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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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well music makes you feel thangs by working your intuition so it would make sense that people who grew up with video games would be more in tune with this kind of music


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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Which essentially asks why most types of music exist. They are made and listened to by people of a relatively similar age. I think it's safe to assume people who make music and people who listen to their music have common interests and influences.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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I just finished an undergrad research project about stereotypes concerning African immigrants vs african americans. I wish I'd read this post sooner so I could steal your idea for my research :awehigh:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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not dub but new age dance w00t
:dj:

song is so sick
getttt downnn

moar:

^idk about this one its a lil tooo ill i think :wink: the rest of major lazer is weak unless its live


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
wait, so far no one has adressed the topic at hand:

did video games make our(my) generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep

im just talking about kids like me, who used to play video games, who are now into dubstep, i've noticed there's a lot


Well to elaborate on my previous point, no I don't think so. A lot of music in video games is very well composed. Yes it loops, but only the sense that there are limitations placed on how long a song can actually be when applied to many different game levels, all of which can last anywhere from a minute to an hour or more. If you cut off video game compositions at the point where they loop a lot of them stand alone as solid 2-4 minute songs. In the past, they had to be done in midi because of data limitations (as well as budget). Now there's a lot of games where the music is recorded by actual orchestras. Final Fantasy is a perfect example of this, where you can see common themes in the music, a natural progression, and how the quality of it grows through console generations. It has become more expansive and sophisticated. Nobuo Uematsu is also a genius and I find it laughable to compare some of these DJs to him.

Electronic music on the other hand makes purposeful use of computers and evolved with the emergence of new technologies. Whereas with video games it was somewhat of a regression of tools available. Electronic music and video games are worlds apart. Some of it (electronic music) is great and the composers/DJs really know their shit. Dubstep on the other hand is one of the most boring genres I've ever heard. Whether you're into it or not (I don't really care- to each their own), it is no where near as sophisticated musically.

I think yes there's a common link that can be made between how the 2 types of music evolved as a product of the era, but I don't really see them as being similar at all.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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I see people from all ages here on free parties;

All listening to crazy electronic music. It's not age-based, perhaps for some it's a fad for other people it's just the music.

I can't really relate this to videogames. Chiptune/8bit music I can, and it's quite funny (because I grew up with videogames)

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Alien, weird bass sounds = :heart:

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Beanhead]
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lol yeah id only listen to major lazer live if i was Ked out my mind and had bitch to grind on. lol i saw major lazer, bassnectar then the discobuscuits it was so fucking ill


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Beanhead]
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I'm posting another track from medievil because dubstep sucks hard, and so does most of the other crap in this thread. Not to mention the o.p's question is speculative at best. I played mad video games as a kid (i'm in my 20's) and I play and listen to metal/classical music.

In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit. Now this music owns your soul...


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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He never said playing video games makes you like dubstep, he's asking if there's a connection between the two. I think it's a legitimate question.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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Subconscious said:
In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit.



thats probably because you haven't heard the best dubstep




but i agree that one midievil song is killer soul-consuming


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knock a hoe out this dimension, continue my ascension
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Edited by Envix (10/06/10 06:05 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


1. Dubstep is just one branch of electronic music. If we look at electronic music as a whole I don't see what correlation there is to be drawn. Both have evolved along similar timelines and subsequently have grown in popularity over the past few decades. But as I described, the musical themes are very different, they simply shared a set of tools in the past.

2. I don't think all video game music is amazing, in fact most of it is probably bad. Nor does the quality of Final Fantasy as a game have anything to do with whether or not I like the music. But comparing Nobuo's compositions to Dubstep is like comparing Mozart to N'sync.

People enjoy it for what it's worth and I'm fine with that. Dancing, relaxing, frying, whatever. But they're completely different realms of music IMO.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Envix]
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Envix said:
Subconscious said:
In summary, I was a huge gamer as a kid and think dubstep is lame as shit.



thats probably because you haven't heard the best dubstep




I can't tell if this was a serious comment.

That shit sucked. Good one though.

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: AntiEverything]
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AntiEverything said:
i'd say equivilent actually


Not even close. Out of 10 people most will play video games, few will listen to Dubstep (if any at all).


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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He never compared dubstep to Nobuo, you did. I think it's pretty obvious his compositions aren't really where the connection would be.

NES, SNES, and Sega games are closer to what would come to mind, and like most people my age and a little older (the same age as most producers of dubstep) that's what we grew up playing and hearing. 16 bit tunes glitching out of my tiny non-flat screen TV from my brother's NES, not full fledged orchestras blasting out of my 42" TV connected to my PS3 via HDMI.


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: Subconscious]
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wtf that isnt even dubstep thats dnb thats more breakcore like ...


but yeah good dubstep is hard to find


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: thedudenj]
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i think its fun to listen to and try to pick up on all the different sounds used in this type of music. it's like there's so many sounds. it's really not about melody with this type of music but the vast range of unique sounds and that kinda thang gives me a stiffy

i like all music though


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knock a hoe out this dimension, continue my ascension
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Edited by Envix (10/06/10 06:13 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: jewunit]
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Final Fantasy started on NES no? I was just using that example as an extreme of how well composed something can be in a limited medium. Even Mario or Megaman or Donkey Kong in the NES/SNES era were way more melodic than anything I've heard in dubstep. If you analyze them side by side, they're miles apart to me. That's the point I've been trying to make. I don't find those songs to be repetitive or glitchy at all. At least not in the same manner as electronic/dubstep.

And I'm not trying to hate on electronic music either. I'm not a fan of dubstep, but some of it is good to me. As a musician though I view them as entirely different styles of music that shared a common tool at one point. It's like asking me if I like every form of rock music because I play guitar. Yes maybe DJs are influenced to a degree by the emergence of digital music- of course they are. But I don't think there's a strong correlation between gaming and dubstep/whatever.


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Edited by F0SS1L (10/06/10 06:21 PM)

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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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F0SS1L said:
AntiEverything said:
1.) im talking about my generation, as in: a link between the popularity of dubstep to people my age and the popularity of video games when I was growing up as a little tyke.

2.) its such a hefty claim to assume that video game music is more sophisticated than dubstep :facepalm: subjective ( i believe the inverse to be true)

final fantasy may have moved you, but it didn't get me off even a little bit, didn't even get me hard.

hundreds of skreaming fans dancing their asses off getting down as hard as they can having the time of their lives, now this speaks to me.


1. Dubstep is just one branch of electronic music. If we look at electronic music as a whole I don't see what correlation there is to be drawn. Both have evolved along similar timelines and subsequently have grown in popularity over the past few decades. But as I described, the musical themes are very different, they simply shared a set of tools in the past.

2. I don't think all video game music is amazing, in fact most of it is probably bad. Nor does the quality of Final Fantasy as a game have anything to do with whether or not I like the music. But comparing Nobuo's compositions to Dubstep is like comparing Mozart to N'sync.

People enjoy it for what it's worth and I'm fine with that. Dancing, relaxing, frying, whatever. But they're completely different realms of music IMO.


im confused. yes obviously nobuos music is in a completely different realm.  (comparison's are odious) thusly your comparison makes no sense.

you don't really understand what i'm even talking about. so i'll just give up, there is no clash to this argument. you are comparing nobuou vs dubstep and correlating all of electronic music to video game music. i was trying to correlate the popularity of dubstep for my generation to the popularity of video gamez when i was a kid.

also it's just your opinion that his final fantasy music has more depth and is more sophisticated....instrumentally, yes it's very intricate, but it means nothing to me....take a song like this:

this to me defines what it feels like to be my age in the current world situation that we live in. grimey, polluted, corrupt, digital noises, futuristic sounds, slow beat, urban feel......idk just feels so right to me.


final fantasy music says nothing at all to me :shrug:


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Re: Did video games make our generation obsessed with looped glitchy beats a la dubstep? [Re: F0SS1L]
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I never said FF started anywhere. I just think it's a bit wild to compare dubstep to orchestral music since the very nature of how they are created is completely different. So why even pick an extreme. Shit the point wasn't even to compare the musicality of video game tunes and dubstep. It was asking if our generation finds dubstep interesting because of video games. You can't deny that there are commonalities between early video game music and some of the glitchier dubstep artists, specifically the very easy to notice timbre of both.

Personally I find the drums to be kinda similar in sound and a lot of the melodies too. Like I said earlier I don't think the connection actually exists, but I don't think they sound too far off and it seems to be a legit question. I don't see why people are so offended by it. Hell, there is a whole subgenre of dubstep dedicated to "16 bit", think that has nothing to do with video games?




Ignore the wobs, those obviously aren't the similarity.


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