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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
    #8508136 - 06/10/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

What do you propose they are taking?

They may be scared shitless but that doesn't mean they were taken against their will.
Maybe Barney couldn't handle the reality of it, but he was a willing participant. Betty was actually the one that initiated contact in the first place.

I myself had a similar experience with these same beings.. the zetas.. a long time ago and in hindsight realized it was I myself, that asked for the encounter. My subconscious self... but that's all they can hear. But this fear thing is important. Service-to-self beings feed on fear. That is their primary attribute. However, some people are so locked into this fear mentality that they see their encounters with even selfless benevolent beings as frightening.

I stand firm in the fact that no encounter is done against the persons will. The experience may frighten someone, but that does not mean they did not agree to it beforehand on a subconscious level. The rules are in place for good reason and they are followed to a T. Those who break the rules are dealt with, and there isn't much rule breaking going on at all, not in this star system.. not anymore.

As for missing time, that is a rather common attribute of the human psyche when the ego experiences something it does not wish to comprehend or deal with. Such as the case when someone experiences something shocking, they will simply block it from their consciousness. Couple that with the fact that all contact experiences are recorded in the subconscious, and the fragmentation I spoke of earlier.. it is often difficult for many people to consciously retrieve those memories without hypnotic regression or something similar. They may "wipe" memories in certain instances... but that is the exception rather then the rule. We take care of most of the memory wiping ourselves... they would prefer us to remember such encounters... but such things must be done gradually over time as they are radically different from what we consider "reality", and to just show everything at once would shock some people half to death.

As for the Zetas.. which are where most of these "abduction" stories come from, they are like us in many ways. They had extremely advanced sciences but their spiritual understanding was not up to par with it. Their planet was devastated by their abuse of science and  their tinkering with their own genetics to the point where their entire race began dying off. So many of them come here to make hybrids of their own and human DNA in hopes to save their race. We do share a common ancestry... but I am confident neither the service-to-self zetas nor the service-to-others are taking any genetic material without explicit permission from the contactee. But they are only one race, out of hundreds or possibly even thousands that are here.. and that is not their only reason for being here. They just happen to be more "active" then some of the others.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8508269 - 06/10/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Always interesting to chat with you shroomism.

Whats your sources of information though?

Is all this from personal communication which you fully believe or is this based on things you've read on the internet or other peoples ideas?

I'm only looking at possibilities based on what is consistent throughout the more credible abductees.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8508665 - 06/10/08 07:59 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Service-to-self beings feed on fear.




And (some) Service-to-others beings are despicable liars with no honor. What does this tell us?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8508723 - 06/10/08 08:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

we're gullible


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Konyap]
    #8509730 - 06/11/08 12:31 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

aLiens are so gay. why would you be afraid of those assholes? if one showed up in my room id fuckign kcik his ass and make him wish he never came. fuck those little gray faggots. those eyes are really big for a reason, so you can poke them out


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MorphMan]
    #8510179 - 06/11/08 06:24 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

:rotfl::braindamage:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8510551 - 06/11/08 08:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you were probed or otherwise abused by an alien as a child?:crazy:


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8510616 - 06/11/08 09:35 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Still on that kick eh? :smirk: Sorry that I'm not flawless, I'll try harder in the future.

Ego my source is mostly personal experience.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8512655 - 06/11/08 07:38 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Still on that kick eh?



Only until you make it right.

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Sorry that I'm not flawless



Nor ANY DIFFERENT than the service-to-self people that I have met.

What do you readers think about a person (evil skeptic) who offers another a 99% reduction in debt to another (self-proclaimed service-to-others) and the SPSTO says, "No, I refuse to accept your generous offer because I am not flawless,"?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #8513178 - 06/11/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

service to other are hoes jus like service to self are loopy there is a middle passage I think its reality I find the more I help myself the better oof everyone else is when I deny somethin I usually piss off/confuse a lot of people.  @ still makin mistake every day  tho if some one offered me debt reduction I'd accept only if I couldn't do it myself or wanted to smoke mad budz


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Shroomism]
    #8513950 - 06/12/08 02:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Mr. Gray is not from Zeta Reticuli.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8513983 - 06/12/08 03:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yea maybe it is your subconsious mind allowing you to see that you were abducted. that is apparently quite common among abductees. if my damn keyboard was workin id explain further. maybe try a hypnosis session to possibly show you what happened and/or get passed the fear of it. when i dont have to use character map ill come back to this.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: backfromthedead]
    #8515248 - 06/12/08 12:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I think the issue is with control, actually.  Are you afraid of something smarter, more powerful, more technologically advanced than we humans??




I think that is what is behind peoples fears of 'aliens"- lack of control issues.

In the greys defense, the ones you are most afraid of, they say they only abducted their own that incarnated here, who made a pre-life agreement to have their human genes collected ect for the their hybrid program- which their survival they say has been dependent upon.

However, the Pleiadians told them that it was a fucked up deal because the humans they were grabbing up, don't remember a past life as a Zeta, or making any such deals and that what they were doing was terrifying to them and  infringing on the free will of the NOW human being.

Blah blah blah they said they would help them out if they would agree to stop it. This went down shy of '95. To my knowledge, what I learned of this deal at that time ( biazzaro story in itself) is true. I haven't come across any stories of such abductions occurring since that year.

However, there are still humans being taken to their craft by their own free will choosing now. Those that came to fully remember their abductions, demanded rights to see their hybrid off springs. Those visits can't be called abductions.

In short, there is nothing to fear anymore, if you had been abducted in the past. It's OVER!!! It's my understanding that there are hundreds of thousands out there now dealing with this trauma anyway.

Here is what I don't get, weather people believe the stories of the experiments by the abductess or not, everyone is repulsed by the idea of it and fear beings that could do such things.

Yet, look at how humans abuse each other. Look at what humans do to animals during testing. It's worse then what the Zetas are said to have done.

FYI everyone, races that have come here and done despicable things have a trump card. They claim, it should be okay for them as long as it's been okay for us to do it to each other.

We strap people to chairs and electrocute them to death while watching their hair catch on fire and their eye balls pop out. We give healthy dogs cancer via exposing them to common household chemicals we use and watch how high the exposure has to be before they die from it. We chain monkeys to chairs, pry their owns open and spray horrible chemicals into them. Humans will tie a young woman to a pole and throw large rocks at her until she dies just because she had prematital sex. Humans are cutting off young girls clitoris in Africa so they can never recieve sexual pleasure. Children are being abducted then bought and sold as sex slaves. Greedy humans are approving toxic food additives as being "safe", which millions of other humans are slowing dying through sufferable symptoms from, non the wiser. Hiroshima anyone?

We do it all in the name of our own survival and cultural norms/ideals, same as they said why they were doing what they did to some of us.

The ETs hovering around benevolent or not, are watching human beings commit horrible and tortuous abusive acts on each other and other life forms here every minute of everyday still.


Humans are a more scary species to me then the Zetas are.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #8515460 - 06/12/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow. I'm not sure whether to go along with what you're saying or believe you to be the most far-out-there person I've ever met. Where would you acquire all of this information from?


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: bmiles]
    #8516597 - 06/12/08 06:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ET (the famous one) scared me when I was younger. I watched too much X Files and other scary alien movies as a kid.

I'm breaking out of the condition though. Just let yourself be open to them more, let the fear subside, and break out of years of conditioning. Remember, we are ETs too!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #8517772 - 06/12/08 11:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

haha when i was a kid the only thought of Aliens that really scared me was the thought of being abducted and cut up, what not. Lol I guess i just watched too many movies haha


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: QuantumReality]
    #8518352 - 06/13/08 03:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The aliens implant tracking devices in us, kinda like we use to track wild animals or even keep track of livestock.


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #8518737 - 06/13/08 07:52 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

The aliens grew us for their experiments.  Earth is their farm.

Just a possibility!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Anonymous]
    #8519562 - 06/13/08 12:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i'm an alien...









BOO!


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Re: Why Am I Afraid Of Aliens? [Re: Ego Death]
    #8519593 - 06/13/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Ego Death said:
The aliens grew us for their experiments.  Earth is their farm.

Just a possibility!




Yes ive thought of that possibility before, a good one, though i highly doubt it


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