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9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination.
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I think this because of there is a very high level of conspiracy theory involved. I think 9/11 will be an object of obsession for some people my age.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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:paranoid:

I do agree.

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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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i do too. theyve already tried the same method of "debunking" to make conspiracy theorists look "insane" for questioning the whole thing. I hope later on down the actual truth will come to light.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Angel_Above]
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We had this history teach in middle school that had a major JFK obsession, evening having part of his course devoted to it, had a bust of his head, it was kinda unbelievable when you are young and crazy now that I'm older thinkin' that some people my age are going to be like him with the 9/11 ordeal.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Olympus Mons said:
i do too. theyve already tried the same method of "debunking" to make conspiracy theorists look "insane" for questioning the whole thing. I hope later on down the actual truth will come to light.


Idk man.

Isn't there "officially" two stories for the Kennedy assassination being kept by the CIA until like 2056 or something?

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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Angel_Above]
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Really? I never heard of docs secret for 50 years revolving around that.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Apollyphelion said:
Really? I never heard of docs secret for 50 years revolving around that.


Probably just something I picked up from Icke that stuck with me.

Damn conspiracy theorists.

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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Angel_Above]
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Angel_Above said:
Olympus Mons said:
i do too. theyve already tried the same method of "debunking" to make conspiracy theorists look "insane" for questioning the whole thing. I hope later on down the actual truth will come to light.


Idk man.

Isn't there "officially" two stories for the Kennedy assassination being kept by the CIA until like 2056 or something?


yes there is info that will not be released for some time. this is why people question shit, everything is kept a secret so that people can hide their bullshit.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Could you perhaps provide some sort of source? Not that I am challenging you, I love the paranormal and conspiracy theories. (In the same way I love Dungeons and Dragons)


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Edited by Adamist (07/15/10 08:10 AM)

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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Apollyphelion said:
Could you perhaps provide some sort of source? Not that I am challenging you, I love the paranormal and conspiracy theories. (In the same way I love Dungeons and Dragons)


the difference between conspiracies and D&D is that we live in a conspiracy and are told that they arent real.




1100 CIA JFK Assassination Records Withheld
On November 21, 2008, in response to the Morley FOIA case, the CIA released a 75 page declaration in which they acknowledged that they have withheld 1100 assassination records, and may seek to keep them secret after the scheduled 2017 release date.

In the course of the long and drawn out legal document the CIA official, Delores Nelson also noted that among the 1100 documents, 13 of them could be related to Joannides, the subject of Jeff Morley's FOIA case, which is now extending from years into decades.

Those 13 documents alone, says Ms. Nelson, run over 1100 pages, so the rest of the JFK assassination records still being withheld by the CIA must run into the tens of thousands of pages, not including those documents that were released with redactions.

In addition, this legal document also gives an interesting account of the "GLOMAR" response to FOIA requests, which is the now routine "neither confirm nor deny" response, which is what the Israel government and MOSSAD are now doing in response to questions regarding the Dubai assassination hit squad.

The document, which is titled, JFFFERSON MORLEY Plantiff v. CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY Defendant - DECLARATION OF DELORES M. NELSON includes a section:

IV. SEARCH OF RECORDS RELEASED TO NARA

40. The Dorn Declaration describes the JFK Act and the Assassination Records Review Board (“ARRB”) created there under. See Exhibit A PP 26-30. With the exception of approximately 1,100 documents withheld in their entirety until 2017, all of the CIA’s JFK-related documents were released in full or in part to NARA. 7.

7. The approximately 1,100 documents are located in NARA’s protected collection and will be released in 2017 unless the CIA appeals to the President to withhold their disclosure. On such an appeal, the CIA would need to argue, and the President would need to certify, that “(i) continued postponement is made necessary by an identifiable harm to the military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement, or conduct of foreign relations; and (ii) the identifiable harm is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure.” President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, 44 U.S.C. S 2107 note (2000)

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page 22 “…The index search yielded thirteen documents that were potentially responsive to Plaintiff’s FOIA request. These thirteen documents totally 1,112 pages…..

59. As noted above, in conjunction with its production of the JFK-related recordspursuant to the JFK Act, the CIA previously acknowledged Joannides’ participationin two specific covert projects, operations, or assignments: JM/WAVE or JMWAVE from 1962 through 1964 and Joannides’ service as a CIA representative to the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations from 1978 through 1979. Joannides had been undercover during both of these assignments.”

B. The CIA’s Failure to Assert a GLOMAR Response Would Damage National Security.

61. In a typical response to a FOIA request, the CIA’s answer, either to provide or not provide records sought, in effect confirms the existence or non-existence of CIA records. Typically, this confirmation neither threatens the national security nor reveals intelligence sources and methods. The response focuses on releasing or withholding specific substantive information and the fact that the CIA possesses or does not possess records is not itself a classified fact. However, when the fact that the CIA possesses or does not possess records is itself classified and reasonably could reveal intelligence sources, methods and activities, the CIA cannot confirm that it possesses such information. On the other hand, the CIA also may not deny the Court or in legal proceedings that it does not have responsive records when it in fact does. Thus, the CIA’s only permissible alternative is to neither confirm nor deny the existence or nonexistence of responsive records. Such a “neither confirm nor deny” response is called a GLOMAR response. 10.

10. The CIA asserted a GLOMAR response over the unacknowledged time periods in this case because Joannides’ participation in covert projects, operations, or assignments during these unacknowledged time periods would itself be classified.


Footnote: 10. The “GLOMAR” term comes from the case Phillippi v. CIA. 546 F.2d 1009(DC Cir. 1976, which upheld the CIA’s use of the “neither confirm nor deny” response to a FOIA request for records concerning the CIA’s reported contacts with the media regarding the Hughes GLOMAR Explorer.
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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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Olympus Mons said:
Angel_Above said:
Olympus Mons said:
i do too. theyve already tried the same method of "debunking" to make conspiracy theorists look "insane" for questioning the whole thing. I hope later on down the actual truth will come to light.


Idk man.

Isn't there "officially" two stories for the Kennedy assassination being kept by the CIA until like 2056 or something?


yes there is info that will not be released for some time. this is why people question shit, everything is kept a secret so that people can hide their bullshit.


I read from a GOVERNMENT website that it's a "common misconception."

I now have more reason to believe it. lol

Edited by Angel_Above (07/15/10 08:15 AM)

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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Apollyphelion]
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I thought public opinion suggests it takes 10,000 people to equal a Kennedy.  My world view must be perverted.


On a separate note, dubya emdeeeeess.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Set]
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Conspiracy has a negative connotation. Anyone who uses the word, no matter how enlightened will automatically presume a nut case with empty presupositions.

However a theory is much different. A theory is much different from a hypothesis, it is not an empty guess, it is an explanation which "all evidence" points towards. for example, Evolution theory.

Sometimes we throw the word theory around too freely. None the less, a conspiracy theory as the one in question (9/11) is a theory similar to evolution where areas all evidence proves towards one to believe that the story as told per se (sold?) is not quite accurate at all, actually it is preposterous.

As far as reasons that is a subject of different content and up for debate that excludes itself from the "fact" that the twin towers did not fall due to a plane crashing into them....


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Kennedy is = to: 1 Jew, 3000 Amurkans, 5000 Europeans, 7000 Mexicans , 8000 Africans or the all the population of North Korea.

I keed, I keed.


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Re: 9/11 is my generation's Kennedy Assassination. [Re: Akira]
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Akira said:
Conspiracy has a negative connotation. Anyone who uses the word, no matter how enlightened will automatically presume a nut case with empty presupositions.

However a theory is much different. A theory is much different from a hypothesis, it is not an empty guess, it is an explanation which "all evidence" points towards. for example, Evolution theory.

Sometimes we throw the word theory around too freely. None the less, a conspiracy theory as the one in question (9/11) is a theory similar to evolution where areas all evidence proves towards one to believe that the story as told per se (sold?) is not quite accurate at all, actually it is preposterous.

As far as reasons that is a subject of different content and up for debate that excludes itself from the "fact" that the twin towers did not fall due to a plane crashing into them....


personally i was insulted that they would try to deceive us so openly. We really have to be dumb as fuck if they believed(and were right for the most part) that we would accept that story. It's really genius though considering the people who dont believe it are automatically the minority, and we all know what this country does to a minority.


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