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mathematical paradox
    #5465986 - 04/01/06 12:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

3 people go into a hotel. the sign says 10$/person/night, so they each pull out 10 1$ bills, and proceed to the counter. after giving 30$ (10X3) to the proprieter, he says to the three, "i've got a deal, one room for 3 for 25$". of course, they take the deal, and now have $5 in change to spread out. being three people, they decide to take 1$ each, and give the manager 2$ as a tip. so, they paid 10$ each, and received 1$ back each, thus they paid 9$/person. plus the 2$ tip, makes 9X3=27+2=29. Where did the last dollar go?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5465997 - 04/01/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They all didn't pay equal amounts if it was $25, they paid $8.33 + $1.00 each. so $9.33 each.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466001 - 04/01/06 12:32 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, from that perspective it works. but if you look at it as they each paid 10$, then got 1$ back each (plus the 2$ tip) - then they paid 10-1=9$ each + 2 = 29$!


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466009 - 04/01/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Is this proven to be a paradox, or should I keep trying to find a way around it :laugh:


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466011 - 04/01/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Stop abusing math!


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466012 - 04/01/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

After the deal they DIDN'T end up paying $9 each..cause if they did they would pay the room for three for $27 and not for the $25 the manager offered.

Technically if they split the $25 with eachother they'd each pay about $8.33, but they didn't split the $25 dollars..they decided to slpit the $5 change.

$1 dollar for each 5-3= 2 the $2 left tips the manager. there is no "last dollar" left.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466013 - 04/01/06 12:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it can be resolved, mathematically, using set-theory. but in terms of normal arithmetic, it stays as a paradox. it just depends on the wording of the whole exchange - as you expalained it, it equals out to 30$, but as i did, a dollar is missing


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466015 - 04/01/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You've been listening to that crazy mystic logic to much in S&P


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466016 - 04/01/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

???

But they didnt pay $9 each, it was $25 total, so they each paid $8.33 (3x8.33 = 25) like triad said, then two of them gave a dollar to the manager (25 + 2 = 27), then had 3 dollars left amongst the three of them, or a dollar a piece. It makes sense.

Edit: much too late with that one I see


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: knowhereman]
    #5466017 - 04/01/06 12:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the manager offered 25$, so 5$ change. to split this up, they took one each, and gave him 2 as a tip. so, looking at the final exchange - they paid 10$ each. they got 1$ back, each. so they paid 9$ each. the manager got 2$ in tip. only 29!


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: knowhereman]
    #5466025 - 04/01/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

In highschool one time for English we had to do a video assignment about and are narrator wore a trench coat and old school hat and whenever he would talk we had nowhereman playing in the background.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466027 - 04/01/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

$25 for the room $2 to the manager. $25+$2= $27

$27 for the room plus $1 for each dude... $3. $27 + $3 = $30


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466028 - 04/01/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The only problem is that it's not possible they all paid equal amounts.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Noetical]
    #5466029 - 04/01/06 12:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466033 - 04/01/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Brandon said:


Edit: much too late with that one I see




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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466035 - 04/01/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You make baby jesus cry when you don't adhere to the laws of mathematics


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466039 - 04/01/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You don't use the 2.... They paid that after the discount so you use each get 1 dollar adds up to 30


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5466046 - 04/01/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466047 - 04/01/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes but, 30 for the room - 5 (to make it 25 for the room) + 3 for each person - so each person is now paying 10-1 + 2 for the manager = 29!


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466049 - 04/01/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with what Triad wrote.

The reasoning of the argument is faulty:

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कृष्ण,LOL said:
so, they paid 10$ each, thus they paid 9$/person
... makes 9X3=27+2=29




They paid $30 as a whole ($10 each). Each individual was given a refund of $1. The whole gave away $2. As a whole they kept $25. There is nothing in the argument that states how they divided up the $25 they paid for the night. Given the background story its reasonable to assume they'd split it equally ($8.33.../each); but given the background info they could just as well divide it unequally. Either way it doesn't matter.

This seems to be a paradox because the narrator flips between assigning certain properties to a group and then to individuals so that the reader confuses these sets (group [the three]/individuals [each one of the group]).



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Where did the last dollar go?





If you pay 30 bucks a night where you're allowed to have three people in the room you're staying at a seedy hotel. Obviously the proprieter stole the last dollar.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Noetical]
    #5466051 - 04/01/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm uh i think the 33 cents each person should have gotten with the $5 back just went to the manager's tip because who wants to carry around 33cents. So the manager got a $2.99 tip?? hmmeeeh?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna] * 1
    #5466053 - 04/01/06 12:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

25 + the managers tip of $2 = $27 plus the 1 dollar each change ($3) = $30


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466058 - 04/01/06 12:50 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, but still - (10-1)X3 +2 = 29. and you can't say that the story can't be looked at by that equation... both describe the situation fully


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466060 - 04/01/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Is this proven to be a paradox, or should I keep trying to find a way around it :laugh:




Paradoxes don't need to be proven. Usually they rely on the stupidity of humans, their seeming paradoxicality, or their ability to deceive perception.

At Dictionary.com you can read (boldface is mine):

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par?a?dox  n.

  1. A seemingly contradictory statement that may nonetheless be true: the paradox that standing is more tiring than walking.
  2. One exhibiting inexplicable or contradictory aspects: ?The silence of midnight, to speak truly, though apparently a paradox, rung in my ears? (Mary Shelley).
  3. An assertion that is essentially self-contradictory, though based on a valid deduction from acceptable premises.
  4. A statement contrary to received opinion.





1. Applies to the first post
2. Applies
3. Does not (the deduction used in the argument is not valid)
4. It seems this applies to, because the received opinion is that it's not a paradox.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466068 - 04/01/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok it dosn't work b/c the 2 dollars were the deal. 9*3= 27 + 3 for the dollar they got back. Or 25+3+2 b/c this is the time frame after. You are mixing 2 differnt parts to the storry a past and a current.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466070 - 04/01/06 12:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can look at that story with that equation, but it's still wrong. :laugh: It's like saying,
1)A man has 2 apples
2)He gives his wife 1 apple
3)2 apples + 1 apple = 3 apples
4)Where did the extra apple come from?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers] * 1
    #5466072 - 04/01/06 12:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the question is not where the last dollar went...but where that one penny went.

8.33 x 3 = 24.99


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466077 - 04/01/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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कृष्ण,LOL said:
Yes, but still - (10-1)X3 +2 = 29. and you can't say that the story can't be looked at by that equation... both describe the situation fully




The 2 is already in the 27. Add 3 not 2.

10x - 1x = 9x X = 3 9X= 27 went to the motel (that includes the $2) Now, add what the dudes kept, $3. 27 +3 = 30


There's no paradox.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466078 - 04/01/06 12:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

कृष्ण,LOL said:
yes, but still - (10-1)X3 +2 = 29. and you can't say that the story can't be looked at by that equation... both describe the situation fully




If you read my refutation of the paradox you'd see that what you state above is not actually contained within the premises of the "paradox". You're interpreting it as that particular equation because you misread the prose.

Math and logics are less vague than prose, don't confuse them.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5466080 - 04/01/06 12:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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the question is not where the last dollar went...but where that one penny went.

8.33 x 3 = 24.99




It's not actually 8.33, but 8.33333333333333 repeated, so it's not really a penny missing, but a fraction of one, which just gets rounded out of existence


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5466082 - 04/01/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yall are on the assumption they paid equally 25/3 is 8.3 repeating so someone had to pay more than the other/s.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466083 - 04/01/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, .99 repeated = 1.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Stonerguy]
    #5466092 - 04/01/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They paid 9 each to avoid the .3333 shit. That's why the motel dude got a tip.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466097 - 04/01/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

x = .99...
10x = 9.99...
10x - x = 9
9x = 9
x = 1

At least I think thats how it goes.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466100 - 04/01/06 01:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

$9 each

two of them threw in for the tip and the other paid the extra buck for the room


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466109 - 04/01/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Triad said:
x = .99...
10x = 9.99...
10x - x = 9
9x = 9
x = 1

At least I think thats how it goes.




10x - x = 10

if x = .99...

then 9x = 8.99,,,


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #5466110 - 04/01/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

oh not this again. this isnt even close to a paradox in any way mathmatically, its just a corrupt use of converting the english language into an equation.

I like what Triad put above, thats an internet forum classic

.9999....=1 , which is true


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466111 - 04/01/06 01:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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You can look at that story with that equation, but it's still wrong. :laugh: It's like saying,
1)A man has 2 apples
2)He gives his wife 1 apple
3)2 apples + 1 apple = 3 apples
4)Where did the extra apple come from?




Yeah, your point is that the logic is faulty. But actually it's like saying:
1) Three men have ten apples each
2) They give all thirty apples to a woman
3) The woman says "keep 5, I only need 25"
4) The men give the woman two of those extra five and keep one each
5) They gave her 25 apples, plus they kept one, and gave her two. 
6) ...One of the apples disappeared. Where did it go?

As you see the set of individual men and the set of the three men as a whole is confused. Since most people don't read very well, logically, or mathmatically, it seems to be a paradox -- the sets are confused and properties are attributed to them which are not logically valid, nor logically implied, in the argument. Reread my previous post.


Or people could read my post, but 'man is blind to truth'.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466119 - 04/01/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Wtf?

10x = 9.99...
x = .99...

9.99.... - 0.99.... = 9?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5466120 - 04/01/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

A few of you have been on to this:

forget the .3333333 part. That doesn't prove or disprove the argument. We don't need to know how the money would be divided between the three to prove that the premises are invalid and contradictory.

For the third time: the problem is in the reader's clumsy interpretation of the "paradox".


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: NickSoapdish]
    #5466122 - 04/01/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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It's not actually 8.33, but 8.33333333333333 repeated, so it's not really a penny missing, but a fraction of one, which just gets rounded out of existence




true...and herein lies where mathematics become less of a concrete thing and more of an abstract thing.

in pure math yes, it splits to 8 and 1/3. but 1/3 can not be completely accurately reflected with money because it is represented in an even based numerical system. so my question stands...in reality...where did the penny go, and why did it go where it went.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5466125 - 04/01/06 01:11 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I know what you are saying. I am just trying to argue my point regardless. (The .99... = 1 point, that is.)


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5466137 - 04/01/06 01:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Lakefingers said:
A few of you have been on to this:

forget the .3333333 part. That doesn't prove or disprove the argument. We don't need to know how the money would be divided between the three to prove that the premises are invalid and contradictory.

For the third time: the problem is in the reader's clumsy interpretation of the "paradox".



:thumbup:


RE: triad

Just reread your post, man. 

I'm done with this thread. 




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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Cowgold]
    #5466139 - 04/01/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

x= 1.11...


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466140 - 04/01/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, that's definitely an interesting point. But it has nothing to do with proving or disproving the content of the first post.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5466152 - 04/01/06 01:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a good paradox if you know integration

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GabrielsHorn.html

The horn shaped object known as gabriels horn. It can hold a finite volume but has an infinte surface area.

I posted this in another thread tonght, I wonder what made it pop in my brain twice today?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Lakefingers]
    #5466160 - 04/01/06 01:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

well I mean, I think it's the same point as the orignal question, just refined to it's lowest abstraction.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: DieCommie]
    #5466162 - 04/01/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

gabriels trumpet is spooky, really.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: DieCommie]
    #5466166 - 04/01/06 01:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Now where did the $1 go on that bad boy ???


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Noetical]
    #5466176 - 04/01/06 01:30 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm about to try to work this problem out in base 3. if I can handle that in my state right now...I'll post it.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5466231 - 04/01/06 01:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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x = .99...
10x = 9.99...
10x - x = 9
9x = 9
x = 1

At least I think thats how it goes.





x = .99...
10x = 9.99...
if x=.99
10x-x = 10(.99)-(.99) = 8.91

this part is wrong...
10x - x = 9
9x = 9
x = 1

9x does not equal 9... 9x = 9(.99) = 8.91


Edited by Delusionz (04/01/06 02:02 AM)


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Delusionz]
    #5466235 - 04/01/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

no that was wrong entirely
I completely fucked that up...I'm drunk as hell


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5466248 - 04/01/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

let me try this again...
Code:

in base three

1002 - 12 = 220 <---that accounts for the deal.

220/10 = 22.1 <---the deal split three ways.

tip = 2

leaving 1 per person or 10 total.

22.1*10 + 10 + 2 = 1002



where is the paradox again? I see all money as accounted for. Of course it is apparently a stipulation that all money must stay in increments of a dollar at least, so this shit is worthless, but it was good practice and fun to do cause I'm a nerd.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Delusionz]
    #5466252 - 04/01/06 02:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see where the hell you guys come up with that from? The whole 8.91 thing.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466256 - 04/01/06 02:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

pi





















think about it


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Tattoo]
    #5466258 - 04/01/06 02:18 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's deep.

9x = 9 (.9999999999999999999999999999 repeated) = 8.99999999999999999 repeated = 9


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5466260 - 04/01/06 02:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I thought you were going to give a shot at that physic defying rusty trombone


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    #5466261 - 04/01/06 02:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you have a lot to learn, and I have a lot to teach


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Triad]
    #5466263 - 04/01/06 02:19 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

e^(i*pi) = -1
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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: DieCommie]
    #5466306 - 04/01/06 02:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I can't get the plug-in to work, but I'm going to take a look at the math...


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    #14768038 - 07/14/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Krishna]
    #14768170 - 07/14/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

the mistake in your situation is that you're adding the 2dollar tip, wrongly. Each of them paid 9dollars: 'a' paid 9 dollars for the room while 'b' and 'c' paid 8 (but each gave a dollar more for the 2dollar tip), so they spent 27dollars. That leaves them with the 3dollars they split.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman] * 1
    #14768224 - 07/14/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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This thread is over 5 years old.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14768242 - 07/14/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There is no extra dollar.

A Pays $10
B Pays $10
C Pays $10
= $30

The manager cuts a deal and they end up with $5 left over.

Each person gets $1 back

$5-$3=$2

That $2 goes to manager as a tip.

:tard:

OR

$25 / 3 people = $8.333
$8.333 + $1 returned = $9.33
$9.333 x 3 people = $28
$28 +$2 tip = $30


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    #14768286 - 07/14/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

physicist said:
Quote:

illusionsofman said:






This thread is over 5 years old.





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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Toltecatl]
    #14768305 - 07/14/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Toltecatl said:
There is no extra dollar.

A Pays $10
B Pays $10
C Pays $10
= $30

The manager cuts a deal and they end up with $5 left over.

Each person gets $1 back

$5-$3=$2

That $2 goes to manager as a tip.

:tard:




Also obvious man.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14768351 - 07/14/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

On the bill, one guy had to bite the bullet and pay an extra cent, on a discount.  $8.34 vs. $8.33.

On the tip, two paid $0.67 and one paid $0.66

That leaves $3 that was split between the three.

But that's if you split it up evenly.  You can split it up any way you want.  Maybe one guy stiffed $2 on the bill that the two others pulled together on, but then paid the whole tip.  Bill: $11x2+$3 tip: guy3-$2


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    #14768367 - 07/14/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Toltecatl said:
There is no extra dollar.

A Pays $10
B Pays $10
C Pays $10
= $30

The manager cuts a deal and they end up with $5 left over.

Each person gets $1 back

$5-$3=$2

That $2 goes to manager as a tip.

:tard:




Also obvious man.





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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Toltecatl]
    #14768582 - 07/14/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

so what is with this time warner comercial in which they show hexagonal arrays and hexagons being superimposed on hexagons and the jack in the box cups showing a vertical chain of hexagons. can you point out the flaw in the new paper. I found flaws in all the papers except this one. can someone point out the flaw.


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman]
    #14774027 - 07/15/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

so can someone point out the flaw in this paper. Do you think this is an authentic paradox? I look over it and cant find the flaw yet


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman]
    #14774160 - 07/15/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Patlal]
    #14792480 - 07/19/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your right my paper is obviously flawed. Ill take a look at the paper in the last post but I dont want to be trolling and I dont have axcess to a computer all the time. would someone like to build an exact model of a dodecahedron and compare it to the volume of a cube that has volume 7.66 using cerial?


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman]
    #14803753 - 07/21/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

calculated just now probably made a mistake


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman]
    #14803813 - 07/21/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

7 years ago..... :trolldance:




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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: Patlal]
    #14803940 - 07/21/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

reply to patal: the large triangle is not a triangle. look at the slopes


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Re: mathematical paradox [Re: illusionsofman]
    #14804298 - 07/21/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

so can someone point out the flaw and if this is a genuine paradox write me a check for a billion dollars. Im not doing math problems for money but I figure if I proove our understanding of space is inconsistant it would be nice to have a billion dollars


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