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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: Randall_Flagg]
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Trees don't make oxygen because we need it. They were here loooooooooooong before us.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: mr_faux]
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mr_faux said:
Trees don't make oxygen because we need it. They were here loooooooooooong before us.


You got me good.....they may have been before us but obviously not all oxygen breathing creatures, cause they need the exhaled carbon dioxide.

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: graffix87]
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Exodus 20, it's the 5th commandment lol

I've only been researching it a short while, but from what I've read of te Hebrew version, it's a completely different story than the general perspective most "Christians" hold.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: The Influence]
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who created god then???


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I march before a martyred world, an army for the fight
I speak of great heroic days, of victory and might
I hold a banner drenched in blood, I urge you to be brave
I lead you to your destiny, I lead you to your grave
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down-LEMMY

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: devilsgrip] * 1
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devilsgrip said:
who created god then???


Humans.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: mr_faux]
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devilsgrip said:
who created god then???


mr_faux said:
devilsgrip said:
who created god then???


Humans.


Who created humans?

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: The Influence]
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that's some good shit right there!!


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: mr_faux]
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mr_faux said:
devilsgrip said:
who created god then???


Humans.


:thumbup:

The church should have shaved his beard before they presented him. I think men with beards are unattractive.


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: dustinthewind13]
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dustinthewind13 said:
mr_faux said:
devilsgrip said:
who created god then???


Humans.


:thumbup:

The church should have shaved his beard before they presented him. I think men with beards are unattractive.


:studmuffin: All this and your concentrated on my beard?

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: dustinthewind13]
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They left the beard on to keep away your kind.

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: LightShedder]
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I recognize 2 groups of thought: spiritual type and scientific type

Spiritual type looks at the gestation period of a penguin. This period happens to be long enough so that the birds wait to hatch until the arctic sun returns. This synchronizes up perfectly, as another creature with a shorter gestation period wouldn't survive. Spiritual type looks at this phenomenon and think "god made this gestation period perfectly timed up with the sun, there's gods intelligence thrown into nature"

Scientific type looks at the same phenomenon and says "there were many different types of birds, each with varying gestation periods, trying to survive in the arctic. Obviously, all species with unsatisfactory gestation periods failed to survive. The penguin survived due to it's ideal gestation time."

I'm inclined to lean towards the spiritual type when I study nature/universe. It's just a feeling I get that comes along with the complexity/organization of it all.

I think it's easy to take nature/existence for granted because it's all we know. It's easy to just believe that there's nothing mystical behind it because it's all you've ever experienced. A good internal recognition of "nothingness" always reminds me how mystical "somethingness" really is. If it's of any relevance, I was a confident atheist for well over 10 years.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: The Influence]
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I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me. Exodus 20:2-3

that's the NKJV. I get out of that just what it says, put God first and don't put anything above Him, just as He deserves.

I have been wanting to learn Hebrew for a while now though, maybe I can add that to my list of goals


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: LightShedder]
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LightShedder said:
I recognize 2 groups of thought: spiritual type and scientific type

Spiritual type looks at the gestation period of a penguin. This period happens to be long enough so that the birds wait to hatch until the arctic sun returns. This synchronizes up perfectly, as another creature with a shorter gestation period wouldn't survive. Spiritual type looks at this phenomenon and think "god made this gestation period perfectly timed up with the sun, there's gods intelligence thrown into nature"

Scientific type looks at the same phenomenon and says "there were many different types of birds, each with varying gestation periods, trying to survive in the arctic. Obviously, all species with unsatisfactory gestation periods failed to survive. The penguin survived due to it's ideal gestation time."

I'm inclined to lean towards the spiritual type when I study nature/universe. It's just a feeling I get that comes along with the complexity/organization of it all.

I think it's easy to take nature/existence for granted because it's all we know. It's easy to just believe that there's nothing mystical behind it because it's all you've ever experienced. A good internal recognition of "nothingness" always reminds me how mystical "somethingness" really is. If it's of any relevance, I was a confident atheist for well over 10 years.


I think that sums it up pretty good IMO.

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: graffix87]
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The lord must be a 12-year old starcraft player because every time he talks about himself in text he uses all caps.

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: graffix87]
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I don't buy into the whole jealous human entity god personally. That's just too simple and easy to come out of mans silly head to be the end all creator of existence.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
They left the beard on to keep away your kind.


Thank god.


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"It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and forget his own." - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"A room without books is like a body without a soul."  - Marcus Tullius Cicero

"Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it." -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
The lord must be a 12-year old starcraft player because every time he talks about himself in text he uses all caps.


It's amazing how many people insist on devoting every drop of their soul to worshipping a deity that resembles a 12 yr old Starcraft player.

That's axmiserable existence to create for yourself IMO but to them its "the way to a wholesome life".


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: LightShedder]
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thanks for the :lolsy: guys, it made my day.:billymaythumbup:

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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: dustinthewind13]
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dustinthewind13 said:
xFrockx said:
They left the beard on to keep away your kind.


Thank god.


Pun intended.


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Re: Jesus was a liar, his parents were liars, and those who believe him defend him to protect trauma [Re: LightShedder]
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LightShedder said:
xFrockx said:
The lord must be a 12-year old starcraft player because every time he talks about himself in text he uses all caps.


It's amazing how many people insist on devoting every drop of their soul to worshipping a deity that resembles a 12 yr old Starcraft player.

That's axmiserable existence to create for yourself IMO but to them its "the way to a wholesome life".


So how do you believe we all came to be, along with everything around us?

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