrong, or you are not going to enjoy it, or whatever.. your expectations will taint and alter your experience and memory of that event... and that goes for pretty much anything in life.
One thing to remember is... YOU are always in control. You define your experiences, you control your own reality.
Just some food for thought.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
#8493193 - 06/06/08 03:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow, you said it much better than I. This is exactly what I was trying to say but I was a little cocked at the time and apparently had trouble articulating myself. I agree.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MorphMan]
#8505602 - 06/09/08 10:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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My friend was tripping the otherday and got a little freaked out when I kept talking about aliens.
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The fear is because of our complete lack of control. Its hard to accept that a being is more powerful than humans and can do whatever it wishes to us.
You need to think back to when you were a child. Meditate and think deep, go way back to your first realization of the possibility of aliens and find out what caused you to feel this way. You can then change the association in your mind from negative to positive may want to have hypnotherapy to help you do this.
I went through a very similar experience. Me and 2 friends had a very close encounter with a landing craft when I was about 12. I had never even thought about aliens before this. I went and asked my parents what the craft was and they replied shocked from my drawings and description, saying it could only be a "UFO". I started to research the phenomena only to realize thousands of people had witnessed similar craft and some had experiences with the crafts alien occupants. From then on I had a terrible phobia at night of them coming to get me. To make things worse my house was just 60 meters away from where the thing we saw landed.
I'm still afraid of aliens to some extent simply because I do not wish to be taken against my will, be that by aliens or humans. I've had to deal with it my whole life though. I'm now in complete acceptance that alien abduction can and does happen. I don't want to experience it myself but enjoy investigating the phenomena and have become a bit of a passionate alien/UFO researcher.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
#8506704 - 06/10/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Let me let you in on a little secret..
Aliens visiting our planet are bound to the rules of non-interference in this galaxy. That is, they are not allowed to interfere or otherwise manipulate our reality directly. They are also bound to the Universal law of Free Will, they can have no influence or interaction with us whatsoever, without OUR consent... no matter if their intentions are benevolent or otherwise. Both sides have to follow the same rules. But I can say with certainty that the VAST majority of beings visiting are indeed benevolent. Bottom line is, you cannot have contact with any alien being without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will", contrary to what movies or confused people like to say to cause one to fear.
Fear is the tool of the service-to-self. Love is the tool of the service-to-other. Like attracts like. Center in love and you will attract the benevolent service-to-other. Center in fear and you attract like-minded beings. But regardless, neither side may even contact you without your explicit permission. Note that this will is subconscious.. if you are at odds with yourself and your conscious mind says NO, but your subconscious says YES, the subconscious is what wins.. the conscious is just your waking ego. The subconscious is the realm of the soul and where telepathy occurs... unite the two and leave no walls or barriers between them.
So bottom line is you are always in control. It's YOUR reality, your free will. If you don't like something - just say NO, they will be forced to comply. You don't have to roll over. Aliens aren't here to take people against their will or take over the world. They are here to observe and give a helpful hand as we enter this new age. They are not here to fix our own problems for us or save the world, that's up to us. They could, but that would be breaking the rules of non-interference.. Earth is our schoolyard, we have to learn the lessons. Once we are ready, they will still be here.
They are just here to welcome us into the Galactic Society once we are spiritually mature enough as a collective civilization.
It is natural for humans to fear what they do not fully understand. There is nothing to fear except for fear itself.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? (moved)
#8506955 - 06/10/08 10:58 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Physical and Mental Well-Being.
Reason: More suited for the M&P forum
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
#8507017 - 06/10/08 11:14 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will",
Hmmmm, try telling that to Barney Hill or Travis Walton etc
Unless your suggesting the "souls consent" has nothing to do with conscious consent?
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
#8507067 - 06/10/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It doesn't. Especially in the modern world, the vast majority of people live their entire lives with fragmented or (compartmentalized) consciousness. Many people are completely consciously cut off from their subconscious, and are essentially at odds with themselves. The conscious mind thinks one thing while the subconscious and unconscious does otherwise. This is apparent as many people live fueled by the ego or waking reality.. declaring that the only "true" reality.. with little to no understanding or even awareness of their more subtle energy body which has a consciousness all to its own. Except that they are all part of the same consciousness.. we just live with them fragmented and cut off from each other.
As for Betty and Barney Hill and Travis Walton, don't believe everything the media spins to you. Those are two of the most high profile contactee cases, and in both instances... the stories have been told and retold, written and rewritten..many, many times... much like the Bible. Things become sensationalized and the facts get twisted.
The original stories are nothing like the abductee experimentation bullshit you read about today. There is no such thing as alien abductions. You either go by free will or you don't. The only one guilty of such abductions is our own governments.
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The media portrayal of this true contactee experience did not adhere to the facts as relayed by the contactee. This is a common complaint from contactees who lose control of the process - their stories, faithfully relayed in exquisite detail, emerge from the hands of the media artists, painting an entirely different picture.
This episode was intended, by the good-hearted aliens and contactee involved, to promote the Awakening. The event involved a significant amount of missing time, witnesses to lights in the sky and the sudden disappearance of the contactee, and intense focus by the entire community on the sudden reappearance of the disheveled contactee. To that extent, matters went as planned. Thereafter, the contactee was subjected to the hostile denial that is so common as to be almost be routine in visible visitations. Where anticipated, this brutalizing of the contactee leaves its mark, and standing up in the face of this hostility is no small matter. To add insult to injury, the media presented what was essentially a healing process as a terrifying capture, confinement, and experimentation. Horror stories pack the theaters, and this is, apparently, all that mattered.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
#8507091 - 06/10/08 11:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ego Death said:
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Shroomism said: without your souls consent. They cannot "take you against your will",
Hmmmm, try telling that to Barney Hill or Travis Walton etc
Unless your suggesting the "souls consent" has nothing to do with conscious consent?
This last sentence had me laughing for a good ten seconds. It made me think about their book that I read about a decade ago. lol
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ChiefGreenLeaf said: Proof
Jeeze it took 4 years for someone to talk about that NASA capture.
They say the footage was released by NASA but it was all hijacked by a Canadian cable tv station operator.
Other sources show those are not spacecraft or aliens, but jellyfish-like creatures that live in the upper atmosphere of the Earth.
I wonder why NASA would insist on calling them 'debris'...
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Allow me to elaborate a little bit..
The media is for the most part, a fear-mongering machine. Like I said earlier.. FEAR is the primary tool and motivation used by the service-to-self. It is what oppressive governments have always used to "control" the populace. They WANT us to be afraid of the mere thought of aliens. They want us to be afraid of terrorism, disease, our own neighbors, our own shadows... they just want us to FEAR. There are a million different reasons for this but I won't go into detail.. I'm sure you can figure out why they use fear.
They know that an awakening of the mass consciousness on this planet would result in a loss of their power. This is the last thing they want. They know that this time is upon us now and they know that our first contact with sentient beings from other star systems would open up the floodgates. However, they want to delay or try to stop the inevitable. To them, the aliens represent a threat to their power over us. Because a populace of awakened humans, is humans that realize they are sovereign beings and capable of governing themselves. It is a populace of people that will not tolerate injustice and oppression.
Read between the lines. The powers that be, want us to fear. They DO NOT want us to be centered in love and compassion. This includes ourselves and our neighbors, but also any potential aliens. But especially with the aliens, it seems to me they go to extra special efforts to make sure that we view them as hostile beings to be fearful of. Of all the movies featuring aliens, I cannot think of even one that paints them in a positive light. Perhaps ET, but even that.. even though he is a loveable thing, he is basically an outcast and the government is hunting him down and he has to escape Earth.. it doesn't paint a very good picture.
But that's what you get from the media. Aliens coming from space to wage war against Earth, or abduct us and conduct evil experiments, or whatever. But that's not the case in reality. Far from it. They are pretty much horrified at what we do to our own planet and to each other.
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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
#8507879 - 06/10/08 04:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have to disagree I'm afraid.
Travis himself stated it was not a positive experience. Barney could not handle the reality of it. Most abductees are scared shitless by their encounters. I don't think this is media spin. I've seen it come from the abductees own mouth over and over.
These experiments that are being performed seem to be for the aliens benefit. They clearly require and take something from us against our will.
Not that this is necessarily something we should be afraid of but they do seem to have their own agenda which is carried out.
Why all the missing time episodes? If its a positive experience why do they give the amnesia so that people forget what they have done?
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