milkman59 said:

i also stated this:

"ill try it again maybe dockrat fucked me"

"well i spilled the beans about the reptile sand, and me and dockrat had some beef because he was denying it when lime told me. that he suggested to put calcium carb as a ph buffer in there. plus i noticed what it was from the start from jeetered/lime post of his coir recipe here b4 it got deleted. that is why i ask lime about it.

then i did decide to try fast bast  and it had 75% or more of the sand and the rest looked  like fine vermiculite. it didnt preform well at all for me.  of course this is b4 you bought the company. then lime sent me some in the mail that looked way different which came from the 1st product. it did work but  lime also suggest not to use the new product do to it cause long skinny fruits. that just regular poo/straw is what he went back too. "

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Its worth a try