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Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep?
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cant help but draw a connection to video game music/noises and our generation of electronic dub/downtempo/DNB/house/etc


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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Sounds about right to me :thumbup:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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I don t think  video games are directly responsible, but they no doubt play a part as a dominant aspect of modern creative/artistic expression, the various mediums no doubt influence one another.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: The_Ghost]
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Do you guys remember contra for super nintendo? Contra II alien wars... That had some bad ass music.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Maurer]
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I love video games and video games music. I think Dubstep is boring as fuck...


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Rocker232]
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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: StaleShrooms]
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:hehehe:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thoughts] * 1
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if only you had said electronic music and not dubstep (which is clearly more influenced by.. dub music)

i would have agreed with you completely.

i am listen to dkc music right now on youtube... nostalgia is... evil...

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Rocker232]
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Rocker232 said:
I love video games and video games music. I think Dubstep is boring as fuck...


Me too. I am definitely not a fan of dubstep although I am a video game addict.

Video game music sounds nothing like dubstep to me. :lol:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Tetriana]
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*puts on earthbound - prayer for saftey*

gigyas will soon yet be defeated.  :sadyes:



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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: StaleShrooms]
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first of all
StaleShrooms said:



^that.
was the funniest thing i've ever seen.

secondly:

turn the bass all the way up. reminds me of playing zelda.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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Aren't video games much more popular than electronic dub/downtempo/DNB/house/etc?


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: badchad]
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aren't video games now unable to touch on what influence they gave artists in the past to do electronic music?

i would say that's my opinion... :yesnod:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: badchad]
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i'd say equivilent actually


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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I guess it's difficult to quantitate how popular something is.  I don't see the mass appeal of dubstep like I do video games.  It's not on the typical measures of mass popularity (billboard album charts, album sales, etc.).

I'm sure I'm missing something.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: badchad]
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i wish dubstep was a figment of my imagination.

maybe then there wouldn't be this confusion about what it's equivalent to... which is nothing.

:facepalm:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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It comes down to correlation vs causation... Someone should use this for a research study

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: TM2443]
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here is some dub



dubstep is clearly a jerk of the chain of dub.

but combining it with electronica production... which with the way dubstep sounds... is CLEARLY a...

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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it is so much more than just dub my friend

EDM is so many types of music

to throw yourself on the dance floor saying you loves "DUBSTEP ONLY" you're probably an asshat.


i listen to a variety of real music:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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i said that dubstep (i am hating that word more and more now) is from dub... not EDM.

EDM has... everything from world music... to disco... to... dude you misconstrued what i said. <3 Electronica

oh and clearly... the production of dubstep is queermo.. and by that i mean.... bad.


i mean like... wtf are these people thinking bad... like all those womps and shit... all blocking out the meldey that's trying to come through!1 faggot-ass production!111111

Edited by akira_akuma (10/06/10 10:58 AM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Can you hear the video game sounds in this song? :yesnod:



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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Computerism]
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dubstep came out of the DNB scene in UK btw

not all of it is wobbles and glitches also btw

classic and massive dubstep tune:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Computerism]
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yep.

it keeps revving up that sawtooth wave even during the snare rushes.


AntiEverything said:
dubstep came out of the DNB scene in UK btw

not all of it is wobbles and glitches also btw

classic and massive dubstep tune:



it sounds just like dub to me... except the bass... (which in dub, would be an actually bass sample) and the fact that it has streamlined composition for purposes of dancing in a 4/4 rhythm.

i have heard way worse of this dubstep stuff though...

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Tetriana]
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Tetriana said:
Rocker232 said:
I love video games and video games music. I think Dubstep is boring as fuck...


Me too. I am definitely not a fan of dubstep although I am a video game addict.

Video game music sounds nothing like dubstep to me. :lol:


What's the style of games you like? My girl is HUGE on RPG's, very detail oriented.

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Razzl3Frazzl3]
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dub step came out of UK garage but any who...


megaman was totally always taking E and listening to that robot music


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
dub step came out of UK garage but any who...




yeah... which is a mixer and and some mixes of instruments. it's also how dub started... lol

ok; question...

what makes this...

grime or whatever... and not dubstep?

ok nevermind... it's just a question of where it comes from i guess... :shrug: but it all sounds like slightly better and refurbished hip-hop to me.

and by slightly better... i mean by the standards of shit we have as todays hip-hop... which shouldn't even be called hip-hop but like i said before... WHATEVER,I SUPPOSE.

Edited by akira_akuma (10/06/10 12:05 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Chiptune




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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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I don't think so. Most video game songs are composed about 100 times better than the mass of electronic music. They were just forced to work with limited resources.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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the mass of electronic music sucks... so, you'd be right by rating video game music 100x better composed.

:yesnod:

who hears the game in this?



Edited by akira_akuma (10/06/10 01:03 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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lol refurbished hip hop totally


any who im sick of all the damn dubstep remixes of shit like this





this is wayyyy betterrr




OC remixes artists are better then the people making all the money in UK and here lol with dubstep


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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i always got reminded of music from the 70 when playing the final fantasy games, actualy the other way around, i hear on song on the radio like the stones or ozzy and i hear certain riffs that i could swear ive heard something similar in a game


also i think it was command and concur or a similar computer game stole a dungoen music from ff4, i was astonished when someone showed me that

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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It's possible there's an influence (especially in chiptunes), but just like any music the progression has all sorts of roots.

Personally video game music always reminded me of people trying to make 16 bit math rock.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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uhhhhhh i dont know man u tell me





and that shpongle song "The Nebbish Route" totally sounds like crash bandicoot


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Envix]
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Yup, and video games must have influenced rag music too.

Specifically making a song to sound like video games isn't the same. Plus I'm not saying the influence doesn't exist, just saying it's hardly the reason dubstep existed (as someone already pointed out it's called dubstep because dub is somehow the biggest influence).


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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"video game music" is a pretty general term. I hate electronic music and dubstep, but a lot of video game music is very well composed and has nothing to do with the above genres. I'm a classical/metal fan, and there are a handful of sountracks I listen to on a regular basis. My personal favorite...

Medievil

Gallowmere Waltz


Unfortunaly not all of it is this good, but there was a time when developers concentrated on making some really good tunes to go with the games...

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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What a bunch of shitty music :nonono:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: niteowl]
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Yeah yeah shake yer fuckin' cane and tell us to get off our lawn.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: niteowl]
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They both evolved at the same time. 

It's a matter of technology  not the games and music based on it.

IMO


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Shins]
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:oldman:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: niteowl]
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wait, so far no one has adressed the topic at hand:

did video games make our(my) generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep

im just talking about kids like me, who used to play video games, who are now into dubstep, i've noticed there's a lot


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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well music makes you feel thangs by working your intuition so it would make sense that people who grew up with video games would be more in tune with this kind of music


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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Which essentially asks why most types of music exist. They are made and listened to by people of a relatively similar age. I think it's safe to assume people who make music and people who listen to their music have common interests and influences.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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I just finished an undergrad research project about stereotypes concerning African immigrants vs african americans. I wish I'd read this post sooner so I could steal your idea for my research :awehigh:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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not dub but new age dance w00t
:dj:

song is so sick
getttt downnn

moar:

^idk about this one its a lil tooo ill i think :wink: the rest of major lazer is weak unless its live


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
wait, so far no one has adressed the topic at hand:

did video games make our(my) generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep

im just talking about kids like me, who used to play video games, who are now into dubstep, i've noticed there's a lot


Well to elaborate on my previous point, no I don't think so. A lot of music in video games is very well composed. Yes it loops, but only the sense that there are limitations placed on how long a song can actually be when applied to many different game levels, all of which can last anywhere from a minute to an hour or more. If you cut off video game compositions at the point where they loop a lot of them stand alone as solid 2-4 minute songs. In the past, they had to be done in midi because of data limitations (as well as budget). Now there's a lot of games where the music is recorded by actual orchestras. Final Fantasy is a perfect example of this, where you can see common themes in the music, a natural progression, and how the quality of it grows through console generations. It has become more expansive and sophisticated. Nobuo Uematsu is also a genius and I find it laughable to compare some of these DJs to him.

Electronic music on the other hand makes purposeful use of computers and evolved with the emergence of new technologies. Whereas with video games it was somewhat of a regression of tools available. Electronic music and video games are worlds apart. Some of it (electronic music) is great and the composers/DJs really know their shit. Dubstep on the other hand is one of the most boring genres I've ever heard. Whether you're into it or not (I don't really care- to each their own), it is no where near as sophisticated musically.

I think yes there's a common link that can be made between how the 2 types of music evolved as a product of the era, but I don't really see them as being similar at all.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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I see people from all ages here on free parties;

All listening to crazy electronic music. It's not age-based, perhaps for some it's a fad for other people it's just the music.

I can't really relate this to videogames. Chiptune/8bit music I can, and it's quite funny (because I grew up with videogames)

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Alien, weird bass sounds = :heart:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Beanhead]
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lol yeah id only listen to major lazer live if i was Ked out my mind and had bitch to grind on. lol i saw major lazer, bassnectar then the discobuscuits it was so fucking ill


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Beanhead]
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I'm posting another track from medievil because dubstep sucks hard, and so does most of the other crap in this thread. Not to mention the o.p's question is speculative at best. I played mad video games as a kid (i'm in my 20's) and I play and listen to metal/classical music.

In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit. Now this music owns your soul...


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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He never said playing video games makes you like dubstep, he's asking if there's a connection between the two. I think it's a legitimate question.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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Subconscious said:
In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit.



thats probably because you haven't heard the best dubstep




but i agree that one midievil song is killer soul-consuming


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Edited by Envix (10/06/10 06:05 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


1. Dubstep is just one branch of electronic music. If we look at electronic music as a whole I don't see what correlation there is to be drawn. Both have evolved along similar timelines and subsequently have grown in popularity over the past few decades. But as I described, the musical themes are very different, they simply shared a set of tools in the past.

2. I don't think all video game music is amazing, in fact most of it is probably bad. Nor does the quality of Final Fantasy as a game have anything to do with whether or not I like the music. But comparing Nobuo's compositions to Dubstep is like comparing Mozart to N'sync.

People enjoy it for what it's worth and I'm fine with that. Dancing, relaxing, frying, whatever. But they're completely different realms of music IMO.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
Subconscious said:
In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit.



thats probably because you haven't heard the best dubstep




I can't tell if this was a serious comment.

That shit sucked. Good one though.

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
i'd say equivilent actually


Not even close. Out of 10 people most will play video games, few will listen to Dubstep (if any at all).


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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He never compared dubstep to Nobuo, you did. I think it's pretty obvious his compositions aren't really where the connection would be.

NES, SNES, and Sega games are closer to what would come to mind, and like most people my age and a little older (the same age as most producers of dubstep) that's what we grew up playing and hearing. 16 bit tunes glitching out of my tiny non-flat screen TV from my brother's NES, not full fledged orchestras blasting out of my 42" TV connected to my PS3 via HDMI.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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wtf that isnt even dubstep thats dnb thats more breakcore like ...


but yeah good dubstep is hard to find


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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i think its fun to listen to and try to pick up on all the different sounds used in this type of music. it's like there's so many sounds. it's really not about melody with this type of music but the vast range of unique sounds and that kinda thang gives me a stiffy

i like all music though


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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Final Fantasy started on NES no? I was just using that example as an extreme of how well composed something can be in a limited medium. Even Mario or Megaman or Donkey Kong in the NES/SNES era were way more melodic than anything I've heard in dubstep. If you analyze them side by side, they're miles apart to me. That's the point I've been trying to make. I don't find those songs to be repetitive or glitchy at all. At least not in the same manner as electronic/dubstep.

And I'm not trying to hate on electronic music either. I'm not a fan of dubstep, but some of it is good to me. As a musician though I view them as entirely different styles of music that shared a common tool at one point. It's like asking me if I like every form of rock music because I play guitar. Yes maybe DJs are influenced to a degree by the emergence of digital music- of course they are. But I don't think there's a strong correlation between gaming and dubstep/whatever.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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F0SS1L said:
AntiEverything said:
1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


1. Dubstep is just one branch of electronic music. If we look at electronic music as a whole I don't see what correlation there is to be drawn. Both have evolved along similar timelines and subsequently have grown in popularity over the past few decades. But as I described, the musical themes are very different, they simply shared a set of tools in the past.

2. I don't think all video game music is amazing, in fact most of it is probably bad. Nor does the quality of Final Fantasy as a game have anything to do with whether or not I like the music. But comparing Nobuo's compositions to Dubstep is like comparing Mozart to N'sync.

People enjoy it for what it's worth and I'm fine with that. Dancing, relaxing, frying, whatever. But they're completely different realms of music IMO.


im confused. yes obviously nobuos music is in a completely different realm.  (comparison's are odious) thusly your comparison makes no sense.

you don't really understand what i'm even talking about. so i'll just give up, there is no clash to this argument. you are comparing nobuou vs dubstep and correlating all of electronic music to video game music. i was trying to correlate the popularity of dubstep for my generation to the popularity of video gamez when i was a kid.

also it's just your opinion that his final fantasy music has more depth and is more sophisticated....instrumentally, yes it's very intricate, but it means nothing to me....take a song like this:

this to me defines what it feels like to be my age in the current world situation that we live in. grimey, polluted, corrupt, digital noises, futuristic sounds, slow beat, urban feel......idk just feels so right to me.


final fantasy music says nothing at all to me :shrug:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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I never said FF started anywhere. I just think it's a bit wild to compare dubstep to orchestral music since the very nature of how they are created is completely different. So why even pick an extreme. Shit the point wasn't even to compare the musicality of video game tunes and dubstep. It was asking if our generation finds dubstep interesting because of video games. You can't deny that there are commonalities between early video game music and some of the glitchier dubstep artists, specifically the very easy to notice timbre of both.

Personally I find the drums to be kinda similar in sound and a lot of the melodies too. Like I said earlier I don't think the connection actually exists, but I don't think they sound too far off and it seems to be a legit question. I don't see why people are so offended by it. Hell, there is a whole subgenre of dubstep dedicated to "16 bit", think that has nothing to do with video games?




Ignore the wobs, those obviously aren't the similarity.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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If you're asking, do I (or anyone) as a listener like electronic/dubstep music because I grew up with video games my answer is still no. I like that music because I grew up in an era of emerging electronic music. It's always been there. Like I said, they share somewhat similar timelines. And my point about VG compositions is that they were never meant be electronic songs, that's just a medium they were forced into. I think electronic music as a genre evolved separately on its own accord. Do you see what I'm saying?


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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http://vgmusic.com/




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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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I'm not too familiar with video game music, but how were they not meant to be electronic music?

I mean it's not like the composers were surprised when they found out what it was going to be made with/on, so they knew. I thought the idea was to make suitable and good music with the tools they had. The tools were electronic. Unless they were composing pieces and then making arrangements for video games.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said:
I'm not too familiar with video game music, but how were they not meant to be electronic music?

I mean it's not like the composers were surprised when they found out what it was going to be made with/on, so they knew. I thought the idea was to make suitable and good music with the tools they had. The tools were electronic. Unless they were composing pieces and then making arrangements for video games.


Well to be fair I think that's too general of a statement for me to make. For something like say Tetris you don't really expect much besides repetitive background noise. In Mario there's more of an actual soundtrack. Most of these songs were probably written on piano and then rewritten as MIDI tracks.

Anyways, I think I actually answered the OPs question in my previous post. Am I still offbase here?


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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mario the guy actually used a guitar i watched the back story on it.

aside from that DJ venom made a good tetris remix. any one else like Dj venom im glad he isnt playing dubstep but he is playing that damn electro these days


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
mario the guy actually used a guitar i watched the back story on it.


I find that hard to believe considering Koji Kondo is a pianist.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Acaterpillar]
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in it you saw the funny little jap man playing it on a guitar but yeah he is a pianist


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
i think its fun to listen to and try to pick up on all the different sounds used in this type of music. it's like there's so many sounds. it's really not about melody with this type of music but the vast range of unique sounds and that kinda thang gives me a stiffy

i like all music though


That's the way to go, I like raves/festivals where there is a more broad offer of music (and really the electronic spectrum goes far)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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i would say no. 

House came from Disco, DnB came from regge and hip hop, ect.

its all a natural progression.  I remember reading A letter from a composer in the late 1800's and he was like
"fuck, i wish i lived in the future because i bet they'll have electronic instruments that can do so much more than what we can do now".

Electronic music is popular because it sounds good, because you have much more control and can do things humans haven't been able to do.

If video game music influenced anything we'd all be listening to 8bit music.  But we're not all dueche's.

I think I've yearned to listen to dark robot music since I was born.  I was just waiting for it to be made.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: truekimbo2]
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Yeah that's kind of what I was trying to get at, it's a progression of things. Like I said, I think it evolved on it's own accord and people liked it and the popularity grew. It's just coincidental that a lot of us grew up with video games around the same time.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: truekimbo2]
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FEEL IT :rave:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Beanhead]
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i love that granturismo had psytrance in it i totally had all the psytrance tracks on my list of songs it would play and later learned oh that was psytrance no wonder i like it now that i know what it is


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
What a bunch of shitty music :nonono:


this is something we agree one 100%.

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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thedudeNJ

i was at that major lazer show also

wasn't it fucking out of control?
bassnectar + more acid + more mdma + sex afterwards was :awebig:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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also



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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: GreenMachine]
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i think this might  be the group that first got me interested in the dubstepy sound




they're particularly heavy and i'm interested to hear what heavy metal fans think of this type of music





others may not be able to see the potentiality in this kind of music but i feel it expands horizons on like a futuristic level. i've always been a fan of orchestral music. deep, voluminous music with lots and lots of different instruments/sounds that put you in an entirely different world. and this dark atonal quality i'm attracted to i think because i'm a fan of david lynch and steve reich. i seriously get like synesthesia when different elements of sound/music are combined in a certain way and its :awecid:

i'm also all for melodic stuff too. nobue uematsu was my greatest influence w/ piano playing


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
http://vgmusic.com/


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that was my favourite video game when i was little


i sold my nes and all my games for 20 buck:sad:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: hidenseek]
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I think video games and the like had alot to do with our love for electronic, idk about dubstep, most video game music esp the earlier shit was super fast, like that oldschool 8bit goodness, none of that is anything near dubstep. but techno and electro sure I can see that connection defintely


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: snoot]
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do do do dodododo dduh dduh duhh do da nuh nuh nee naaaa nuh nuhnuhnuh do do dododo!

iguess right! my memory still serves me well... it's METAL MAN!

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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this is whats up !!!!


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
cant help but draw a connection to video game music/noises and our generation of electronic dub/downtempo/DNB/house/etc


that's ridiculous. It is possible, but I grew up on videogame music and nothing has contributed to the freedom of my musical creativity quite as much


the videogame music I like is full of complex melodies and harmonies, unique instrumentation, imaginative

it's also a lot closer to either classical or jazz than those genres

well....this is a little too recent to be what I "grew up" on, but here's one of my favs



and here's a few I guess I "grew up on"







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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
do do do dodododo dduh dduh duhh do da nuh nuh nee naaaa nuh nuhnuhnuh do do dododo!

iguess right! my memory still serves me well... it's METAL MAN!


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Devlish2]
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man sometimes i could swear i hear some megaman sound effects in with dubstep/electronic music when i listen to it on mushies/:cactuar:



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