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HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!?
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Really, I need serious help! :awesome::thumbup:

Hello cactus growers! I am seriously need your advice and perhaps experience about this mystic cactus called ortegocactus macdougallii.. Many sites advise any other stocks than trichocereus, BUT can I just use stock what I have there pasted in the picture?

I would otherwise grow these by them own roots but they are so tricky to grow and I wan't graft this! This cactus can transform even shape when grafted! (I saw picture from internet where it have taken opuntia shape when grafted to opuntia!) cool cactus anyway! ..I just need to know do trichocereus stock goes as well as mythrilocactus what is recommended to this species?:sad:

I got today two ortegocactus macdougallii cactus plants. They are about 1inch wide and small. I have some candidates to another to graft it.

..ofc, I have pics so pictures tells more than thousands of words from my situation. Please suggest freely what would YOU do. I have few smaller trichos too for stock to this (+1,5-2cm diam) pictures but it's irrelevant, I have only picture from p. torch cut where I have taken cutting and thinking to graft my ortegocactus macdougallii there. Would it success cause of "fat core"? or is it better than small diameter tricho with thin core? I don't want to fck this cactus. It's so nice and pretty!

I have read and heard that this cactus is tricky to grow with own roots so I will graft another to trichocereus. Is it possible? What I get information from internet, trichocereus seems not the species to graft this cactus, but at the moment I don't have Mythrilocactus to stock, what I read it's good for that cactus..:sad:

I have one cutted peruvian torch bottom where I maybe graft it or another candidate is seed grown ~1,5-2cm diameter trichocereus. I have pics from my peruvian torch stock where I planned to graft it but is smaller diameter trichocereus better than short cutted peruvian torch stock?  I have taken cutting so I have that p. torch already there to just sterilize my knifes and use some rubber bands and glue.:tongue2::thumbup:

What you fellow cactus growers would recommend to get this operation success? :rolleyes:

There are both my new cool cactus plants in my hand!


There is one planted to almost rocks only. Only littlebit of sandy soil at bottom of pot. Look at the little baby coming from it!:heart:


Should I graft this baby to that peruvian torch what left when I taken cutting?! Torch is about 2-3inch long piece of cutting now with good grafting surface.


I have succeed to graft cactus to stock what peruvian torch in my picture, but would it destroy my attempt to get this baby attached to this tricho? or should I get thinner and smaller tricho ~4inch tall and about +1,5-2cm thick young tricho.

What is better grafting stock to this beauty here? Anyone have this cactus grafted to trichocereus? help me before I make cuts! :awesome:

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Also I got new already grafted fascinating elychina castanea f. varispiralis cactus already grafted to trichocereus. Don't kno what tricho  there is as a stock but it's only ~1,5inches wide and under 1inch long "stock" So cool! I covered the small trichocereus stock with rocks. :sunny: I think this cactus is now my new loved one after ortegocactuses!


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Re: HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!? [Re: intelligentlife]
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Actually, lol. I did it.

Let's see how it's going. I found later information that san pedro is good stock for this cactus to I think that peruvian torch ain't so far from that as stock plant. I sense this would work.

I used only rubber bands, razor blades, and steriled the plades with alcohol after every slize I made. I tryed to make as less as possible cuts. I will report if this beauty starts growing on top of peruvian torch piece of cutting!

So there it is what I have done, sorry cause I make thread to ask but then make this my self anyway:awesome:. Wish me luck! Two cactus plants, another will see razor blade, another goes to small pot:


I have already peruvian torch cutted so, it must be my stock for this project! In the picture, I don't have cutted the cactus yet.

Then..

I cutted O. Macdogaulii cactus top off and grafted it to peruvian torch like I usually do grafts. Now I don't even need to use glue, Only rubber bands. And I put these in to small humid box for few days, then I wait and hope for best!:lol:


My other grafts have done quite good. With lophophora, coryphantha etc, but this is cactus I really wanted to graft! I will update this how's its going. Atleast I have used very clean and sharp knifes. Rubber bands gives enough pressure.:tongue2:


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Re: HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!? [Re: intelligentlife]
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I usually graft these onto myrtillocactus as it's a stock I've grown to like. Pretty easy to graft ime. Good luck with yours!

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Re: HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!? [Re: karode13]
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karode13 said:
I usually graft these onto myrtillocactus as it's a stock I've grown to like. Pretty easy to graft ime. Good luck with yours!



I have read it too. But I have only trichos and that I have just taken cutting from p. torch. and that p. torch is cutting too. There is something li 2-3 inches of torch cactus, vascular rings seems to be same size in ortegocactus and at that short torch :awesome:

I readed one cactus specialized page where is listed species what is good for stocks and the page says that san pedro is almost as good as mythrilocactus.

I think this going to work. I have practiced grafting lots of lately. Trichocereus seems to be easy plant with grafting. Ofc not everything works but most of grafts have started to grow nice.

Have you seen much of difference as ortegocactus plant when it's grow grafted? I have seen pictures where that cactus have taken opuntia form cause of graft. And have read lots of stories about grafting this cactus, it starts to grow maybe unexpected forms.:eek: nice..

If I success with this, I make another tricho graft too. I like to make grafts where is very short 1-2inch stock only, or less. So I can grow the plant in pot and cover the actual stock plant with rocks. It is more decoration style than very long stock.

Only coryphanthna I have 4inch long stock above the pot but I have planned to cut coryphantha away from it after it have reaches bigger size. My coryphantha as scion and tricho as stock have make coryphantha grown more in +2months than before it grows in 8-10months. I am very exited to see what kind of form ortegocactus will grow. It's my first "special" cactus if compairing to anothers cause it's kinda tricky grow with own roots.:awesome: After long practice of grafting and success, it is kinda addictive and very cool form of cactus growing! :heart:

I have thinking to buy some peresiskopsis and try few lophophora seedlings with it. But at the moment. I have loved to trichocereus as grafting stocks. I have grafted one peyote to t. terscheckii seedling (about same size plants) So it looks like normal peyote in the ground but uses small round t. terscheckii seedlings roots.

For some reason I have loved to starting to make grafts where the stock can be actually hide lated so only scion plant is visible. :tongue2:

Can anyone say, is it safe to graft ~3-4inch+ diameter peyote if I have good and fat but short san pedro top rooted allready? :sunny: I am not want to kill my loph but I have several peyotes and one would be potential to graft one of my fattest san pedro grow top what is rooted. Pedro is only 4inch tall and +2inch wide rooted tip :awesome:


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Re: HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!? [Re: intelligentlife]
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Also I got new already grafted fascinating elychina castanea f. varispiralis cactus already grafted to trichocereus





badass! i've had my eye on these.... gonna have to order one eventually - i love it!

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Re: HELP me for grafting ORTEGOCACTUS MACDOUGALII.. I have only trichos as stock! worth it?!? [Re: islanduniverse]
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I have grafted a small one onto a pach pup and it has taken but hasn't shown any real growth as yet.

Elychina castanea f. varispiralis are a very cool plant that is high on my list of must have. :inlove:

Cheers
Got


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Thinking and making other grafts too. [Re: GoOnThen]
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GoOnThen said:
Elychina castanea f. varispiralis are a very cool plant that is high on my list of must have. :inlove:

Cheers
Got



I found it by accident from internet vendor and after I saw it I buyed it asap!:tongue2: Also it's great cause it is already grafted.

It is anyway very cool and nice cactus! Form is more interesting than TBM-cactus to me :awesome::thumbup:

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After day one. My Ortegoocactus graft seems very nice. Better than many of my grafts :smile:

I have succeed grafting to just being fast and doesn't have used any alcohol/water/etc even to clean the knifes. Only cleaned knife once with water and then "chop, chop = slice, slice = ready Growing. Tricho is just loveable cactus. I have moved many of my peyote/diffusa/fricii grafts to new stock. Little delay have come to my loph grafting but after a patch of nice small trichos, I have moved every lophophora grafts to trichocereus stocks.:sunny:

By the way.

How easy mammillarias is to graft? I have one crested mammillaria but I am afraid to cut it cause I don't know what exact species it is and rarely here I can find crested plant like this!

That mammillaria would be maybe nice when growing to of trichocereus, but I'm not expert and what kind of vascular ring crested plants have?


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Re: Thinking and making other grafts too. [Re: intelligentlife]
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Cristate vascular rings are more narrow than round. Like an opuntia pad. I'm sure you will manage to graft it just fine :thumbup:


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Re: Thinking and making other grafts too. [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
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Now has past few days when I grafted ortegocactus to trichocereus stocks.

I made two grafts, both have peruvian torch at stock plant. I have used superglue and rubber bands, to day I remove the rubber bands, they seems to be ok :awesome:

Let's hope they starts growing soon. It's going to be nice to watch them growing, if these grafts success. They are hard when touch and superglue keeps them still, I think these will start going.



Now I have total two grafted plants to peruvian torches. I have used alcohol cleaned knifes when doing grats. I will probably kill these more easily without grafting cause this cactus is hard to grow with it's own roots. Very easily rotting cactus.


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Edited by intelligentlife (09/24/12 02:53 PM)

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