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new AA941 need advice.
    #13336219 -

I FINALLY DID IT!!!!!

i just got an AA941:whoo:  so i've got a few questions about it that aren't in the book.

1 - how much water do you use for a 90 min and 120 min run. 2"? the book says at least 1 1/2" or as per recipie, but i dont think they run 90 - 120 min to can tomato sauce.

2 - it looks as if i can fit up to 4 large spawn bags of sawdust blocks and a ton (19) qt jars. now i've always done 60 - 90 min for wbs jars in a 16qt with 7 jars. do i need to increase the time becausse of more jars/mass?

im gonna go clean this puppy and i've got wbs ready to break my AA941 cherry. wish me luck.:super:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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1. an inch and a half of water should do just fine for a 90 minute run, they don't lose much water

2. 90 minutes should be fine even with any amount of jars or bags

Enjoy your AA, I know I love mine.


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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DONT forget to lubricate the rim with vaseline or similar before using it!

I recommend upgrading to a "Part 65 - Pressure Control Valve (aka toggle valve)" from the aa parts dealer. It simply replaces the weight tube by unscrewing it and screwing in the part 65. Using this instead of the weight, you can use much less water in the cooker and it doesnt vent any  steam while it operates. Therefore you can run the cooker forever on a liter of water. Plus it operates much more quiet and youc an choose your pressure by adjusting the heat all the way from 1 to 22psi.

But for using it stock, 2" of water would be plenty.


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: sandman420]
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thanx guys shes runnin now. i don't like the wire rings, it makes  the jars wanna tip over. is there a way to remedy that? i.e. do they make a 15" plate? you know what i mean?


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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oh yours came with a wire rack? My 941 had a "solid"  piece of aluminum for the bottom rack thingy. Im sure you can find something that will work. Maybe try a Goodwill type of place that has a bunch of used kitchen junk.


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: sandman420]
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so after my first run the inside of the pot turned black like 6" up from the bottom as if there were 6" of water ( liquid ) that stained it but there was only 1 1/2 ". i scrubbed well but it seems to be the aluminium changed color, not a "stain" persay :shrug: i've ran  5-6 loads ( all jars ) in it since without any other issues. the black staining is still there and seems to be fading in a couple spots.

anyone else experience this? what could i have done?

also i'll be doing my first run of lg filterpatch bags with sawdust substrates tomorrow. any advice or safety tips would be great.

:thanx:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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Awesome dude ya got an AA, welcome to the club my fwen:grin:

I use a standard size water or juice pitcher filled to just below the spout for every 60 minutes.
I ran my AA 930 for 60 min with the above volume of water and was dangerously close to running out.

the "shadow" or stain changes each pc run depending on the leval of water you use, at least for me it does. I always spray iso alcohal below the stain line to help with drying, if you notice....there are grooves on the inside like it was spun in the fabrication, I think it may be for a more uniform heating but I could be way off base here.

you got the big AA NICE!


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Barakanaten]
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ok so the dicoloration is normal then? good cause half the reason i was able to finally get this is that my 16qt presto started to get some pitting in the bottom. apparently this can occour on aluminium when left in contact with water and metal. i used to rinse everything (rings, plate, etc) and let air dry in the pot. bad idea:hissyfit: i might call presto and try to get somthing out of them but whatever.

yeah i had to go big. see this is why i don't like buying things on line. i got mine at a local feed and seed. i could have saved like $30-60 on ebay or amazon and i did shop around quite a bit and found some really low shipping charges, but i had a ton of spawn ready for g2g and already started wbs soaking so while looking at them at the feedandseed i noticed that the 930 and 941 are the same hight. i have a microwave/hood over the stove thats too low for either one so if i gotta cut down the cabinet above for this i'll make it worth it. i'm a cabinet maker so no big deal really taking the microwave down is the hardest part.

also i really wanted the extra width to handle sawdust blocks better. i'm prepping for some now. isould be able to get 4 lg in there, mabey more.

now i want the electric one so i can get out the kitchen. maybey when i get a bigger house..........well, i can dream, can't i?

:flowerchild:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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artizen said:
i have a microwave/hood over the stove thats too low for either one so if i gotta cut down the cabinet above for this i'll make it worth it. i'm a cabinet maker so no big deal really taking the microwave down is the hardest part.

:flowerchild:



:lmafo: I just skated by on that one.


Also I heard that AA is really good about replacement parts and stuff.
I was wondering if you had the repair number in the manual if ya have it handy?
I broke the wingnut, it wouldn't loosen up so I wrapped a potholder for cushion as to not have metal to the bakelite material touching and cranked on it with a pipe wrench:facepalm2: it was really warm and I had just got through a 90 min pc cycle


I actually cooked a ham on bone great northern and navy bean soup in it....there was a crusted layer on the bottom (burnt) and while I was cleaning it out there were very very tiny pits but nothing I am alarmed about I guess...hmmm now that i think about it i am going to inspect further...lol


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Barakanaten]
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This is why the manual says to never, ever, ever use any kind of tool to tighten a wingnut on a AA. If handtight isnt sealing then you're not doing it right.


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
    #13477429 -

I can't help you with your questions but I am really glad to see you back my friend. Great purchase for your oysters :super:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: sandman420]
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sandman420 said:
This is why the manual says to never, ever, ever use any kind of tool to tighten a wingnut on a AA. If handtight isnt sealing then you're not doing it right.



lol I know, I was actually trying to loosen it after a pc run, it was just stuck and I was impatient.
I really wish I had the manual...lol its burried in a bunch of stuff out of town.

for the longest time I also couldn't figure out why the damn
thing wouldn't open after a pc run.. :facepalm: then it hits me...how many times have I heard RR mention Vaseline around the seal:lol:

Put a little bit on my finger while the rim was warm, it was like butta baby!
Just like they do it downtown :lol:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Barakanaten]
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don't know if you can blow these up but what the hell.

wisconsin aluminium foundr co., inc. customer service dept.
p.o. box 246 - 1931 south 14th street - manitowoc, wisconsin 54221-0246
phone: (920) 682-8627 - fax: (920) 682-4090
email: customerrelations@wafco.com - website: store.wafco.com (no www.)

part# 64  bakelite wing nut (630020)  $6.80

:super:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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Nice!

Thank you very much.

That little task has been on a "honey do" list for a few days or so.

:thanx:

Enjoy your new AA941 and the extra width for blocks :jealous: :lol:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Barakanaten]
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yeah i'm just starting now. :facepalm: i was supposed to do it earlier but the wood chips i had were chunks so like the cheap idiot i am i sat arround for hours with a hatchet chopping pieces the size of a softball into thumb size pieces. it was a beautiful day and i needed some fresh air and sunshine anyway.


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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:lol:

Don't you love it when we make things harder for our selves? I seem to be doing that a lot lately...:lol:


all that cutting sounds like something for the fein tool:super:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
    #13491757 -

artizen said:


don't know if you can blow these up but what the hell.

wisconsin aluminium foundr co., inc. customer service dept.
p.o. box 246 - 1931 south 14th street - manitowoc, wisconsin 54221-0246
phone: (920) 682-8627 - fax: (920) 682-4090
email: customerrelations@wafco.com - website: store.wafco.com (no www.)

part# 64  bakelite wing nut (630020)  $6.80

:super:





Thank you much kind sir :hatsoff:

I just sent them an Email asking for a replacement part with
return shipping envelope and shipping label.:grin:

We'll see how it goes :super:


EDIT:____________________

So I emailed them this at 7:30am

I have attached a picture of the damage and a receipt of purchase.

I adore my AA930 and would like a replacement part please.

The part I need is  part# 64  bakelite wing nut (630020) as shown in the photo.

I cannot ship it to you first. Is there a way you could send me the replacement part and and a return shipping envelope and shipping label?

Thank you much.


They responded at 11:30am thats 4hrs! pretty quick if ya ask me.

We will mail a wing nut at no charge today; no need to return the broken wing nut.  We apologize for this problem.

Customer Relations
Wisconsin Aluminum Foundry Co., Inc.
PO Box 246
1931 South 14th Street
Manitowoc, WI  54221-0246

Ph:  920-686-2701
Fax:  920-682-4090
email:  customerrelations@wafco.com

www.allamerican-chefsdesign.com


Beat that Presto!....haha j/k :peace: to all you P23 owners out there.



thanks again for the info:shineon:


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Edited by Barakanaten (11/27/10 10:22 AM)

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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: artizen]
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Hey Artizen,

I just wanted to let you know what I found out about water lvls in the AA.

Up-thread I had mentioned that I use 1 standard water pitcher of h20 (2 1/2 quarts) for every Hour of Pc'ing...

Well I had never had it "full" and also It seems I was running it too hot.

My weight set on 15psi and on an element style burner was "rocking" for the whole cycle and I was loosing a lot of water content "steam"

I re read some of RR advice on how to properly run the AA and since following his advice my weight rocks every couple of minutes and still stays at pressure.

two of the standard water pitchers comes just up to the shoulder of the bottom tier of (jars 7 Jars)

I think this is a little much and will reduce it down, as when running the AA properly, the water loss from steam is minimal.

sorry for the bad info, I guess I was still learning my equipment.

Thanks for all your help and see ya around:sunny:


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Barakanaten]
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I have an AA930 and it uses a lot more water than any  of my past smaller PCs so I have been puting a wet rag over the rocker weight which solved the problem. It works so much better than without it. It's not heavy enough to defeat the safety features, but it is enough to make it work better. Before I could just barely do a batch of jars for 90 mins without running out of water. Many times I did run out. I'm going to get that valve mentioned by Sandman. That sounds like the shit. Congrats on the new 941! They are awesome!........MM


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Re: new AA941 need advice. [Re: Mr Mycoman]
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the manual is def your best friend right now

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