cateyes said:

i don't see how they can say that the chemical imbalance theory has any valid truth to it at all.. have you ever read the pamphlet that comes with the medication? you know the one when you finally unravel it and consider the size of the print it reads like a small novel? well look under action of this drug or how this drug works or what ever the drug company chooses to hide the reality of the medication and every single one of them will say something like "it is believed that dopamine plays a role in schizophrenia" it is believed? BELIEVED????

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happymealplease said:

cateyes said:

i don't see how they can say that the chemical imbalance theory has any valid truth to it at all.. have you ever read the pamphlet that comes with the medication? you know the one when you finally unravel it and consider the size of the print it reads like a small novel? well look under action of this drug or how this drug works or what ever the drug company chooses to hide the reality of the medication and every single one of them will say something like "it is believed that dopamine plays a role in schizophrenia" it is believed? BELIEVED????

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You're right, practitioners push it like it's a fact a lot of the time and it's wrong.  But we can't say it doesn't have validity.  The problem is that it's being used as a common treatment for a problem we don't understand.  We can't verify the chemical imbalance and we can't disprove it.  In some ways it makes sense it some ways it sounds like BS.  We can't measure it yet, and as such noone should be making absolute claims for either side.  Really making any claim for an absolute when it comes to mood issues is kind of reckless.  It could be any number of things.

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ohh, i'm well aware it can be a number of things because i've lived being "misdiagnosed" for over 7, close to 8 years, so you're preaching to the choir now and it's my reason why the entire chamical imbalance thing is bull shit in my eyes... and even if someone were chemically imbalanced in like say serotonin, why not encourage someone serotonin deficient to eat foods high in trytophan and use more of the specific cofactors needed to convert trytopahn into serotonin??? and you can quickly tests for a  serotonin deficiency by giving someone 5-htp for 2-3 weeks and see if their serotonin levels rise as 5-htp is a direct precursor to serotonin and tryptophan is converted into 5-htp!!!!!!!  it's a simple series of tests that could safely be done yet they'll fucking trip you over with their ssri's right off the bat on the first day you meet them!!!! and the pisser!!!!????  ssri's cause serotonin levels to drop!!!! sometimes so significantly and rapidly the patient then actually becomes serotonin low on top of what ever other underlying health issues that exist!!!!!


you see, ssri's prevent serotonin from recycling so to speak, keeping the serotonin molecule permanently attached to it's appropriate receptor...  when you do this serotonin is constantly exposed to enzymes found naturally inside the brain that destroy serotonin which may be one of the reasons why the brain evolved in such a fashion as to create the reuptake pathway... ssri's fuck up brain chemistry so completely most times...  like i said, if there really is a deficiency billions of years of evolution have provided a means to produce them... give the body the tools it needs and it will completely heal itself, it is this fucking simple, yet people will quickly want to depend on a pill for a quick fix instead of putting the time in and helping the body find it's way...

i'm sorry man but i've lived it and there's very little you'll be able to say to me to make me feel otherwise...  i've battled/talked it out with psychiatrists on Utube in front of others who said holy shit after i got done ripping the pdocs a new asshole and the psychiatrists generally log off... my old psychiatrist was a total jack off claiming he did his medical school research on 5-htp but couldn't give me a straight answer regarding any issue i made or point i drove home regarding 5-htp... he had the fucking balls to tell me that taking 200mg was dangerous!!!! the problem was he knew i knew at that point but more importantly i knew that he knew!!!! i'll have my day soon because he fucking tripped me over...


K~~~