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Gulfripper
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: CAP_TURTLE] 1
#13686104 - 12/26/10 10:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If your doing the regular 2:1:1 fo 5 brf jars. Where would you add the spent coffee and how much?
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CAP_TURTLE
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Gulfripper]
#13686148 - 12/26/10 10:39 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gulfripper said: If your doing the regular 2:1:1 fo 5 brf jars. Where would you add the spent coffee and how much?
I thought maybe he was talking about using actual diluted(probably pretty heavily diluted) coffee in place of the water?
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
#13686168 - 12/26/10 10:50 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Flour is incredibly combustible.
Consider omitting that step for safety, the water content of BRF is likely negligible.
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CAP_TURTLE
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686246 - 12/26/10 11:14 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Victarius said: Flour is incredibly combustible.
Consider omitting that step for safety, the water content of BRF is likely negligible.
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kdmmontana


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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: CAP_TURTLE]
#13686254 - 12/26/10 11:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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CAP_TURTLE said: When I say "tamp" I'm refering to what is written in the original pf tek. It calls for you to fill the jars to the rim then tap the bottoms of the jars till the substrate level falls to 1/2" or so below the rim. I did this years ago and in my first set when i started again before i realised people weren't doing this anymore. I did another set of jars nearly 2 weeks later not doing this and both sets colonised fully at the same time. Now as for your micropore taping the holes, I also experimented with this and not having the micropore tape over the holes (my holes are fairly small, the size of a small nail) provided for faster colonisation it seemed and even if it wasn't the micropore tape isn't necessary so long as you have the added dry verm layer and aren't playing with your jars too much(though I was often guilty of this and still had no problems). So to sum it all up if your "tamping" your jars, try not doing it. And maybe try removing the micropore tape, although if it was me and my cakes were almost colonised I would just leave it on for this round as the added fae in your jar could cause premature pinning. It did for me but i also turned them upside down :/ also probably drawing in fresh air. Sorry for the book. lol
I used the exact same method as you described, i tap the jars until the substrate is level and then I add the dry Verm layer. As for the holes, my holes are quite large, so they should do their air exchange just fine and the Micropore tape hasnt caused any problems. All jars have been growing just great with 2 layers. But we all have different experiences.
I have heard two versions of the Micropore story several times. Some people say use it, others dont. I havent so far seen any real cause not to use it so I am sticking with it. Later on I will whip up a batch of test experimental jars (and I will examine these methods carefully), but right now, im keeping everything stable...
As for the FAE, early pinning was an issue I feared, but Ive been checking in on my jars and they all seem healthy and no pins. So far, nothing has happened.
As for the coffee and honeywater that I used, this is how I did it. *this is merely a demonstration of my methods and no real advice, the PF TEK will be with you, always..":P
First I measure up my BRF and Verm and place them in to separate bowls, then I add the water to the Verm. I follow the recipes, except I pour in additional honeywater and coffee (not grounds, fresh from the pot) This causes of course, too much water, but this is solved simply by straining (using a collinder) until the Verm is carrying the correct amount of water. I used my eye for measurement, if there are only a few drops pooling at the bottom of the bowl when the subtrate is squeezed, its right about on the money. Then I add my BRF this is where I get careful, because too little BRF will cause a too wet substrate, so I add a little by little until I notice that its correct. Then I load my jars and into the steamer they go...
You could of course measure up the proper amounts of water directly and add the coffee and honeywater into that instead, but theres a downside to this and its that one never knows how much of the stuff actually goes in there. When I strain it, only miniscule levels remain in the substrate (and also, i dont have the problem of uneven dispersion) and personally, I think thats better. But the best is of course the PF TEK, simple and easy. I just found that this works for me:) All of the above were experimental and was used on 2 batches of PF Jars, both are doing great:)
Here are 3 Pictures of the coffee jars! Have fun!



I still dont know if there is any upside to using honeywater, but it doesnt seem to cause any problems so far:) But Im still waiting for a fact here.
Bless, Kdmmontana
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686322 - 12/26/10 11:37 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bake your ingredients first. Lay out the BRF in a pyrex dish or baking pan, as well as a whole bunch of verm in another. Bake at 275 for about 30 minutes.
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kdmmontana


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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686353 - 12/26/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can Imagine what it looks like in a fan oven..Woooosh!
Fecking great video!

Bless!
Edited by kdmmontana (12/26/10 11:56 AM)
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686394 - 12/26/10 12:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh my mistake, I was referencing the OP.
'Twas deed a clerical error!
For this terrible grievance, I shall trudge my way to the gallows, for a short drop and sudden stop :P
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kdmmontana


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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686410 - 12/26/10 12:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh dear sir, that shallnt be necessary. I had a penny stuck in my ear and wasnt listening, i thought wrongly of thee dear sir..but shall it happen again..we shall duel with muskets instead of pistols..:P
By the way dear sir, hast thou taken a shine to my photographs yet, even tis it only the year of our lord 1546 and cameras havent been invented yet..wouldst thou say they look a merry sight..or are they awful...dear sir..
Edited by kdmmontana (12/26/10 12:12 PM)
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686466 - 12/26/10 12:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh captain! those witchcraft paintings are absolutely marvelous!
very even colonization with healthy mycelia, im green with envy. You used brew of the coffee bean to achieve such magnanimous results?
As for our duel, 10 paces and fire... with CANNONS!
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kdmmontana


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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686480 - 12/26/10 12:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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tis was witchbrew of coffee bush yes, prepared with the recipe above dear sir...tis lighting my heart with a merry flame that thou hast envy..tis means my witchcraft was purposeful and right..shallnt you try it dear sir?
I raise you one on the duel, lets say 20 paces and BATTLESHIPS!
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686519 - 12/26/10 12:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hath been brooding to douse me grains in the steeped essence of coffee for quiet some time now. The pioneer heself, roger the rabbitbeard, persuaded me with his talks of grand booty to be had with brew.
As per our duel. I call your bluff and raise you 30 paces with... ORBITAL BOMBARDMENTS!
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shroomtastic89
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686540 - 12/26/10 12:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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great tips
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kdmmontana


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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13686556 - 12/26/10 12:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, quite..
Tis RogerRabbitbeard Ive heard of..a mighty wizard none the less, I also took part in his witchcraft teachings..they say he lives far far away on a mountain..
As for the duel dear sir..you are being outrageosly pompous iwth you so called "orbital" borbardements, havent the dear sir heard that the earth is flat!? Tis is a great hedonism against his holiness the pope, tis requires me to take my quilt and ink and write his holiness on the matter...he shall not be pleased..
I raise you none the less, 40 PACES WITH AN ARMY OF ANGELS, OF GODS OWN STOCK!
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686568 - 12/26/10 01:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maharishi_2_U
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686573 - 12/26/10 01:01 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mmmmmmm kay
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Base Icks



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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Maharishi_2_U]
#13686586 - 12/26/10 01:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its

Now get it right.
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Victarius
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: kdmmontana]
#13686620 - 12/26/10 01:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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kdmmontana said: I raise you none the less, 40 PACES WITH AN ARMY OF ANGELS, OF GODS OWN STOCK!

I concede, no way to top that!
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CAP_TURTLE
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Re: Tweaking PF jars for super fast colonization! [Re: Victarius]
#13690942 - 12/27/10 01:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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schweinhundert
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I read great things about adding some gypsum to your brown rice mix in this thread. Seems to give a major boost, gonna try that and coffee next time! Read on: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613
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