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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: DieCommie]
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First off, I would like to say that the OP is a bigot who needs to chill the fuck out.
Secondly, I agree with Allan; borders don't make sense.
Laws should be based on morals and ethics - not territorialism and pride.
What I really want to know is - why do you hate real people - human beings, for taking lower-paying jobs than yours that no one wants?
Personally I don't have a problem with immigration - but restrictions should change.
Its easier to immigrate illegally than legally... what great incentive for aliens to do everything by the books.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
zappaisgod said:
Bullshit or not, there is nothing imaginary about them.  And if they don't want to respect the line then they can eat the gun.  Guns most decidedly are not imaginary and they are definitely respect worthy.



Shooting people for crossing an arbitrary line in the desert is not a good policy.



There's nothing arbitrary about it.  It has been determined with much blood, sweat and toil.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
Walking in, sure.  But hopping the fence and breaking in is the proper comparison.  (BTW, I sure dont advocate the shooting of illegals)



My point regarding the guns is that everything governments do is at the point of a gun.  Every last thing.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: zappaisgod]
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Right, its not overt violence its the threat of violence.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: DieCommie]
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Yep.  Poli sci 101.  One of the first things they taught us.  The second thing was that the only person who can determine what your interests are is you.  Of course, that was before academia was totally overrun by liberal weenie fucktards.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: zappaisgod]
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Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms. 

Now, these kids should not have been sent home for what they were wearing, I agree. 

Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Roll Fizzlebeef]
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Roll Fizzlebeef said:
Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms.



Mushrooms do not always make people cool or intelligent.

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Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.



They can redraw the invisible lines all they want, its still all bullshit.

zappaisgod said:
There's nothing arbitrary about it.  It has been determined with much blood, sweat and toil.



They can sweat and toil all they want, that doesn't make it right.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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The borders should not be secured.  All people should be free to cross any invisible line at any time.



Yea?? really?? and what do you think would happen? it would be like dora the explorer?? lol WOW WAKE UPPPP. You my friend have had to many drugs.


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Secondly, I agree with Allan; borders don't make sense.
Laws should be based on morals and ethics - not territorialism and pride.
What I really want to know is - why do you hate real people - human beings, for taking lower-paying jobs than yours that no one wants?



DUDE WAKE THE FUCK UPPP. holy shit lol... Morals and Ethics are different in OTHER COUNTRIES .. thats part of the reason to why WE HAVE BORDERS>. der der der... And Taking lower paying jobs? do you fucking live in arizona? everyone is taking whatever they can, we are in whats called a RECESSION. der der.. der.. idiot. and if there were no illegals at all who do you think would take those jobs? you think they would just sit there empty? wow WAKE UP AGAIN>>>>>?????

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Personally I don't have a problem with immigration - but restrictions should change.
Its easier to immigrate illegally than legally... what great incentive for aliens to do everything by the books.



Its because we have people like you defending the immigration bill. If everyone was like me. We would not have this dispute right now. and by the way i know MANY legals. they care about out laws.. these people dont give a fuck. why would you be for someone who doesnt care about you? duh

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Roll Fizzlebeef]
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Roll Fizzlebeef said:
Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.



No, its not their land.  They stole it from the spanish, who stole it from older nations who stole it from older people still.  Why would you assume that in that long line of ownership somehow mexico is the true owner?  Mexico only held the land for 20 years.  America, Spain and the early nations all held it for longer than that.  Mexico has the weakest claim of any over the land.  Why dont you go read a history book instead of spouting BS.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
zappaisgod said:
Bullshit or not, there is nothing imaginary about them.  And if they don't want to respect the line then they can eat the gun.  Guns most decidedly are not imaginary and they are definitely respect worthy.



Shooting people for crossing an arbitrary line in the desert is not a good policy.



It is a most awesome policy.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: dshow]
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Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms. 

Now, these kids should not have been sent home for what they were wearing, I agree. 

Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.




lol HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA.. I am going to educate you right now. I mean it in the nicest of ways. Please learn from this...
Maybe the poster is a racist asshole, but other people on here such as myself arent racist. We are defending a NATION, Not a fucking race. Im not pointing fingers like you are. You are racist for even thinking all these people are racist. Your the one who has to say that because its all YOU KNOW, is RACISM.

Secondly this topic is about Americans (thats all races retard, oh but thats the american race right? lol) being told to take Their symbols of the American flag off. What looks racist to you? wearing AMERICAN FLAGS in AMERICA, or telling them to take off the AMERICAN FLAGS because they are OFFENDED.. whos the racist ones? Its obviously who ever is offended against the america flag. they are the racist, in a reverse wierd story, your actually racsist and you didnt even know it.

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Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.




If you have too much ignorance to realize the other parts I was explaining, i hope you will at least get this. Fuck the border? and its "their land". so does that mean we should give it back? If you lived over there what do you think would happen? you would suddenly drop into a lifestyle of shit compared to what you have today.  READ a fucking history book? dude INDIANS were here before all of us.. mexicans are only partial indians.. READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK... What the hell are these kids being taught now days?? to spit on their own country that offers them more then any other country in the world?? TO shit on the people who died and who had family memebers die so they can have what they have today? im 22 and im sick and tired of this bullshit. BE a fucking man

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Roll Fizzlebeef]
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Roll Fizzlebeef said:
Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms. 

Now, these kids should not have been sent home for what they were wearing, I agree. 

Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.



I have.  Fuck them, they lost.  They were fucking Spaniard mongrels anyway.  God lord are you ignorant.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Roll Fizzlebeef said:
Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms.



Mushrooms do not always make people cool or intelligent.



As he has so exuberently illustrated
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Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.



They can redraw the invisible lines all they want, its still all bullshit.



No, it isn't bullshit.  Or do you think we should all live under one law everywhere?  How stupid.
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zappaisgod said:
There's nothing arbitrary about it.  It has been determined with much blood, sweat and toil.



They can sweat and toil all they want, that doesn't make it right.



The sweat and toil have nothing to do with right or wrong, it has to do with pointing out that your assertion that the border is arbitrary is false, delusional and totally nonsensical.  The border is neither arbitrary nor imaginary.  You just have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  Even the fucking Indian tribes had defined borders long before Whitey got here.  Sheesh.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
No, it isn't bullshit.  Or do you think we should all live under one law everywhere?  How stupid.



Don't you think that would make the world a much better place?
Seriously.

DieCommie said:
No, its not their land.  They stole it from the spanish, who stole it from older nations who stole it from older people still.  Why would you assume that in that long line of ownership somehow mexico is the true owner?  Mexico only held the land for 20 years.  America, Spain and the early nations all held it for longer than that.  Mexico has the weakest claim of any over the land.  Why dont you go read a history book instead of spouting BS.



My understanding here is that we're talking about Mexicans as the original inhabitants of the land, who most definitely did not steal anything from the Spanish. Vice versa, actually. So why don't you 'go read a history book instead of spouting (hate-mongering) BS.

zappaisgod said:
Alan Rockefeller said:
Mushrooms do not always make people cool or intelligent.



As he has so exuberently illustrated




...wow. Just wow.


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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Roll Fizzlebeef]
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Roll Fizzlebeef said:
Wow.  Just, fucking, wow.  I did not forsee this many racists on a forum dedicated to mushrooms. 

Now, these kids should not have been sent home for what they were wearing, I agree. 

Having said that, fuck the border!  A good portion of southern Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Cali were all once mexican land.  It IS their land, we are the invaders.  Read a fucking history book.



Yes, read a history book!  We were invaders and kicked them the fuck out.  I think you don't understand the concept of warfare.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: despisedicon]
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.  It's the United States every day out of the year.  Is the ACLU lining up to defend these kids?  Not a chance.

I praise these young men for not apologizing to these miscreants.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Niwita]
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Niwita said:
zappaisgod said:
No, it isn't bullshit.  Or do you think we should all live under one law everywhere?  How stupid.



Don't you think that would make the world a much better place?
Seriously.



Absolutely NOT.  Absolutely and emphatically NO.
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DieCommie said:
No, its not their land.  They stole it from the spanish, who stole it from older nations who stole it from older people still.  Why would you assume that in that long line of ownership somehow mexico is the true owner?  Mexico only held the land for 20 years.  America, Spain and the early nations all held it for longer than that.  Mexico has the weakest claim of any over the land.  Why dont you go read a history book instead of spouting BS.



My understanding here is that we're talking about Mexicans as the original inhabitants of the land, who most definitely did not steal anything from the Spanish. Vice versa, actually. So why don't you 'go read a history book instead of spouting (hate-mongering) BS.



Are you talking only about the Indians then?  Because modern day Mexicans aren't them.

It isn't hate mongering to demand that our borders be respected.  It is a Constitutional imperative.
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zappaisgod said:
Alan Rockefeller said:
Mushrooms do not always make people cool or intelligent.



As he has so exuberently illustrated




...wow. Just wow.



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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Niwita]
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Listen up you.


The entire world under one law would be a totalitarian nightmare.

It is hard enough keeping local elected politicians in line.

What would it be like when the politician in question does not even live in your country?

What does it look like when a group of said sociopaths get together and plan for such a thing?

I strongly suggest that you find a quiet room, conduct some self examination, and fix what is wrong with your thinking.

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: Mr.Al]
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I really don't understand people so opposed to immigration. The legal immigration laws in this country and the waiting times are insane. If I desperately needed a job I would sure as hell jump the border too. They come in, and work all our shitty jobs for us, what's the big deal? And so what if they're breaking the law? It's a bullshit law, just like our drug laws are.

It's funny, back in the day it was the Irish, then the Italians that were getting all the hate. I just find it ironic that many of those railing against immigration are descendants of immigrants themselves. America's a melting pot. Not to mention the fact, like someone mentioned above, that this is all Mexican land being "invaded" by immigrants. We stole it from them flat out. No justification no nothin. It was imperialism pure and simple. The least we can do is let them come work at McDonalds for us :p. Not to mention the fact that this entire country was stolen from the "Native Americans" (fuck I hate that term it sounds so retarded but I guess it's the best). The hypocrisy of being anti-immigration is immense.

I'm surprised people on a shroomery forum would have views like this... It's just a lucky roll of the dice that you were born here and automatically got citizenship. Put yourself in someone else's shoes. Would you be a staunch proponent of closing the border if you were born to a poor Mexican family?

Edited by NoxNoctum (05/08/10 11:11 AM)

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Re: We deserve the Mexican filth [Re: NoxNoctum]
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NoxNoctum said:
I really don't understand people so opposed to immigration. The legal immigration laws in this country and the waiting times are insane. If I desperately needed a job I would sure as hell jump the border too. They come in, and work all our shitty jobs for us, what's the big deal? And so what if they're breaking the law? It's a bullshit law, just like our drug laws are.

It's funny, back in the day it was the Irish, then the Italians that were getting all the hate. I just find it ironic that many of those railing against immigration are descendants of immigrants themselves. America's a melting pot. Not to mention the fact, like someone mentioned above, that this is all Mexican land being "invaded" by immigrants. We stole it from them flat out. No justification no nothin. It was imperialism pure and simple. The least we can do is let them come work at McDonalds for us :p.

I'm surprised people on a shroomery forum would have views like this... It's just a lucky roll of the dice that you were born here and automatically got citizenship. Put yourself in someone else's shoes.



Who said they were opposed to immigration? All I've seen is people talking about illegal immigration.

Can you not grasp the difference between the two?

I'm surprised people on the Shroomery aren't always smart enough to grasp the difference. It's pretty sad.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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