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I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies
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I realized that epiphanies are about sorting out circumstantial data from metadata with relevance to your life experience. Then I had another epiphany: that the first epiphany I had had was itself a meta-epiphany. Then I had another epiphany: that the epiphany I referred to having in the previous sentence, about meta-epiphanies, was actually a meta-meta-epiphany.

I have this idea: Maybe, when the meta value gets so high that it might as well be infinity, that is the moment that you reach Enlightenment.



That, or Schizophrenia.

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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Haha. I think you've been staring at your avatar too long.


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There is a molecule for every purpose. There are only actions and reactions. Cut out the middle men. Everything I say is a lie.

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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is anyone else tired of the word "meta" yet?  that's so early 2010

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: digitaljosh]
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metadata is data that is inherently devoid of content; it is just a way of organizing content so it can be meaningful

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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well, traditionally these epiphanies are components of jhanas, which are like mega ultra life changing epiphanies, but they are just moments of such extreme concentration and realization that it triggers something in your subconscious belief system which changes the way you perceive everything, as you reach the next level of jhana you reach deeper into your subconscious, until eventually you reach the deepest level of understanding, and become enlightened. By the way, Inception is about the first four jhanas although from more of the view of psychology. I found it pretty interesting cuz Inception put the shore of the mind at the fourth level, which in buddhism is where you go past death and into the natta, or nothingness


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Music, business as usual
Mi' spliff and Guiness as usual
Highgrade we puffin as usual
Fight down the system as usual
The system fight we down as usual
The cops dem a watch we as usual
And a we a watch the cops as usual

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
I realized that epiphanies are about sorting out circumstantial data from metadata with relevance to your life experience.


Can you expand on this?


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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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Loops, Zeno's paradoxes, Bertrand Russell's heads paradox, etc.

There is a neo-physics book called 'I Am A Strange Loop' that explores some of these.

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: Arden]
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I was pretty disappointed by Strange Loop.
It had some good concepts, but I was expecting something deeper.


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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
I was pretty disappointed by Strange Loop.
It had some good concepts, but I was expecting something deeper.


It was treated too much like an autobiography for my tastes, so I ended up skipping around a lot -- as I do with many books that may have good ideas but piss poor penmanship.

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: Arden]
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Arden said:
Loops, Zeno's paradoxes, Bertrand Russell's heads paradox, etc.

There is a neo-physics book called 'I Am A Strange Loop' that explores some of these.


yeah I have read all of Hoftstadter's books except Le Ton Beau de Marot

Godel Escher Bach is my favorite book of all time

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
I was pretty disappointed by Strange Loop.
It had some good concepts, but I was expecting something deeper.


read Godel Escher Bach

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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How does Godel Escher Bach compare to Strange Loop?
Same concepts, explained better?
Different subject entirely?


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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: digitaljosh]
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digitaljosh said:
is anyone else tired of the word "meta" yet?  that's so early 2010


that comment was so meta

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: jimbotron]
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jimbotron said:
digitaljosh said:
is anyone else tired of the word "meta" yet?  that's so early 2010


that comment was so meta


that comment was so meta

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: jimbotron]
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jimbotron said:
digitaljosh said:
is anyone else tired of the word "meta" yet?  that's so early 2010


that comment was so meta


Meta-narratives, lol.


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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
How does Godel Escher Bach compare to Strange Loop?
Same concepts, explained better?
Different subject entirely?


strange loop takes an overview of the core concepts from GEB and relates them in a really personal, informal way that ties in mostly with the subject of psychology

GEB is... indescribable. A 'fully-formed' description of GEB, or meta-GEB, would have to be equally as long as the book, or longer. That is one thing the book will teach you.

its not just a book, its an experience. it has been changing my mind ever since I read it. its still changing my mind today, and i finished it like 1.5 years ago.

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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: morrowasted]
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Sick. My dad's got a copy on a bookshelf upstairs.
I'm on a Jung bent right now, but as soon as that dies down, I think I know what's next on my list.


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Re: I just had an epiphany about having epiphanies [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
Sick. My dad's got a copy on a bookshelf upstairs.
I'm on a Jung bent right now, but as soon as that dies down, I think I know what's next on my list.


Have you managed to read between the lines of The Red Book?

Tell me secrets. I don't feel like playing detective.

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