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 Irishdrunk Democracy? We Deliver!!!   Registered: 09/12/03 Posts: 24,201 |
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 Interesting!!!!!Where would one obtain this Kelp from? The ocean 30 feet away? Or is there a special non harbor kelp that doesn't taste like boat oil? -------------------- 
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Irishdrunk Democracy? We Deliver!!! Registered: 09/12/03 Posts: 24,201 |
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BTW if you're interested in the truth, not what your government tells you about nuclear plants. Read this!
http://doctorapsley.com/Radiatio Initial Impact: We have a great deal of lessons learned from the case related to the April 1986 Chernobyl incident concerning a single reactor's complete meltdown. If I were defining stages to a meltdown, I would use the following guidelines:(I), 110-113 Ø Phase I Meltdown is when hydrogen gases build up to the extent that the outer containment structure explodes or vents large amounts of steam containing lower molecular weight radioactive isotopes, i.e., Iodide-131; Cesium-137, Strontium-90 and/or Tellurium-132. Ø Phase II Meltdown is when the outer coatings to the fuel rods (Zircaloy) exceed 2000oF, and the inner most containment structure cracks and starts seeping heavier elements into the environment, i.e., Barium-140, Plutonium-244/240/239/238, and/or Uranium-235/234. Ø Phase III Meltdown is when the Zircaloy ignites causing an explosion, resulting in a global catastrophic event because the most lethal of all radioactive isotopes, Plutonium-244/240/239/238 and/or Uranium-235/234 are jettisoned high into the atmosphere, and proceed to contaminate across the globe. We now know that as of March 16th, Fukushima's nuclear reactor units 1, 2 & 3 have all experienced at least Phase I Meltdown, and since Plutonium has been detected in the outer environment, one or more Units is likely to have experienced a Phase II Meltdown according to the above criteria.119 Plus we have fuel rods in non-containment shielded pools of water at Units 4, 5 & 6. These are also potentially prone to release toxic radioactive isotopes or possibly explode if water levels should fall and expose these rods to open air for sufficient time periods (see National Academy of Science report: NAS3-15-05.pdf). Phase I Meltdown has occurred at least in Unit 4. The only difference the pundits may now debate is related to the fact that these exposed reactor cores and exposed fuel rods have yet to suffer a powerful secondary Zirconium oxide (Zircaloy) explosion as Chernobyl appears to have undergone back in April of 1986.(I) Now at least one top expert, Helmut Hirsch, states the damage at Fukushima according to standards under the International Nuclear Event Scale (INES) now equals that of the Chernobyl incident.122 Yet, to counter these experts, the big guns have been pulled out. Scientific American on April 6th reports that, "Wolfgang Weiss, chairman of the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR), also said the Fukushima disaster was less dramatic than Chernobyl in 1986 but "much more serious" than Three Mile Island in 1979. "It is in between in terms of environmental effects, not in terms of health impact," Weiss told reporters." Weiss goes on to report that the only "proven" health disaster from the Chernobyl incident was thyroid cancer in children.128 Hmmmm. Nice try UNSCEAR, but until you start discussing the Petkau Effect and the latest reports on both Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, you will have a difficult time convincing the common sense crowd.129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134 --------------------
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 twighead mͯó    Registered: 08/27/08 Posts: 35,236 Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill 
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Wow Japan sucks at making Nuclear plants...
I just realized that it wasn't just the 1 plant that got fucked up, the coolant systems stopped working at plants Onagawa, Tokai, 600 liters of spent fuel water was lost at Rokkasho the Fukkushimu II plant had multiple failures (unrelated to the big issue at I..) and the Fukkushimu I.. which is the only one that you hear about on the news, has had multiple partial meltdowns so far. (or so it's thought? the reporting sucks ass)
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RonaldFuckingPaul Our Dear Leader  Registered: 10/31/07 Posts: 13,617 Loc: Straight Outta C
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kelp FTW
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cdnshroom Music Will Set Us Free  Registered: 02/04/09 Posts: 638 Last seen: 7 years, 9 months |
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but it did reach the states....lol do your research, recalled milk because of nuclulear particles landing on the grazing fields of cows. true story
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twighead mͯó Registered: 08/27/08 Posts: 35,236 Loc: Glenn Gould's Fuck Windmill
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Is it? I know there was a big hype story about it but I don't remember any recalls or levels anywhere above the acceptable. Link?
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Irishdrunk Democracy? We Deliver!!! Registered: 09/12/03 Posts: 24,201 |
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SHORT TERM ANTIDOTES:
1. N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) is the most powerful short term quencher of ionizing radiation. It is a nutrient, a simple amino acid from protein. For adults (weighing above 150lbs) , it may be taken in dosages of 500mg to 600mg daily for protection from toxic metals and other poisons. For younger adults weighing 100lbs to 149lbs, 400mg to 500mg daily affords adequate protection in most situations. In children weighing less than 100lbs, but above 50lbs, 200mg daily is a suitable dose. For infants, toddlers or children weighing less than 50lbs, 50mg to 100mg daily may be used in juice, as long as no sensitivity to NAC arises (i.e., light skin rashes). In this manner, NAC may be used daily on an indefinite basis, as it is a harmless amino acid our bodies will use to establish antioxidant defenses and aid the immune system. It is also an adequate remover (i.e., chelator - from the Greek which means that which "grabs onto or claws into") of toxic metals from the body, such as radioactive cobalt and directly and indirectly uranium.44, 45, 46 Uranium is quite stubborn about exiting without a fight and could require baking soda to speed things up - see references at very end of page - plus melatonin.23 Liver protection from fall-out radioisotopes like uranium, plutonium, etc... is nicely accomplished via combining NAC + Sea Vegetables (see next) + Melatonin + Selenium + small amounts of baking soda (see number 7 below for all advisories). Lastly - rarely some adults are sensitive to NAC, so be aware of special advisories regarding its long term use. In those cases, use high-quality Whey products.6, 7 2. Iodide is also a first line of defense mineral supplement, since it can out-compete radioactive iodide from entering into our bodies.11 Kelp and other seaweeds are also excellent chelators of toxic metals from the body, especially if high fiber intake is also being incorporated into the diet.9, 10, 83, 84 Despite misinformation to the contrary, if you have no known allergy to shellfish or iodide, rationale supplementation with iodide can be a good thing. For average size adult women, daily Thyroid needs amount to 50mcg alone, while breast tissues, ovaries and other tissues collectively require up to 3000mcg daily. For men, their intake should be at least 1,000mcg daily, unless they are sensitive to the mineral.74, 75, 76 Eclectic physicians may use up to ten times or more of the female dose to treat chronic fatigue and advanced Fibromyalgia with great success,77 as well as to detoxify out of the system the toxic halides bromide, chloride and fluoride.78 For example, individual tablets of Kelp, Irish Moss or Dulse typically contain on average 200mcg of iodine. So, 5 tablets taken at once may equal 1,000mcg of iodine. If 5 tablets are taken at each meal, then the daily dose of iodine from these sources alone would approach 3,000mcg daily. However as referenced above, building up slowly to this level is essential, as iodine tends to rinse out toxic body burdens of toxic fluoride, bromide and chlorine if present. Therefore, when high levels of iodine are taken too quickly without building up to optimal levels, these toxic elements may exit en mass too quickly causing skin rashes, minor hair loss, or very rarely even asthmatic reactions. Eclectic physicians will neutralize this sensitivity with up to 3,000mg daily of Vitamin C.79 But by simply discontinuing the supplement for several days, skin or hair issues should quickly clear up on their own. But if you do experience anything more dramatic, check in with your doctor right away. So always increase slowly and according to tolerance to avoid getting into this kind of situation to begin with. Remember, iodine is an essential nutrient our bodies must have every day to make adequate levels of essential hormones. If sensitivities to iodine do surface, and then clear after discontinuing, and you want to resume taking iodine supplements, check in with your doctor and see if he or she will allow you to begin taking 3,000mg of Vitamin C daily, and then give you the go-ahead to start with very small iodine of iodine daily (1/4 tablet daily). Slowly work up to a maximum of 1 tablet daily, and report to your doctor if your tolerance to iodine at this level of intake is secure. Gradually over time, most folks can up their dosage in this manner, although more slowly than other people. Several months down the road, one initially sensitive may find themselves able to take 400mcg to 1,000mcg daily if patience rules the process. In the rare event any intake of iodide causes resumption of symptoms, including minor hair loss, substitute Chlorella or Spirulina below. 3. Chlorella (and other blue green algae) is a superior protector and chelator of radioactive metals from the body and contains no less than 20 superior neutralizers to radioactive poisons. 5 per meal (250mg each or 1250mg per meal) is a great dose for adults, 3 per meal for young adults and children, and 1 per meal for the very young. Make sure the Chlorella brand you buy has the outer cell wall "cracked" for best absorption. More may be taken, but it is suggested to never exceed 40 tablets daily for adults. Spirulina is a very acceptable cheaper alternative, although the taste is more objectionable for children.3, 4, 29 4. High quality bone meal (rich in Calcium & Strontium Hydroxyapatite) will also protect against radioactive strontium poisoning and penetration of uranium into bone. 3 per meal as labeled is suggested for adults, young adults and children, and 1-2 per meal for the very young.12 5. Natural Vitamin E Complex - To stop cell membrane destruction. 800iu per day is an excellent dose for average adults, and 400iu per day for young adults and children. Toddlers and infants may be given 100iu per day in juice. (Side Note: Krill Oil, CoQ10(H) and Melatonin are more powerful than Vit. E, but also more expensive. See below...) 6. Consuming High fiber and seaweed dishes on a regular basis must be used to maximize the best effects of the above tools. These will help insure removal (chelation) of toxic radioactive metals from the body. 7. Baking soda - Should be taken only on rare occasions, that is, only if exposures to uranium or plutonium can be confirmed, even in trace amounts, for your area. Baking soda is an efficient means to remove these metals quickly (especially uranium). There are several medical conditions which contradict taking baking soda, so be sure you have doctor's clearance before consuming baking soda. Taking baking soda once weekly should pose no health threat if no other medical conditions are present which require restriction of sodium intake. For adults with no medical contraindications, and who have good reason to believe they have been exposed to traces of radioactive fall-out, especially uranium, taking 1 teaspoon of baking soda in 1 cup water or juice up to seven (7) times daily on an empty stomach - on one day out of every seven days - may be warranted. If you have a day of fasting each week, or one of light eating, this would be the perfect day to perform this procedure; but again, only if it has been confirmed you were likely exposed to extremely low levels of the radioactive heavy metals such as uranium. Please see the long list of abstracts regarding baking soda as an effective chelator of radioactive elements at the very end of this document).14, 15 --------------------
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Irishdrunk Democracy? We Deliver!!! Registered: 09/12/03 Posts: 24,201 |
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Q: What are the top two tools to protect oneself from initial stages of radioactive Fall-Out?
A: NAC & Kelp (must not be allergic to shellfish or iodine. If allergic, switch off of Kelp and onto Chlorella or Spirulina): Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 500mg to 600mg NAC at breakfast, and 5 Kelp tablets with each meal. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 300mg to 500mg NAC at breakfast, and 3 tablets of Kelp with each meal. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 100mg to 250mg NAC at breakfast, and 1 tablet of Kelp with each meal sprinkled into juice. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 50mg to 100mg NAC, and 1 tablet Kelp daily sprinkled into juice. Q: What are the top two least expensive tools to protect oneself from initial stages of radioactive Fall-Out? A: Kelp & Spirulina (plus high fiber foods such as raw apples, pears, grapes, cherries, plums, blue berries, etc...).80, 81 Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 5 tablets of Kelp & 5 tablets Spirulina with each meal. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 3 tablets of Kelp & 3 tablets Spirulina with each meal. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 1 tablet of Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella(E) with each meal sprinkled into juice. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella daily sprinkled into juice. Q: What are the top three tools to protect oneself from initial stages of radioactive Fall-Out? A: NAC, Kelp and Chlorella. Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 500mg to 600mg NAC at breakfast, 5 Kelp tablets & 5 Chlorella tablets with each meal. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 300mg to 500mg NAC at breakfast, 3 tablets of Kelp & 3 Chlorella tablets with each meal. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 100mg to 200mg NAC at breakfast, 1 tablet of Kelp & 1 tablet of Chlorella with each meal sprinkled into juice. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 50mg to 100mg NAC, 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella daily sprinkled into juice. Q: What are the top four tools to protect oneself from initial stages of radioactive Fall-Out? A: NAC, Kelp, Chlorella and Krill Oil. Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 500mg to 600mg NAC at breakfast, 5 Kelp tablets & 5 Chlorella tablets with each meal + 1 cap Krill Oil. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 300mg to 500mg NAC at breakfast, 3 tablets of Kelp & 3 Chlorella tablets with each meal + 1 cap Krill Oil. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 100mg to 250mg NAC at breakfast, 1 tablet of Kelp & 1 tablet of Chlorella with each meal crushed & sprinkled into juice + 1 cap Krill oil squeezed & blended into milk or juice. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 50mg to 100mg NAC, 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella daily crushed & sprinkled into juice + 1 cap Krill Oil squeezed & blended into milk or juice. Q: If the lipid membranes are the core issue to The Petkau Effect, what are the best tools to prevent membrane damage during initial stages of contamination? A: Many physicians would chose R-alpha lipoic acid (thioctic acid) as their first choice since it will powerfully retard lipid membrane ionization. But unfortunately, lipoic acid tends to bind metals and deposit them into the nucleus of cells (as opposed to removing them from the body).24, 26 Therefore, it is best to use Krill oil, or 'reduced' co-enzyme Q10 [CoQ10(H)], or Natural Vitamin E(D) and Melatonin to accomplish a better end result. Krill oil, CoQ10(H) and Vitamin E would neutralize the ionizing effects onsite, while Melatonin would also seek to safely remove the offending radioactive particle from the body (via the bile route of elimination provided there is adequate fiber).7, 21, 23, 25 In order of strength, Krill Oil reigns supreme, then CoQ10(H), then Melatonin, and finally Vitamin E. But for the kinds of low dose exposures North America is likely to receive, natural Vitamin E complex should provide adequate protection if taken ahead of exposures. Melatonin is a superior multitasking nutrient and so serves purposes beyond the others. Therefore, this is a prudent tool to include if budget allows. In summary, budget prudently for the suggested schedules below, and if necessary, eliminate Krill oil in favor of Vitamin E, eliminate NAC in favor of extra Chlorella, and substitute Spirulina over Chlorella to save money as necessary. Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 500mg to 600mg NAC + 800iu Natural Vit. E at breakfast + 1 cap Krill oil; 5 Kelp tablets, 5 Chlorella tablets with each meal; and 10mg Melatonin at bedtime. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 300mg to 500mg NAC + 400iu Natural Vit. E at breakfast + 1 cap Krill oil; 3 tablets of Kelp & 3 Chlorella tablets with each meal, and 3mg Melatonin at bedtime. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 100mg to 250mg NAC + 200iu Natural Vit. E at breakfast + 1 cap Krill oil squeezed & mixed into milk or juice; 1 tablet of Kelp & 1 tablet of Chlorella with each meal; and 1mg Melatonin at bedtime. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 50mg to 100mg NAC, 100iu Natural Vit. E, 1 cap Krill Oil squeezed & mixed into milk or juice, 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella daily sprinkled into juice; and 500mcg chewable Melatonin at bedtime. Q: In view of the long term consequences from nuclear power plant meltdown, what maintenance schedules should be incorporated to best help us all prevent cancer decades down the road? A: Kelp, Spirulina, Natural Vitamins C & E,(D) high-quality Bone Meal, high-end probiotics (acidophilus), and Melatonin + selenium along with my Getting Started tab above for complete menu planning. Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 400iu Natural Vit. E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics at breakfast; 2 Kelp tablets, 3 Spirulina tablets & 2 Bone Meal tablets with each meal; and 10mg Melatonin at bedtime with 400mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is to be ingested daily. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 400iu Natural Vit. E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics at breakfast; 2 tablets of Kelp, 2 Spirulina tablets & 2 Bone meal tablets with each meal, and 3mg Melatonin at bedtime with 400mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is to be ingested daily. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 200iu Natural Vit. E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics at breakfast; 1 tablet of Kelp, 1 tablet of Chlorella and one Bone Meal with each meal (all sprinkled into juice as appropriate); and 1mg chewable Melatonin at bedtime with 100mcg - 200mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is to be consumed daily. Chewable Vitamin C tablets may be substituted IF the brand is LOW in sugar. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 100iu Natural Vit. E, 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics plus 2 Bone Meal capsules opened & sprinkled into juice daily; and 500mcg chewable Melatonin at bedtime with 50mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Lastly, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is attempted to be given daily. Chewable Vitamin C tablets may be substituted IF the brand is LOW in sugar. Best Long Term Protocol: I (Dr. Apsley) have an extended family, with children ranging in ages from 34 down to 11, and three grandkids ages 4 & 2 years of age. My recommended maintenance schedules to my family are provided below: Ø Average adults (weighing +150lbs): 250mg to 300mg NAC + 400iu Natural Vitamin E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics & 3 capsules Krill Oil at breakfast; 2 Kelp tablets, 3 Chlorella tablets & 2 Bone Meal tablets with each meal; and 10mg Melatonin at bedtime with 400mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one to three effervescent Vitamin C drinks are to be ingested daily. Ø Young adults and larger children (weighing 100lbs - 149lbs): 250mg to 300mg NAC + 400iu Natural Vit. E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics & 2 caps Krill Oil at breakfast; 2 tablets of Kelp, 2 Chlorella tablets & 2 Bone meal tablets with each meal, and 3mg Melatonin at bedtime with 400mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is to be ingested daily. Ø For smaller children (weighing 50lbs - 99lbs): 100mg NAC + 200iu Natural Vit. E plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics & 1 cap Krill Oil at breakfast; 1 tablet of Kelp, 1 tablet of Chlorella and one Bone Meal with each meal (all sprinkled into juice as appropriate); and 1mg chewable Melatonin at bedtime with 100mcg - 200mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Also, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is to be consumed daily. Chewable Vitamin C tablets may be substituted IF the brand is LOW in sugar. Ø For the very young (weighing less than 50lbs): 50mg to 100mg NAC, 100iu Natural Vit. E, 1 tablet Kelp & 1 tablet Chlorella plus 1 capsule high potency Probiotics plus 2 Bone Meal capsules opened & sprinkled into juice daily; and 500mcg chewable Melatonin at bedtime with 50mcg selenium from selenomethionate. Lastly, one effervescent Vitamin C drink is attempted to be given daily. Chewable Vitamin C tablets may be substituted IF the brand is LOW in sugar. --------------------
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cdnshroom Music Will Set Us Free Registered: 02/04/09 Posts: 638 Last seen: 7 years, 9 months |
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just getting back to this now, sorry for being rude, i was liq'd but yeah, i heard it on the news here in canada that a bunch of milk was recalled somewheres in the states do to that reason, but now i am too high and lazy to look it up. but you can trust me 
-------------------- "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" I'm a full-fledged music junkie......rehab is not an option.
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sleepy zZzZzZzZz  Registered: 01/17/05 Posts: 3,888 Loc:
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it floods the iodine receptors in your thyroid so that the radioactive iodine has no place to hold and is passed out of the body. you can get good a source of iodine from seaweed and unrefined sea salt like www.realsalt.com and other natural sources too. various other natural products remove other radioactive particles from the body, i think blue green algae is one. natural iodine from food does the same thing as potassium iodide but without the side effects. i wouldn't be too worried but i've been eating seaweed just in case. btw, i was 17 weeks old (unborn) when chernobyl happened, and i'm a pretty sick kid. i can't gain weight and i frequent drug forums... now i don't know if this has to do with the fact that i was in germany during the chernobyl accident, but i'd take the simple steps of researching a correct diet and keep to it especially if you are having kids. and don't tell them they were an accident like my mom did. chernobyl was an accident, not me... 
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sandi omg  Registered: 04/11/11 Posts: 796 Loc: M6 (Butterfly Cl |
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The EPA has said for weeks that the levels in milk are above their previously acceptable limits, but that it was okay anyway. The issue with the EPA and the media is that they completely disregarded, from day one, the possibility that this would be an ongoing buildup of radiation. And despite the fact that levels in food and water are going down, the radiation releases may become heavy again before they can cover the reactors. Had they not pulled a miracle (albeit a horribly slow moving miracle), we would still be seeing increasing amounts of radiation building up over the US. According to Berkeley and the EPA, it is no longer building up, it is receding. However, experts from around the world are saying that the releases can start to rival what they were in the beginning of this crisis, and ebb and flow, so that means more contamination to come most likely, over the next year. Only iodine is going to actually go away within a reasonable time frame. Cesium will not. It will only build up in the ecosystem. This, and other particles, is where the true worry comes from. How much radiation continues to leak, and if we will see a build-up again in tap and rainwater, will be watched closely. "In the United States EPA data show rising levels of Iodine-131, Cesium-134, and Cesium-137 up to 300% of maximum limits. Hawaii milk samples showed radiation 800% above normal for Cesium-134, 633% for Cesium-137, and 600% for Iodine-131. Water contamination measured over 20 times acceptable levels. Mainland amounts are also rising, including in air, soil, grass, milk, spinach, strawberries, and other foods. Milk is especially important as it suggests the health of the entire food supply because cows eat grass. When grass is contaminated, so is everything grown in the same soil. At least 14 US cities reported unsafe radiation amounts in drinking water. However, EPA is only testing for Iodine-131, not Cesium, Uranium or Plutonium, all emitted from Fukushima. Several radiation monitoring stations throughout Spain have recorded increases in the concentration of iodine and cesium in the air coming from Japan. Same goes for France." As I said, though, supposely levels are falling now. More info here. Rainwater levels were for a few weeks thousands of times over the safe EPA limits for drinking water. Again, no big news story here. No wonder you didn't know. The problem is, they didn't put any effort into telling the public this. Do you know how many people in remote locations actually use rainwater as their sources? I know quite a few people. Yes, they are hippies. But even hippies should be informed. As well as the fact that this is undoubtedly being drank by livestock which are not factory farmed, pets...the public should have been alerted, but weren't until a week later after the EPA found the levels were that high in many places across t he US. EPA: Radioactive Iodine-131 levels in PA & MA rainwater “exceed maximum contaminant level permitted in drinking water” If you want links to a round up of contaminant levels in the rainwater and a page with links to the EPA testing, go here: Rainwater levels Tap water all over the US, especially Boise, also we said to be thousands of levels below acceptable limits, but radiation was still detected. Then, they changed the story to hundreds. And closer, and closer. Again, they say don't worry. Gee, where does our water supply come from, people!? Rain. Rain fills our reservoirs. Rain goes into the water table. Hmmm. Duh! Yes, since they have a handle on the reactors now, it is not going to build up and the levels are receding. Berkeley was the first to find this in the tap water: "We instead should be discussing tap water, in which we detected a small amount of I-131 (0.024 Bq/L). This is a factor of almost 1,000 below the rainwater measurement and a factor of 4.6 below the EPA limit. It should also be noted that the EPA limit assumes the water is ingested over the course of an entire year. That is, someone drinking 3 pCi/L water for an entire year would reach the EPA dose limit of 4 millirem, which is a very small dose. The tap water measurement of 0.024 Bq/L on 3/29 is our only detection of I-131; on subsequent days it could not be detected, probably due to the radioactive decay of I-131. So this tap water could have been ingested for at most 1 day, giving the public a dose 365 times smaller than if one assumes an entire year of ingestion. That means the tap water is effectively a factor of 1,700 below the EPA limit. Finally, we believe that the clear decay in all isotopes shown in our air filtration measurements is an indication that water activity levels are declining at least for now." Berkeley Testing Milk was also 800 times the normal levels in Hawaii. This was still considered safe by the government, though, so there was no recall in the US of any milk. At least, I did not hear about that. It was also said that you would have to consume a quart a day of milk in some areas to worry about the risk. Okay, when you put together tap water, milk, and produce (if you eat fresh produce) that is all contaminated, then you *do* have a right to worry and wonder what the levels are. The public deserves to be informed in a timely fashion, and they were not. Berkeley discovered radiation in produce as well as other products like topsoil. Remember, first the EPA and government told us that no fallout would reach us. Then, they changed their story after a while, and said, okay, it might reach us. Then, once it did reach us and got in the water, milk, grass, rain, everywhere...and it only builds up more and more....they say don't worry, it's not dangerous. For me, it's not really freaking about radiation. It's being upset with the inability or unwillingness of the media and EPA to actually report things as they are happening, without huge delays, without playing it down. The media did not know if Japan would be able to get this controlled. Thus, telling people to not buy iodide tablets, while the reactors were still spewing out large amounts radiation, is infuriating. Let people decide for themselves if they want to avoid products that have radiation in them, in any amount. They kept comparing it to background radiation and cross-country flights until experts lambasted them by reminding the public that this is fallout, not background radiation, and fallout is getting into your food, particles you eat are far more dangerous than any background radiation. That is why this is such a crappy situation. Even Berkeley keeps making this comparison. Believe what you want; I have heard experts say that an x-ray is not the same as eating radiation. Who knows. I am not an expert. But I appreciate media that doesn't downplay the risks. The fact that the EPA did not have public data ready for weeks after the crisis also was frustrating and did little to help ease people's fears. Now, they have a realtime monitoring net. Before, they had a page that said they had realtime data available to people who were experts, and there was a login page with a warning not to try to login, or face jail time. That was helpful... Disclaimer: I'm human. I make mistakes. If I have, then sorry ahead of time... -------------------- 
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blazenn rawdog the whale.  Registered: 05/13/09 Posts: 4,584 Loc:
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QFT!!!!!!!! also even if we are in 0 danger, then why isn't the EPA more public about how "safe" they think our food supply/precipitation still is??? it seems like all they've tried to do through this whole situation is release only just enough information to keep the population satisfied that takes situations like these lightly and have full faith in the government. but for those of us who like to obsess over every little detail, especially in situations like this, they have hard time releasing all the little facts. even though they have more than enough technology to maintain a day to day reading of the levels of every radioactive compound in our skies, foods, milk, and oxygen. all i know is that the fact that there MIGHT be radioactive compounds in our water, milk, and pretty much everything else, is more than enough reason for all of us to take precautions now. kelp powder is probly the best bet, because even if we aren't being exposed to nuclear fallout kelp powder is stll a very healthy mineral to use daily. helps maintain a healthy thyroid which regulates body temperature among other things, kelp powder also helps to keep a healthier blood stream and even strengthens your immune system. i can't remember all the benefits off the top of my head but it's worth looking into and i'm already getting my supply. i highly reccomend everyone else does to.
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okay, What the hell was Japans plan of attack after WW2? really!?!?!?! (  1 2 3 all ) |
 ZippoZ |
7,508 | 43 | 12/07/05 10:44 AM by WhiteBunny |
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America is kinda freaking me out.. anyone else? ( 1 2 all ) |
 Chills420 version2 |
7,116 | 37 | 02/27/03 05:21 PM by Baby_Hitler |
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Japan is a lil under par here |  LethalX5 |
1,800 | 17 | 09/03/05 01:37 AM by LethalX5 |
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Wow. America is totally Rightwing now... ( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all ) |
 bf6 |
10,730 | 108 | 11/03/04 06:09 PM by MAGnum |
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American or Inhabitant of America ( 1 2 all ) |
 daimyo |
3,474 | 36 | 04/27/05 08:02 PM by looner2 |
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America's Karma? |  Ravus |
989 | 18 | 08/03/05 05:12 PM by Todcasil |
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Going to Japan!!! ( 1 2 3 all ) |
 nicechrisman |
4,709 | 47 | 08/09/04 08:07 PM by nicechrisman |
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Freaked out ( 1 2 all ) |
 Liz |
2,412 | 38 | 05/04/05 02:59 PM by TYL3R |
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