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Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th
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Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media Narrative
June 15th, 2010 | VeteransToday.com
article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/15/independent-journalists-dismantling-israels-hold-on-media-narrative/

my 2 cents: great article in my opinion, and because i found it very informative, i felt like I should share it with my fellow shroomerites. discussion encouraged. Cheers!


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Edited by PookztA (06/16/10 01:24 PM)

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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Discussion encouraged? Fine, then...


This is straight-up paranoid fever swamp gibberish of the worst conspiracy-mongering stripe possible. Reading it all the way through will drop your IQ at least a dozen points. It bears exactly zero resemblance to reality, and if I weren't certain you'd whine for days over my action, I'd transfer this straight to the Conspiracy forum, which is where it really belongs. Or maybe OTD.






Phred


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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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I have two words for anyone who believes and advocates for this crap, unfortunately those two words would probably get me banned from this section of the forum.


All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: RationalEgo]
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All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.


Without reservations or conditions?

That is far from an objective assertion.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
Quote:
All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.


Without reservations or conditions?

That is far from an objective




Did I say without reservations or conditions? I think not.

The amount to which I support Israel is equal to the extent to which they support the individual rights of their citizens.

You can't even pretend that the other Islamic states that surround Israel support individual rights.

Edited by RationalEgo (06/17/10 01:14 AM)

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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some parts of the article I considered rather important (the last paragraph is my favorite):

“The systematic attempt and very deliberate first priority for the Israeli soldiers as they came on the ships was to shut down the story, to confiscate all cameras, to shut down satellites, to smash the CCTV cameras that were on the Mavi Marmara, to make sure that nothing was going out. They were hellbent on controlling the story,” commented Australian journalist Paul McGeough, one of the hundreds of activists and reporters who witnessed the deadly morning attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla on 31 May (“Framing the Narrative: Israeli Commandos Seize Videotape and Equipment from Journalists After Deadly Raid,” Democracy Now, 9 June 2010). McGeough was one of at least 60 journalists aboard the flotilla who were detained and their footage confiscated.

Journalists aboard the ship, some of whom had been able to broadcast via satellite for a limited time during the assault, told interviewers that they had been singled out for attack by Israeli troops. “We had cameras round our necks and our press cards in our hands, but the soldiers kept aiming the lasers of their guns at our eyes in order to intimidate us,” Turkish journalist Yuecel Velioglu of the AA news agency told Reporters Without Borders (“As Turkish photographer is buried, other journalists aboard flotilla speak out,” 9 June 2010).

In addition, much of the footage released by Israel (after heavy editing) was taken from journalists aboard the ship after their equipment had been confiscated. The move was strongly denounced by Israel’s Foreign Press Association (FPA), which stated on 4 June: “the use of this material without permission from the relevant media organizations is a clear violation of journalistic ethics and unacceptable.”

Recently-released video clips from flotilla survivors show Israeli soldiers kicking, beating and shooting passengers, including footage which Turkey’s Cihan News Agency says depicts the close-range killing of Furkan Dogan, a 19-year-old US citizen, with automatic weaponry (“Israeli Soldiers Murdering Man Identified as Furkan Dogan,” 10 June 2010). An autopsy determined that Dogan was shot five times, including once in the back and twice in the head from almost point-blank range. Other footage shows helicopters hovering above the flotilla, with apparent muzzle flashes and sounds of gunfire, supporting the survivors’ contention that commandos were already firing before boarding the vessels, thus prompting the limited resistance demonstrated by terrified passengers.

The Israeli government continues to reject the idea of an international investigation in favor of pursuing its own. On 5 June, the United Nation’s Secretary General proposed an international panel to examine the killing of nine flotilla passengers, but Israel’s ambassador to the US, Michael Oren, announced on FOX News the next day that Israel would refuse “to be investigated by any international board” (“Transcript: Amb. Michael Oren on ‘FNS’,” 7 June 2010).

Paul Larudee, a San Francisco Bay Area-based activist who participated in the flotilla and endured a severe beating which required him to him to be hospitalized, believes that the success of independent journalists in unraveling Israel’s disjointed narrative has had a transformative effect on the popular consciousness.

“Something’s happening here. Perceptions begin to move,” Larudee said. “People are getting it — they understand that a humanitarian aid convoy was attacked, and the passengers were defending themselves, despite the spin that Israel is creating in the media. Israel is not going to be able to keep this up much longer. It’s all starting to crumble.”

Cheers to the future,

-Abe


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Edited by PookztA (06/17/10 01:12 PM)

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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I understand that you need to wage propaganda jihad on behalf of genocidal loons, but why don't you just post it in "did Israel cross the line" thread? Why make separate thread dedicated to some pro-HAMAS idiot doing nothing but summarizing these crappy talking points?

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: AlexD]
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lol @ the term(s) "propaganda jihad".

i am simply sharing articles which I consider important with others. This article felt very important to me, so I shared it here.

Sensitive subject, I know, but either way, perhaps you should take up your concerns with the author of the article?


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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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wow: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/16/jim-w-dean-faked-israeli-flotilla-videos-provide-opening-to-expose-israeli-expionage-here/


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Expand Your Consciousness. :mushroomgrow:

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: PookztA]
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guy in the video says the helicopters were apaches when they're clearly UH-60 Blackhawks


totally staged


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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: AlexD]
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AlexD said:
I understand that you need to wage propaganda jihad on behalf of genocidal loons, but why don't you just post it in "did Israel cross the line" thread? Why make separate thread dedicated to some pro-HAMAS idiot doing nothing but summarizing these crappy talking points?



^^^This

Anyone with half a brain can see and work out who is lying and who is in the right. I just don't see why the Israeli's risked the lives of their soldiers by attempting to board the ship, they should;d have just sunk the thing and been done with it.

This conspiracy theory nonsense is just Hamas propaganda and the useful idiots who propagate it should be ashamed of their lack of mental clarity and reasoning abilities.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: RationalEgo]
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The Palestinian cause just seems like a farce to gain momentum to fight Israel.  Remember the 3 Nos? "NO peace with Israel. NO recognition of Israel. NO negotiations with Israel." The Arabs don't give a shit about Palis, they want Israel gone.  Some of that crap Hamas writes looks like Hitler wrote it.  The Jews deserve that land, and yes Israel should have torpedoed that flotilla.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: despisedicon]
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Quote:
wow: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/06/16/jim-w-dean-faked-israeli-flotilla-videos-provide-opening-to-expose-israeli-expionage-here/



Wow indeed. I guess now you simply sharing HAMAS propaganda videos.

The staged video "analysis" is a marvel. I especially liked those mystical "walking through iron" parts. Those evil Zionists! Not content with simply staging the scene, they just had to use their devilish craft to walk through metal objects thus immediately revealing themselves. Plus the security camera footage has no audio! Plus there is some mystical zionist cursor! Plus the makeup of people is largely the same! Plus the editor helpfully reminds every 5 seconds that the video is fake. Don't you feel like wrapping yourself in explosives and blowing up in a Israeli school bus?! You should.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: RationalEgo]
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Quote:
I just don't see why the Israeli's risked the lives of their soldiers by attempting to board the ship, they should;d have just sunk the thing and been done with it.



If they've done this HAMAS would have scored a huge victory. Flotilla jihadists openly hoped for martyrdom. As it is now the only thing HAMAS is left with is making these BS videos, which will convince only those who don't need any convincing in the first place.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
I have two words for anyone who believes and advocates for this crap, unfortunately those two words would probably get me banned from this section of the forum.


All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.


this is how its done kids, this guy is totally unbiased.
And his argument is hole-proof

i wonder if i can do it too.


All reasonable men will stand up and Say I am their GOD




did it work??? am i your God yet?:tongue2:

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: husk]
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:lol: Hey, his ego is rational.


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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
:lol: Hey, his ego is rational.


:lol: i think that means it has the ability to rationalize his emotional responses :lol:

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: husk]
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husk said:
RationalEgo said:
I have two words for anyone who believes and advocates for this crap, unfortunately those two words would probably get me banned from this section of the forum.


All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.


this is how its done kids, this guy is totally unbiased.
And his argument is hole-proof

i wonder if i can do it too.


All reasonable men will stand up and Say I am their GOD




did it work??? am i your God yet?:tongue2:


I already gave multiple responses to this issue in the main thread. You stupid little comment here is meaningless.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: husk]
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husk said:
Icelander said:
:lol: Hey, his ego is rational.


:lol: i think that means it has the ability to rationalize his emotional responses :lol:



Ugh, no.

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Re: Independent Journalists Dismantling Israel’s Stranglehold on Media | June 15th [Re: husk]
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husk said:
RationalEgo said:
I have two words for anyone who believes and advocates for this crap, unfortunately those two words would probably get me banned from this section of the forum.


All reasonable men will stand up and support Israel, that is all I have to say.


this is how its done kids, this guy is totally unbiased.
And his argument is hole-proof

i wonder if i can do it too.


All reasonable men will stand up and Say I am their GOD




did it work??? am i your God yet?:tongue2:



Then again presenting you with obvious evidence won't work either  :shrug:  Maybe one day you'll understand why people have problems with ultraviolent scum and take it's victim side, more likely you won't. Anyway there is no way to reason you out of something you've never been reasoned into in the first place

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