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There is still hope for America
    #2278448 - 01/27/04 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This will kill some of you..............

Bush's Secret Weapon: Young Voters
Though it?s not clear who they?ll vote for, most 18- to
29-year-olds say for now, they?re behind both the president and the war in Iraq

Larry Downing / Reuters
Teen idol: Bush's support from young voters is surprisingly strong
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Jonathan Darman
Newsweek
Updated: 12:42 p.m. ET Jan. 26, 2004Jan. 26 - Young voters are sharply divided on the economy, the Iraq war and overall approval of President George W. Bush?s job performance, according to an exclusive new NEWSWEEK poll conducted among young voters, the Newsweek Genext Poll. While the near-equal partisan divide among young voters mirrors the split between U.S. voters overall, the poll also suggests that on social issues like abortion and gay marriage, 18-29 year-olds are eager to move beyond the partisan battles of the past.

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Candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination, most notably Howard Dean, have talked up their appeal to younger Americans as a potential strength, claiming that by reaching out to young voters they can tip the electoral scales in their favor. But among the poll?s most surprising findings are data that suggest 18-29 year-olds may not be the Democratic boon Dean and others have hoped for. A majority of young voters (54 percent) say they approve of the way Bush is handling his job as president, virtually identical to the president?s approval rating among registered voters overall.

Fifty-four percent of young voters say they approve of the president?s handling of economic issues (with 44 percent saying they disapprove) and 57 percent approve of his handling of foreign policy (42 percent disapprove). The approval ratings don?t necessarily translate into vote for Bush, however: 37 percent said they would definitely vote to reelect the president while 34% they would definitely vote to elect someone else.

Young voters who participated in the poll had a range of political affiliations with 47 percent identified as Democrats and 40 percent identified as Republican. A clear majority of young voters also seems to support the Bush administration?s policies in Iraq. Fully 60 percent say the White House made the right decision when it invaded Iraq and only 37 percent call the war a mistake. Yet while they support the military effort, young voters are concerned about its costs. A majority, 56 percent, say the Bush administration?s war on terror and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein have put a substantial burden on people under 30 while asking comparatively little sacrifice from older Americans. And while young voters? support for the war is clear, it is distinctly fractured along party lines, with 87 percent of young Republicans saying the Bush administration made the right decision compared to only 38 percent of Democrats.

At first glance, young voters' opinions on controversial social issues seem similar to those of voters overall. Voters in the 18-29 range were almost evenly divided on whether or not gay marriage should be made legal, with 50 percent supporting legalization and 47 percent opposed. There too, party affiliation heavily affected voters? decisions with 64 percent of young Democrats supporting legalization and only 31 percent of young Republicans.

Young voters? gender also seemed to affect their decision on the issue, with 58 percent of females and 43 percent of males supporting legalization. These numbers roughly matched up with some polls among all registered voters on the topic of gay marriage. But interestingly, a clear majority of young voters, 54 percent, was opposed to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage with only 43 percent supporting a constitutional ban. These numbers could indicate that while young voters aren?t necessarily comfortable with the idea of gay marriage, they are hesitant to engage in a drawn-out political fight to stop it.



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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2278477 - 01/27/04 07:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

more than anything else..that shows the full extent to which the quality of education has declined in this country...

EDIT: This will kill some of you..............
it'll kill you too..if you do drugs...


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Edited by Annapurna1 (01/27/04 07:33 PM)


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2278531 - 01/27/04 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
more than anything else..that shows the full extent to which the quality of education has declined in this country...



What's really funny is that the liberals have got a hold of the educational establishment and have been trying to brainwash the youth for some time now.  Dumbing down the curriculum, experimenting with all sorts of social engineering bullshit, PC indoctrination, social promotions, etc.  You reap what you sow... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2278565 - 01/27/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

More than anything else it shows that this upcoming generation thinks and realizes the pap that has passed for education in this country.

Perhaps they realize the stupidity of government being involved in so much.

Lefties..... the end is on the way. Perhaps had you not wanted government fist deep in your rectums, your ideas would have remained palatable to more.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2278605 - 01/27/04 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ya got all that from that poll. Huh


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: falcon]
    #2278645 - 01/27/04 08:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Perhaps they should have included the definition of "perhaps" in the article.

But no, I got that from reading, listening and thinking.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Evolving]
    #2278697 - 01/27/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Evolving said:
Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
more than anything else..that shows the full extent to which the quality of education has declined in this country...



What's really funny is that the liberals have got a hold of the educational establishment and have been trying to brainwash the youth for some time now.  Dumbing down the curriculum, experimenting with all sorts of social engineering bullshit, PC indoctrination, social promotions, etc.  You reap what you sow... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:




would you care to explain to the audience how the liberals are controlling the educational system...if that were so..then we sure as hell wouldnt be teaching these kids about the virtues of neoconservatism...

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Lefties..... the end is on the way. Perhaps had you not wanted government fist deep in your rectums, your ideas would have remained palatable to more.




apparently not deep enough for the pro-bush right...

EDIT: maybe that explains why you have your heads so far up your rectums...


Edited by Annapurna1 (01/27/04 09:11 PM)


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2278707 - 01/27/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I bow before the master of the provisional statement. :grin:


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2278760 - 01/27/04 08:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

quit spewing weird random lefty statements

libertarians aren't exactly conservative but they don't like massive government interaction on everything..


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: ]
    #2278768 - 01/27/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

libertarian is more of a philosophy and will porbably never amount to much of a political movement ... they can't decide where to hold the meetings.


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2278774 - 01/27/04 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hmm, liberals control education? has anyone here read "lies my teacher told me"?

why isn't philosophy taught in american high schools like it is in every european high school?

why are there so many flags/anthems/pep rallys/nationalistic bullshit in public schools?

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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Malachi]
    #2278788 - 01/27/04 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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get that lift kit yet LDS?



Kill whitey with foolish statements? Nah... it'll never work.


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: ]
    #2278797 - 01/27/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Morrowind said:
quit spewing weird random lefty statements

libertarians aren't exactly conservative but they don't like massive government interaction on everything..



As a Libertarian, I'm aware of that. Sadly, for now conservatisim is as close as we can get.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: falcon]
    #2278976 - 01/27/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah it is a philosophy, but the republican party doesn't respond well to that wavelength of thought

neither do democrats but w/e..

yay green party..?


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2278977 - 01/27/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Annapurna1 said:
would you care to explain to the audience how the liberals are controlling the educational system...if that were so..then we sure as hell wouldnt be teaching these kids about the virtues of neoconservatism...



I already mentioned it but you weren't paying attention, social promotions, multiculturalism, teaching of PC values, etc. Why don't you educate yourself on the NEA (arguably the most powerful union in the country) and their political activities & stances, such as anti-voucher propaganda, anti-home schooling efforts and anti-second amendment legislation? To think that teachers don't bring their prejudices into the classroom and try to indoctrinate children to their political leanings is naive to say the least.


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: ]
    #2279075 - 01/27/04 11:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Green party is too left leaning for my taste, but like them I'd like to see more decisions being made on the local level.


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2279095 - 01/27/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting that the ones who will have to pay off the massive debt support the guy responsible for it.


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2279131 - 01/27/04 11:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm dyin' over here.






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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: Evolving]
    #2279984 - 01/28/04 09:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Evolving said:
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Annapurna1 said:
would you care to explain to the audience how the liberals are controlling the educational system...if that were so..then we sure as hell wouldnt be teaching these kids about the virtues of neoconservatism...



I already mentioned it but you weren't paying attention, social promotions, multiculturalism, teaching of PC values, etc. Why don't you educate yourself on the NEA (arguably the most powerful union in the country) and their political activities & stances, such as anti-voucher propaganda, anti-home schooling efforts and anti-second amendment legislation? To think that teachers don't bring their prejudices into the classroom and try to indoctrinate children to their political leanings is naive to say the least.




then i suppose karl rove is a liberal...


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Re: There is still hope for America [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2280146 - 01/28/04 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i know a few people my age that support bush and his decisions...yup, they're the same ones who still think hussein and bin-laden worked together to plan 9/11. Congrats, conservatives have secured the votes of the idiots. Thank goodness for conservative propaganda i guess "bin laden bad...war good"

The only bush supporters i know that are my age and actually know anything about politics beyond what they see on fox news are my ex-military friends.

Besides this poll really means nothing. Hmm i wonder what the same poll would have looked like right at the end of bill clintons first term?? It was probably the exact opposite yet i'd be suprised if you heard alot of liberals talking about their delusional theories that the republican party was falling apart.


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