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Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment
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Hello I'm sure you all know me by now.. I started this account to learn more about Mycology and to be a part of thee psychedelic community.  In the process however, I noticed a lot of fragmentation in the administration's decision making process and could see how it was affecting the morale of the community members.  Shortly after I picked up a book called The Wisdom of Crowds written by James Surowiecki (an American Journalist who writes a business and finance column called "The Financial Page" for The New Yorker(or did).  Upon finishing the book I decided to start a social psychology experiment, in hopes of giving back to the community by shedding some clarity on some of the flaws and offering possible solutions.


"The Wisdom of Crowds: Why the Many Are Smarter Than the Few and How Collective Wisdom Shapes Business, Economies, Societies and Nations, published in 2004, is a book written by James Surowiecki about the aggregation of information in groups, resulting in decisions that, he argues, are often better than could have been made by any single member of the group. The book presents numerous case studies and anecdotes to illustrate its argument, and touches on several fields, primarily economics and psychology.

The opening anecdote relates Francis Galton's surprise that the crowd at a county fair accurately guessed the weight of an ox when their individual guesses were averaged (the average was closer to the ox's true butchered weight than the estimates of most crowd members, and also closer than any of the separate estimates made by cattle experts).[1]

The book relates to diverse collections of independently-deciding individuals, rather than crowd psychology as traditionally understood. Its central thesis, that a diverse collection of independently-deciding individuals is likely to make certain types of decisions and predictions better than individuals or even experts, draws many parallels with statistical sampling, but there is little overt discussion of statistics in the book.

Its title is an allusion to Charles Mackay's Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, published in 1841.[citation needed]
Contents
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    1 Types of crowd wisdom
    2 Four elements required to form a wise crowd
    3 Failures of crowd intelligence
    4 Connection
    5 Applications
        5.1 Prediction markets
        5.2 Delphi methods
    6 In popular culture
    7 Criticism
    8 See also
    9 References
    10 Further reading

[edit] Types of crowd wisdom

Surowiecki breaks down the advantages he sees in disorganized decisions into three main types, which he classifies as

    Cognition, Thinking and information Processing

    Market judgment, which he argues can be much faster, more reliable, and less subject to political forces than the deliberations of experts or expert committees.

    Coordination

    Coordination of behavior includes optimizing the utilization of a popular bar and not colliding in moving traffic flows. The book is replete with examples from experimental economics, but this section relies more on naturally occurring experiments such as pedestrians optimizing the pavement flow or the extent of crowding in popular restaurants. He examines how common understanding within a culture allows remarkably accurate judgments about specific reactions of other members of the culture.

    Cooperation

    How groups of people can form networks of trust without a central system controlling their behavior or directly enforcing their compliance. This section is especially pro free market.

[edit] Four elements required to form a wise crowd

Not all crowds (groups) are wise. Consider, for example, mobs or crazed investors in a stock market bubble. According to Surowiecki, these key criteria separate wise crowds from irrational ones:
Criteria - Description
Diversity of opinion: Each person should have private information even if it's just an eccentric interpretation of the known facts.

Independence: People's opinions aren't determined by the opinions of those around them.

Decentralization: People are able to specialize and draw on local knowledge.

Aggregation: Some mechanism exists for turning private judgments into a collective decision.

Based on Surowiecki’s book, Oinas-Kukkonen[2] captures the wisdom of crowds approach with the following eight conjectures:

    It is possible to describe how people in a group think as a whole.
    In some cases, groups are remarkably intelligent and are often smarter than the smartest people in them.
    The three conditions for a group to be intelligent are diversity, independence, and decentralization.
    The best decisions are a product of disagreement and contest.
    Too much communication can make the group as a whole less intelligent.

    Information aggregation functionality is needed.
    The right information needs to be delivered to the right people in the right place, at the right time, and in the right way.
    There is no need to chase the expert.

[edit] Failures of crowd intelligence

Surowiecki studies situations (such as rational bubbles) in which the crowd produces very bad judgment, and argues that in these types of situations their cognition or cooperation failed because (in one way or another) the members of the crowd were too conscious of the opinions of others and began to emulate each other and conform rather than think differently. Although he gives experimental details of crowds collectively swayed by a persuasive speaker, he says that the main reason that groups of people intellectually conform is that the system for making decisions has a systematic flaw.

Surowiecki asserts that what happens when the decision making environment is not set up to accept the crowd, is that the benefits of individual judgments and private information are lost and that the crowd can only do as well as its smartest member, rather than perform better (as he shows is otherwise possible). Detailed case histories of such failures include:
Extreme Description
Homogeneity Surowiecki stresses the need for diversity within a crowd to ensure enough variance in approach, thought process, and private information.
Centralization The Columbia shuttle disaster, which he blames on a hierarchical NASA management bureaucracy that was totally closed to the wisdom of low-level engineers.
Division The United States Intelligence Community, the 9/11 Commission Report claims, failed to prevent the 11 September 2001 attacks partly because information held by one subdivision was not accessible by another. Surowiecki's argument is that crowds (of intelligence analysts in this case) work best when they choose for themselves what to work on and what information they need. (He cites the SARS-virus isolation as an example in which the free flow of data enabled laboratories around the world to coordinate research without a central point of control.)

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA have created a Wikipedia-style information sharing network called Intellipedia that will help the free flow of information to prevent such failures again.
Imitation Where choices are visible and made in sequence, an "information cascade"[3] can form in which only the first few decision makers gain anything by contemplating the choices available: once past decisions have become sufficiently informative, it pays for later decision makers to simply copy those around them. This can lead to fragile social outcomes.
Emotionality Emotional factors, such as a feeling of belonging, can lead to peer pressure, herd instinct, and in extreme cases collective hysteria.
[edit] Connection

Surowiecki presented a session entitled Independent Individuals and Wise Crowds, or Is It Possible to Be Too Connected?[4]

    The question for all of us is, how can you have interaction without information cascades, without losing the independence that’s such a key factor in group intelligence?

He recommends:

    Keep your ties loose.
    Keep yourself exposed to as many diverse sources of information as possible.
    Make groups that range across hierarchies.

Tim O’Reilly[5] and others also discuss the success of Google, wikis, blogging, and Web 2.0 in the context of the wisdom of crowds.
[edit] Applications

Surowiecki is a very strong advocate of the benefits of decision markets and regrets the failure of DARPA's controversial Policy Analysis Market to get off the ground. He points to the success of public and internal corporate markets as evidence that a collection of people with varying points of view but the same motivation (to make a good guess) can produce an accurate aggregate prediction. According to Surowiecki, the aggregate predictions have been shown to be more reliable than the output of any think tank. He advocates extensions of the existing futures markets even into areas such as terrorist activity and prediction markets within companies.

To illustrate this thesis, he says that his publisher is able to publish a more compelling output by relying on individual authors under one-off contracts bringing book ideas to them. In this way they are able to tap into the wisdom of a much larger crowd than would be possible with an in-house writing team.

Will Hutton has argued that Surowiecki's analysis applies to value judgments as well as factual issues, with crowd decisions that "emerge of our own aggregated free will [being] astonishingly... decent". He concludes that "There's no better case for pluralism, diversity and democracy, along with a genuinely independent press."[6]
(Which is a big reason why I thought it was a good idea to keep otd around)

Applications of the wisdom-of-crowds effect exist in three general categories: Prediction markets, Delphi methods, and extensions of the traditional opinion poll.
[edit] Prediction markets
Main article: Prediction market

The most common application is the prediction market, a speculative or betting market created to make verifiable predictions. Surowiecki discusses the success of prediction markets. Similar to Delphi methods but unlike opinion polls, prediction (information) markets ask questions like, “Who do you think will win the election?” and predict outcomes rather well. Answers to the question, "Who will you vote for?" are not as predictive.

Assets are cash values tied to specific outcomes (e.g., Candidate X will win the election) or parameters (e.g., Next quarter's revenue). The current market prices are interpreted as predictions of the probability of the event or the expected value of the parameter. Betfair is the world's biggest prediction exchange, with around $28 billion traded in 2007. NewsFutures is an international prediction market that generates consensus probabilities for news events. Several companies now offer enterprise class prediction marketplaces to predict project completion dates, sales, or the market potential for new ideas.[citation needed]. A number of Web-based quasi-prediction marketplace companies have sprung up to offer predictions primarily on sporting events and stock markets but also on other topics. Those companies include Piqqem, Cake Financial, Covestor, Predictify, and the Motley Fool (with its Fool CAPS product). The principle of the prediction market is also used in project management software such as Yanomo to let team members predict a project's "real" deadline and budget.
[edit] Delphi methods
Main article: Delphi method

The Delphi method is a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of independent experts. The carefully selected experts answer questionnaires in two or more rounds. After each round, a facilitator provides an anonymous summary of the experts’ forecasts from the previous round as well as the reasons they provided for their judgments. Thus, participants are encouraged to revise their earlier answers in light of the replies of other members of the group. It is believed that during this process the range of the answers will decrease and the group will converge towards the "correct" answer. Many of the consensus forecasts have proven to be more accurate than forecasts made by individuals.
[edit] In popular culture

The Hugo-winning 1968 science fiction novel Stand on Zanzibar by John Brunner includes an elaborate planet-wide information futures and betting pool called "Delphi" based on the Delphi method.

Illusionist Derren Brown claimed to use the 'Wisdom of Crowds' concept to explain how he apparently predicted the UK National Lottery results in September 2009. His explanation was met with criticism on-line, by people who argued that the concept was misapplied[7]. The Wisdom of Crowds concept by definition requires a known truth or absolute in order to work; the lottery has no such previously-existent absolute outcome. The methodology employed was too, flawed; the sample of people, couldn’t have been totally objective and free in thought, because they were gathered multiple times and socialised with each other too much; a condition Surowiecki tells us is corrosive to pure independence and the diversity of mind required (Surowiecki 2004:38). Groups thus fall into groupthink where they increasingly make decisions based on influence of each other and are thus less accurate. However, other commentators have suggested that, given the entertainment nature of the show, Brown's misapplication of the theory may have been a deliberate smokescreen to conceal his true method[8][9].
[edit] Criticism

In his book Embracing the Wide Sky, Daniel Tammet finds fault with this notion. He explains that this notion may work in the Who Wants to be a Millionaire scenario because audience members have various levels of knowledge that can be coordinated to provide a correct answer in aggregate: Some persons will know the correct answer, others will know what are not the right answers and some will have no clue. Those who know the right answer will choose it, and the others will choose among what might seem the possible answers. The result will be to give a slight edge to the correct answer, even if only a few actually know the correct answer. 

However, Tammet points out the potential for problems in systems which have less well defined means of pooling knowledge: Subject matter experts can be overruled and even wrongly punished by less knowledgeable persons in systems like Wikipedia, citing a case of this on Wikipedia. Furthermore, Tammet mentions the assessment of the accuracy of Wikipedia as described in a study mentioned in Nature in 2005, outlining several flaws in the study's methodology which included that the study made no distinction between minor errors and large errors.

Tammet also cites the Kasparov versus the World, an online competition that pitted the brainpower of tens of thousands of online chess players choosing moves in a match against Gary Kasparov, which was won by Kasparov, not the "crowd" (which was not "wise" according to Surowiecki's criteria.)

In his manifesto You Are Not a Gadget, Jaron Lanier argues that crowd wisdom is best suited for problems that involve optimization, but ill suited for problems that require creativity or innovation."

So you see the ending was a forgone conclusion, as an arbiter of social unrest it was inevitable.  I'm open to any and all comments/questions.

Edited by Enlightenedwon (08/27/11 10:47 PM)

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: Enlightenedwon] * 1
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Does that mean that George W. Bush really was the best option for president of the United States in 2000 and 2004?

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: xFrockx]
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I think the trio were perfect for overseeing America's military capabilities.  Do I think he was a warmonger?  yes.  The problem was a shift in global economics, no more labor force = no war effort, so all that is left to capitalize on are big business contracts, Clinton poured gas on the fire by signing the NAFTA.

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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So the Holocaust was the right way to go if you were a German citizen?

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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A crowd can optimize some specific metric shared by all, but a crowd can't always rank a set of options when the number of options is larger than 2. This is because a crowd doesn't really have preferences, only individuals do, and it's not always possible to aggregate individual preferences into a collective preference in any meaningful sense. There is a formal statement of this fact, it's called Arrow's Theorem and was proven in 1951.

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: Enlightenedwon]
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I'm sure you all know me by now.

Nope, never heard of ya.

Hope this answers your question. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Enlightenedwon: A Social Experiment [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I'm sure you all know me by now.

Nope, never heard of ya.

Hope this answers your question. :thumbup:



I quit at the part where they wanted to put special importance on the crowd coming "close" to the weight of the steer because when you added all the guesses and divided by the number of people you get what?

The Average.  Nothing special.  The fucking average.

Crowds suck in many ways.  I won't debate this it's a fact.  To think that a spontaneous coming together of people will mean anything but trouble normally is insane.  Sure there is strength in numbers lots of people can really do some damage.


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Anxiety is what you make it.

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