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OfflineLoverofEarth
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Perfection
    #1366022 - 03/11/03 01:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Suppose our purpose in this life were to attain perfection, to become as close as possible in this state of matter to the Universal Father as we could. I think this has dawned on me many many times, but in following this path I feel I would need to re-evaluate my entire life. I am a lazy person, and an undertaking such as this seems monumental. Does anyone feel that our time in this reality is a test? How do you deal with living in a materialistic society while maintaining spiritual goals? Can one survive without taking part in it? I am looking for any particle of knowledge or guidance you can impart.

Much thanks,
loe


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Re: Perfection [Re: LoverofEarth]
    #1375437 - 03/14/03 10:00 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Re-evaluating your life is a good thing. Find out who you are, what you want, and where you are going (without making changes to your life and where you are going if you make changes in your life)
I believe life is what you make of it. What do you want to do? Decide and do it. Don't listen to what other people say. The harder the goal, the harder it is going to be, and the more resistance you'll meet, but the reward is greater.
Enjoy what you are doing ALL the time, no matter what it is you are doing. Make preferences, not addictions.
And ALWAYS, ALWAYS remember that YOU ARE PROVIDED FOR.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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Offline3eyedgod
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Re: Perfection [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1375675 - 03/14/03 11:14 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps....no matter how much fucked up shit happens and our inability to comprehend this.....everything is already perfect.

As an example I read somewhere (something at deoxy maybe). War at one level could be harmony at another. If your immune system didn't fight foreign matter (viruses, bacteria) that come into your body. Then you the organism wouldn't be healthy.

Also of note, though this didn't come from the same source (and I don't remeber where I read this either) is that viruses have contributed to our evolution. Virus have actually made their genetic material part of our own. That is to say they "wrote" their code into ours. When you reproduce you pass along that code. Who knows what effect the contribution of viral gentic material has had on our evolution.

I wish I remebered where I read this last part. I'm realitively sure that it came from a respectable source.


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


Edited by 3eyedgod (03/14/03 11:15 AM)


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Re: Perfection [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1375729 - 03/14/03 11:35 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have come to a similar point in my life...heres what i just posted at another board on the same subject.

The last few times I've tripped(around 5g-7g) in my room in the dark, I lay there thinking. The trips by all means could be considered bad, because the thoughts were all about this wretched society and the government and war and thinking like that did bring some misery. I really didn't consider them bad trips though, I realized thats where i was living, in a materialistic society where people waste their lives working, and stressing out over every little thing. This was bad enough to the point where I nearly wanted to die, because this society seems so incredibly pointless. But my philosophy is that we only have one life to live, it goes against nearly all religions, but i think thats cause the thought of attempting to acheive perfect happiness in only one lifetime is a scary thought. I'm young, and I'm not going to count on faith to give me another chance to acheive perfection in body in mind, so my time is precious. This is why i have stopped drinking, smoking weed, and anything else that dulls the senses from experiencing life. The biggest motivation is my beautiful girlfriend who shares nearly every view on life with me.

I'm a college student, first year, didn't pay for it so if I left I would just not get any credits. This society, this way of life, is just not for me. I can't stand working, I could be learning so much in all that time I waste working. So many people have become so ignorant about a wide variety of things. They waste there time working to get money, and they spend it on superficial things that will just rust away, or on drugs just to get fucked up and forgot how much society really does suck. People have forgotten what is essential for life, and would rather have cool clothes and a cool car than a clean concious.

The only one I can talk to about this in person is my girlfriend, and my best friend. Me and my best friend talk about life all through our classes in college, we sit there and pick apart the pointless things that people have mistaken labeled important. After tripping in the forest, I realized I definitely do not belong in the city. I could easily find/hunt/plant more than enough food for me and my g/f.

I have recently stumbled onto the book Walden by Thoreau. An incredible book, it took Exactly what i have learned from mushrooms about society and put it into words. Its reassuring when your thoughts are confirmed. Definitely worth reading.

To start off my new life, this summer I will be hiking the complete Appalachian trail with my soulmate. Thats like 2,200 miles, from Maine to Georgia, and it will take around 6 months. It will take plenty of preparing, physically and especially mentally, and will cost about $2000. I am a freelance photographer and have went to classes for it, so i will take my 3.3mp digicam and plenty of memory cards to capture the whole trip, not for memories, more of just outdoor beauty. Only around 7,000 people have ever completed this mountainous trail, and I'm fairly positive we shall be the youngest ever to do it. The hike will be absolutely breathtaking, and we won't have to worry about any responsilibility whatsoever.

Who know's what shall happen afterwards. I will probably come home, and go out to the country for a while. At the same time every year a tribe of indians comes to this one field and sets up a small market full of indian clothing/hunting gear/art. I would really love to know where and how they live, and it could teach me much in the way of living off of the land.

For now I shall prepare for this incredibly adventure. Get into better shape, get all the items we will need for a trip, and come July, I will be off to experience life without any other distractions.


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Re: Perfection [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1376438 - 03/14/03 04:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

If your immune system didn't fight foreign matter (viruses, bacteria) that come into your body. Then you the organism wouldn't be healthy.

This is also why us humans have war.



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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Perfection [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1376450 - 03/14/03 04:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Great post Cockyman! I had that same kinda trip a while ago.  :smirk:

I hate working too, not that I'm lazy or anything, but it seems like a waste of time to me. I think I might just go live on some island somewhere where I can medate all day long.



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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Perfection [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1376654 - 03/14/03 06:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You've inspired me. I've got to save a dog from the SPCA. I need someone who understands and accepts me too.

Does cannabis really dull the senses though? I've always thought it ehances more than dulls your senses. I think it is much more beneficial if the user is in great physical health (not me for sure) I'll amokw and subsequently notice my vast array of problems. It's a painful wake up call. And I tell myself I can hit snooze one more day. Just make some more cash, bide some time, you'll be alright when you aren't surrounded by this shit anymore. Would I lie to myself?  :smirk: 


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Re: Perfection [Re: LoverofEarth]
    #1378907 - 03/15/03 07:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

This is exactly how i think. I would love to just live of the land. I would still want electricity and water and all that kind of stuff tho :/ Technology is kind of important to me. But other than that im not a fan of this society. I would love to just live in the mountains of Switzerland...grow and breed my own food. and just live in peace and harmony. But....i just dont know how to go about making this dream come alive. I feel i need some sort of guidane. I have no money...and college is not going very well. I might make $100 a week at work. But i just dont see how im going to come up with the mean to even live out my dream. If anyone has any ideas to give me to jsut throw something out there for me to think about i would appreciate it. I meditated for 5 hours strait the other night on this and on my next mushroom trip i will think about this to see if i can come up with some kind of realization. Maby i can meet someone with the same ideas and morals so we can work together...as of right now im just tredding through life as best i can :/


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Love like you never been hurt.

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Re: Perfection [Re: Vulture]
    #1380124 - 03/16/03 08:11 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Cannabis really doesnt dull your senses that much, it enhances them in certain ways, but it definitely clouds up my mind greatly when it comes to thinking.


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Re: Perfection [Re: LoverofEarth]
    #1380157 - 03/16/03 08:22 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

It's a painful wake up call. And I tell myself I can hit snooze one more day. 





i was doin that.  but i think my alarm broke, so im gonna be asleep for a while...  :frown:  i guess the painful wake up just doesnt have the intensity to stir me.  fuck man, a fucking near fatal car wreck didnt even get me fixing things, just made me lazy.


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we like fuck that, nut sacks in yo mouth
lemme show you what a thug about
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