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Male And Female Circumcision * 1
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In the USA there is a law against all forms of female circumcision performed on females under 18. When a female turns 18 she has the right to choose to get circumcised if she wants just as at that age she has the right to get a tattoo if she wants one. However the situation is different for men in America. Males can be forcibly circumcised against their will when they are infants, babies, and toddlers. The most common form of female circumcision practiced in the world is identitical to the form of male circumcision practiced in America. In this form of circumcision the prepuce is removed. Both males and females have a prepuce. In males this is known as the foreskin and in females this is known as the clitoral hood.

The only way to achieve gender equality in America is through one of two avenues. Either female circumcision of female infants where the clitoral hood is removed should be made legal, therebye granting males and females equal genital protection under the law.... or male circumcision should be made illegal.

I prefer if circumcision was illegal both males and females until they turn 18 when they can decide on their own to get a body modification operation. If when a man turns 18 he decides he wants to have his foreskin removed then he should have the right to do that just as at that age he could decide to get a tattoo if he wants.

There are more extreme forms of female circumcisions practiced however these are rare. However these forms of female circumcision are most often used as examples by activists who oppose female circumcision. However the most common form of female circumcision is barbaric enough to justify legislation making it illegal.

Some activists oppose both male and female circumcision. Some activists only oppose female circumcision and this is a form of sexist bigotry.

Opposition to male circumcision does not oppose religious freedom. In judaism there is a way of welcoming a baby boy in to the world called a Bris Shalom. This ritual does not involve circumcision and welcomes boys into the world without torturing them. If you have any doubt about circumcision being torture look up videos of baby boys being circumcised and watch the tears roll down their cheeks and their cries of pain and agony.

There is also a jewish group opposed to circumcision called Jews Against Circumcision. At their websie you can learn about the ritual known as Bris Shalom.

http://www.jewsagainstcircumcision.org/

Similarly there is no circumcision requirement in islam. Although circumcision has grown to be associated with islam there is no requirement to be circumcised and so a man can be fully muslim without being circumcised.

Other cultural groups which practice male circumcision are various tribes in Africa, although many tribes in Africa do not engage in circumcision. About half of all the men in Africa are circumcised. Africans, both males and females, have a right to determine what happens to their genitals. But the same is true for those of us in America. We are in the same boat as Africa when it comes to circumcision.

Similarly about half of baby boys born today in America are circumcised, although the percentage did used to be higher. As people are learning about the pain such a ritual puts a boy through they opt out of it, especially since it is unnecessary and cruel.

Outside of America and Africa male circumcisions generally only occur among religious groups that practice circumcision. The majority of men in the world are not circumcised.

His body his choice.

http://www.circumstitions.com/

Some men who were circumcised at birth are resorting to non-surgical techniques to restore their foreskin. These techniques involve applying gentle pressure to the remaining skin on the penis over a extended period of time. This pressure encourages cell division to occur which results in stimulating the growth of skin. After about a period of six month the penis looks and functions like a penis that was never circumcised.

If one wishes to learn about foreskin restoration one can visit this website.

http://www.norm.org/regimen.html

If one is interested in more specifics one can look here.

http://www.norm.org/devices.html

And for a forum to interact with people involved with restoration one should go here.

http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/index.php

Another forum is here.

http://www.restoringforeskin.org/

And below is a link to the exact wording of the law that bans all forms of female circumcision however it does not include males under the same protections.

http://mgmbill.org/usfgmlaw.htm

Edited by lines (07/17/12 04:34 AM)

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: lines]
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Interesting thanks for posting this! :thumbup:

I was going to add a link to

- Clif High Wujo_ (March 24, 2012) Grand Penis Conspiracy

But it looks like all the videos have been pulled from the web...

Maybe I'll upload my saved copy some time.

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: iSpore] * 1
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Goddamn i'm glad i was circumcised when i was an infant. Decrease the risk of infection and god snipped without me being able to know it, :thumbup: win win


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: iSpore] * 1
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If someone said to me at 18 "you're old enough to drink, vote and join the army, how about we cut the end off your penis?" I would probably think it was a pretty bad idea.

That whole story of Abraham setting out to kill his sons because god said so, always freaked me out especially when god said "just kidding, how about you cut the tip of your knob off instead." These are not the acts of a rational man.

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: iSpore]
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iSpore said:
Interesting thanks for posting this! :thumbup:

I was going to add a link to

- Clif High Wujo_ (March 24, 2012) Grand Penis Conspiracy

But it looks like all the videos have been pulled from the web...

Maybe I'll upload my saved copy some time.



I found it. If you go to the following link you can find the audio of it. It is the march 24, 2012 episode.

http://halfpasthuman.com/clifswujo.html

The direct link to the mp3

http://halfpasthuman.com/wujo/wujo3242012peniscon.mp3

Edited by lines (07/17/12 06:20 AM)

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: lines]
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This is a cultural issue.  Many girls have pierced ears before they turn 18, and many boys are circumcised.  Laws are meant to reflect the cultural values of a society...not restrict them...

Certainly, there are plenty of cultural practices that are harmful to people and should be restricted...but circumcision is pretty tame in the grand scheme of things...

I don't care one way or another...It's no skin off my dick if someone wants to circumcise his child.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Circumcision is child abuse.

no ifs ands or buts.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Shins]
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Whether one agrees with the practice is pretty irrelevant to the fact that it's none of your business what other people do with their children. People are allowed to legally do all kinds of things inl regard to raising their children that would be generally considered distasteful, but that is their right and infringing on it amounts to tyranny

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Simplicitry]
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Circumcision is not child abuse, lol.

It's almost necessary for a man to have that done. Otherwise when they get older they are 3x more likely to get urinary tract infections and bacterial infections.

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: ohforkiefssake] * 1
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lines said:
iSpore said:
Interesting thanks for posting this! :thumbup:

I was going to add a link to

- Clif High Wujo_ (March 24, 2012) Grand Penis Conspiracy

But it looks like all the videos have been pulled from the web...

Maybe I'll upload my saved copy some time.



I found it. If you go to the following link you can find the audio of it. It is the march 24, 2012 episode.

http://halfpasthuman.com/clifswujo.html

The direct link to the mp3

http://halfpasthuman.com/wujo/wujo3242012peniscon.mp3



Nicely Done brother!

And yes children should have the choice..

ohforkiefssake said:
Circumcision is not child abuse, lol.

It's almost necessary for a man to have that done. Otherwise when they get older they are 3x more likely to get urinary tract infections and bacterial infections.



Actually no.  And if that where a problem then someone is not teaching their child how to wash themselves properly.

The Human body is a High Performance fine tuned Electro Bio organic Cosmo-spiritual operated machine the foreskin is not there by mistake..


Male and Female Genitalia Mutilation is about taking pleasure..

Do you know is some practices of male circumcision they BITE off the foreskin with their teeth... 

Step out of the Dark Ages!

Edited by iSpore (07/17/12 03:23 PM)

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: iSpore]
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http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/203992.html

I'd rather have less of a chance of prostate cancer, infections and other shit than having my 'pleasure' taken away.

Think about it. If a man has an infection from not being snipped down there, and he has sex with a female. He's technically spreading whatever infection he has, to her and that's dangerous. Can cause cervical cancer.

To each his own but I'd rather fuck a clean penis than one that can harvest infections. *shrugs*

Edited by ohforkiefssake (07/17/12 04:09 PM)

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: ohforkiefssake]
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"the foreskin is not there by mistake.. "

Same with appendixes, gallbladders and tonsils. Yet we still take them out when something goes wrong with them.

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: iSpore]
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iSpore said:
The Human body is a High Performance fine tuned Electro Bio organic Cosmo-spiritual operated machine the foreskin is not there by mistake..




Quote:
Step out of the Dark Ages!



Irony.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: ohforkiefssake] * 1
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Appendixes, gall bladders and tonsils all serve their purpose. Doesn't matter what you think about circumcision. It is child abuse, and it doesn't matter if it's male or female.

FYI, you can still get an infection no matter the state of your cock. By that logic, if I were to cut off your nose, then you wouldn't get a blocked or runny nose.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Visionary Tools]
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It's child abuse if you disagree with the practice...

It's good parenting if you agree with it.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Enlil]
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Is it good parenting if i clip my child's ears like a dog?


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Shins]
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If you live in a culture that does that type of thing, sure...

at one time, it was good parenting to bind the feet of little girls in china.


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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Enlil]
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iSpore said:
The Human body is a High Performance fine tuned Electro Bio organic Cosmo-spiritual operated machine the foreskin is not there by mistake..




Quote:
Step out of the Dark Ages!



Irony.





That statement is NOT directed to a forum member but to the prior comment..

"Do you know is some practices of male circumcision they BITE off the foreskin with their teeth..."

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: ohforkiefssake]
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ohforkiefssake said:
"the foreskin is not there by mistake.. "

Same with appendixes, gallbladders and tonsils. Yet we still take them out when something goes wrong with them.



Yes because we don't really understand the organs..

Do we systematically take those "Problem Parts" out at birth?

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Re: Male And Female Circumcision [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
If you live in a culture that does that type of thing, sure...

at one time, it was good parenting to bind the feet of little girls in china.



one day we will hopefully look back on circumcision like we look back at foot binding - as abuse.

battery, assault...


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