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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: nastos]
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their LC master will never match our karo king


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: nastos]
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ive checked out some of the jigalow guys LC logs and stuff and he def knows his shit.. he had pretty suprising results using malt dex mix in combination with different forms of algea and also agave, the stuff taquilla is made from. Interesting stuff.. rather read that shit than the "check out my pf cakes" anyday... Its posten on a newer forum compared to here and mycotopia so many of the more respected cultivators over there seem a little less traditional and seem more prone to experimentation , one of which came up the the fast blast..

Im really surprised at how many members around here are just automatically knocking stuff just because its not standard bread n butter teks.. starting to sound like a my ol gramps "back in my day.."  Guess its just bc this is an older forum w lots of tradition but damn.. figured this hobby naturally attracted experimental individuals.... not this "burn the witch!!" bs

@gangster of love: whats your deal man? Seriously.. where the hell does this thread even come off as some infomercial.. unless you work at some shamwow sweat shop ran by scientologists, theres no excuse busting into this thread with such blatant inquisition like rage for the unknown. Its called science, its built on research you know.. You may remember it from those tri-fold cardboard things you decorated back in grade school with crazy voodoo words like hypotheses and data sitting behind your grow your own crystals kit. If all we did was do whats already shown to work we would still be in the dark ages. You did this same shit the other day in my thread about my Supplementation at Casing research, spouting off that same"ive never heard of it.. sounds like work of satan bullshit and fuck harry potter too".. save that crap for the bible thumpers and intelligent design crack pots dude..

Sry for the rant you guys.. just really surprised, you would think a forum dedicated to a mind opening substance like mushrooms would be more inclined to have an open mind in other regards.. lil disappointed at how many blind, mean spirited even, assumptions keep being made.

Whether the shit works or not, theres something to learn here and I for one am interested in any type of experiments that seek to push past traditional boundaries.

A closed mind opens no doors :smile: lol Damned if that didnt have a nice ring to it.. wonder if hallmarks hiring


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: koopa_troopa]
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Not all of us koop. I read those links on SAC you posted and its been on my mind for days.

But the fast blast claims really strain credulity. Most of us aren't calling bs yet, since there are trials in the works.

Someone should probably test the fast blast as a SAC agent. Seems like that might be the most appropriate use of it.

There's a couple issues that bug me about the SAC thing tho. One is that the species they were working with showed a 100% improvement from casing alone (versus uncased). That's not at all true about cubensis. The other thing that bugs me about SAC is that no one has a hypothesis about why it works. Those nutrients that you are supplementing should be available for fruitbody formation regardless of whether they are introduced at inoculation or just prior to fruiting. I'm thinking it might have nothing to do with the addition of nutrients like nitrogen, but rather has more to do with the affect of the plant oils on pinning as other research has suggested. I'm guessing this is true about fastblast as well.

And I have to admit, the phrase 'liquid culture master' makes me laugh also. LC isn't hard and there isn't much room for improvement, so it's kindof like being a master of picking your nose, not something to brag about.


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: anonjon]
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I am all for trials of the stuff, and I'd like to see it work.  The thing that makes me suspicious and disdainful is the secrecy surrounding fast blast.  If one of the "masters" on this forum came up with a substrate additive that sped up colonization and fruiting, or had any other positive effect, they would gleefully post a detailed description of the methods and materials involved.  Other folks would use the tek, experiment with it, change or augment it, apply it in various applications, and, ultimately, improve it.

I'll join in the anti-scientific-inquisitiveness criticism of anyone who would discourage experimentation with fastblast or any other tek.  But I'll lodge that same criticism against anyone who intentionally withholds important data and information from the community for their own enrichment.

Science only flourishes when it is free.

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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: imnorml]
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anything is worth $8 to try it. free is even better and this guy does come through. i like floyd he is good peoples. not only does he send you what you want but goodies too. now im still up in the air about the fast blast. until i get a second shot at it.


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: milkman59]
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thanx milkman i appreciate that and as for the better good of the myco world and what not, im hardly rich and trust me if i could afford 200+ bucks a month id LOVE to be a vendor for you guys and its in the works but hey its a fair price and i got two kids and a wife and im the only workin dude so lets be realistic here im a guy with a business not here to give stuff out sorry, not to mention lots of money was put into the RandD of makin fastblast and its still on going anyway lets see some side by sides!!


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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and not to knock down any karoking... but karo?? im talkin about real lc with addatives that myc likes, you guys are aware that there are different sugars like dextrose,glucose,maltose blablabla as well as other things such as blue green algae and vitamins anyway why dont you peeps TRY these things out, wer'e all about researching to come up with way better products and well just fyi jigs comin up with a lc that has antibiotics for mycology so you can do tissue transfers with much less contam problem seeing that bacteria is the #1 problem for tissue transfers when done str8 to lc... so yea our man jig IS the lc master lol


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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Why would you need antibiotics in an lc. You telling me that if I stick this magic stuff in my lc solution I don't have to follow sterile tek anymore?

:holyshit:

Oh I do still have to follow sterile tek? Tell me again why I need to put this stuff in my lc?


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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floydshaman said:
and not to knock down any karoking... but karo?? im talkin about real lc with addatives that myc likes, you guys are aware that there are different sugars like dextrose,glucose,maltose blablabla as well as other things such as blue green algae and vitamins anyway why dont you peeps TRY these things out, wer'e all about researching to come up with way better products and well just fyi jigs comin up with a lc that has antibiotics for mycology so you can do tissue transfers with much less contam problem seeing that bacteria is the #1 problem for tissue transfers when done str8 to lc... so yea our man jig IS the lc master lol


people might take you more serious if you learned to use complete sentences.


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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floydshaman said:
not to mention lots of money was put into the RandD of makin fastblast and its still on going anyway lets see some side by sides!!


I bet you spent so much money on development of this magical fastblast. I bet you paid a team of scientist to throw shit together huh? :facepalm:


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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:rolleyes:


your borderline pushing your product...
almost all your posts here at the Shroomery are about Fast Blast.

I don't mind people trying it and sharing what their experience with it was.

But please respect our rules and don't use our forum to get the name of your product out there.


ty


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: Roadkill]
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i got my free sample today. the instructions don't really jive with ANY substrate prep. i've ever read. i'll  type them up tomorrow but it's along the lines of oven sterilization. why would you want to sterilize your sub?

anyway i may get around to using it next weekend. my iso. won't be ready for a couple of weeks. sooo.....if i made a couple of mini subs out of one single jar of spawn would those subs necessarily have the same characteristics or would it just be a crap-shoot? i have some jars noc'd with agar from before the last transfer to a true isolate.

btw, has anyone else got anywhere with this experiment? colonization times? pics?


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: TacoHerder]
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TacoHerder said:
thats why peeps are giving it a go here.  Last time i checked shroomcrapia will ban you for recommending using the shotgun FC, that forum sucks.


actually that was mycotopia


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: floydshaman]
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floydshaman said:
and not to knock down any karoking... but karo?? im talkin about real lc with addatives that myc likes, you guys are aware that there are different sugars like dextrose,glucose,maltose blablabla as well as other things such as blue green algae and vitamins anyway why dont you peeps TRY these things out, wer'e all about researching to come up with way better products and well just fyi jigs comin up with a lc that has antibiotics for mycology so you can do tissue transfers with much less contam problem seeing that bacteria is the #1 problem for tissue transfers when done str8 to lc... so yea our man jig IS the lc master lol



it was a joke buddy i know there are far more benificial things to use for lc...


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: nastos]
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why dose every one nock karo so bad?  i have only used that when i do LC's wich is not often im more of an agar guy. but it has always seemed to work ok.


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: feelfunny]
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i guess using karo makes people feel less intelligent some how everyone think you need 80 million different additives and zero gravity with a degree in chemistry to make LC, I have used karo many times and have never had bad results...


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: cloudsaregathering]
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Karo is the base ingredient for all my LC's and works fine on it's own.  Adding LME to karo with a pinch of agar is great for any LC.
CH


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: CH HELL]
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thank you! but im slow whats LME


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: feelfunny]
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feelfunny said:
thank you! but im slow whats LME


Light Malt Extract=LME
I know you knew that.:wink:


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Re: Fast Blast trials. [Re: CH HELL]
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yea i did would just testing you fly?


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