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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Neuron]
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Good luck OP. I have a long history with booze, and a lot of these stories and comments in this thread hit home. I quit drinking myself about 3 months ago which has been my longest dry run in almost two decades. The funny thing is, I haven't had any really terrible episodes in years, with the exception of a few hangovers, but I got pretty sick of drinking 5-10 beers a day, every single day without fail.

I really envy those who are able to moderate, but I am not one of them. It is much easier for me to not drink at all than to impose some arbitrary limit, because eventually I will derail . . . always have. I sure do miss delicious beer though :sad:

Good luck to all of those that struggle with booze.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: subject]
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subject said:
sounds like a very high dose of an entheogen of some sort could help you sort some stuff out.
hallucinogens can help people beat addiction by letting them analyze their behavior from a radical perspective




While this is very true, its bad advice in this situation because he is already aware its a problem.

I dont know what to say man. I started only having a glass of wine a night because I was sick of the effects from over drinking. The hangover the next day, lack of control, inability to function.....are all reasons why I drink in moderation. That and constant acid reflux from growing up and throwing up due to alcohol have gave me an ulcer in my esophagus. Now every time my acid reflux acts up I have minor stabbing pain in my throat/chest area :sad:


Its funny but all the times I made major life changes was when I had a metaphorical gun to my head.

I decided school was important once I was shipped a thousand miles away from home and placed in a bootcamp type environment where school was how you earned your freedom.

I decided maybe drugs should be used in Moderation when I was placed on probation and not allowed to have any drugs or risked jail time

I decided moderation with alcohol was important once I noticed a few health problems

I changed my view on how "important" the psychedelic experience really is; once I started noticing how weird my thoughts/world views were getting.

I noticed how important it is to control your women, once I realized girls have no idea what the fuck they are doing and need a man to dominate and make sure they dont run their lifes/relationship into the ground




Dont wait until your life has serious consequences emerging in order to change shit. HOwever if thats what it takes.....theres nothing wrong with that :yesnod: but your gonna have to pick up the pieces. Dont wait until you get a DUI or need a liver transplant to change your ways.

Good luck, I have faith in you. You would be surprised how motivating fear can be :onfire:....but allowing yourself to be motivated by good intentions is allot better/enjoyable than fear :bliss:


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

Edited by Almond Flour (09/24/09 12:40 PM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
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I thought you had a good post there for a minute, but you managed to Tea it up somehow:

Tea said:
I noticed how important it is to control your women, once I realized girls have no idea what the fuck they are doing and need a man to dominate and make sure they dont run their lifes/relationship into the ground




:dudewtf:


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Best of luck to you man in whatever course of action you decide to take, just make sure you try


BTW,  Check these links

studies are showing Topiramate can block excess dopamine from alcohol consumption

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/meds/a/aa030517.htm

Quote:
The study involved 103 alcoholics over a three month period. Of the 103 heavy drinkers, 55 were given topiramate, while 48 were given a placebo. Both groups received counseling throughout the trial. The results of the study included:

After 3 months, 13 out of the 55 in the topiramate group, or 24 percent, had abstained continuously for a month. Only two out of 48 in the placebo group, or 4 percent, had a month sober.
In the topiramate group, 28 out of 55, or 50 percent, did not binge in the final month, compared with eight out of 48, or 16 percent, of those taking the placebo. Those taking the drug were nearly four times less likely to binge.
Half of the topiramate group reported less craving for alcohol, compared to a 15 percent in the placebo group.




I believe it is non prescription and you can buy it online or in some pharmacies

Also if the herb high will help you not drink, try some JWH-018 if you havent already, its cheap as hell, easy to get, safe (going by current research) and JUST like a weed high


My only advice on the subject though is this, if you are serious about trying to quit something then you have to commit 100% and just tell yourself, fuck this I dont want to poison myself there are much better ways to feel good that arent killing you on the inside

Once again, Good luck.

~~Ryan :mushroom2:

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Swyfty Swyf said:
I thought you had a good post there for a minute, but you managed to Tea it up somehow:

Tea said:
I noticed how important it is to control your women, once I realized girls have no idea what the fuck they are doing and need a man to dominate and make sure they dont run their lifes/relationship into the ground




:dudewtf:



Agreed.

I'm very sensitive to alcohol, so I don't need to drink much at all to enjoy myself. Four beers is usually where I like to be.

If I don't pay attention to the amount I consume then I'll get way too drunk and end up puking all night. It took several experiences before I started to realize this, but it's motivated me to pay attention to how much I drink, and not get stupid drunk.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Acaterpillar]
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On tv,I saw a mountain of a man drink over 30 pints(a pint is 568ml so over 17 litres) of beer on a night out and ordered over 5 meals at his local Chinese restaurant after.

He said it was a weekly occurance.

Was on some show like Booze Britain. That's a savage amount of beer.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Almond Flour] * 1
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Tea said:
I noticed how important it is to control your women, once I realized girls have no idea what the fuck they are doing and need a man to dominate and make sure they dont run their lifes/relationship into the ground:



Really Man?  I feel sick whenever I hear/see something like this.  The statement you made is absolutely disgusting.  This sort of thinking has gotten humankind into so many problems in the past.  Please take some time to re-evaluate your worldview.

Edited by esyflyr (09/24/09 03:47 PM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: esyflyr]
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Tea said:
I noticed how important it is to control your women, once I realized girls have no idea what the fuck they are doing and need a man to dominate and make sure they dont run their lifes/relationship into the ground:



You are gonna live a lonely and depressing life.

I guess I do agree with you to some extent though.  Most females do kind of fit that stereotype, just like most males are ignorant dumb assholes.

However, there certainly are females out there who are intelligent and capable of handling their own lives.  As long as you have an attitude like that you will be destined to only date the shitty girls who fit your mold.


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[quote]Coaster said:
so i had a seizure at D-land on acid and i promised myself in the emergency room that i would never do acid again. but i fuckin love it so much im convincing myself to jus take lower doses. do u thnk ill seizure up again cuz las week i did shrooms and K and my muscles were twitchin like a seizure and i was afraid it was gonna happen again. would u do it again, riskin hospitolization or even death? [/quote]

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Zen Meditation, every day  :levitate:


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: iliekketamina]
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There seems to be allot of hate towards some of my comments. Maybe thats why 10 people have me on ignore (apparently I keep it a little too real for some  :flipthebird: ).

In my defense though, please keep in mind the comment quoted above multiple times stems from a deep hurt with my last girlfriend :sad: Even though I feel this way to a certain extent, I am in no way shape or form a womanizer who doesn't know how to respect women.


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Hippies and Liberals love Pope Francis, so why dont I quote him for you guys. "There is NO SALVATION outside the Catholic Church" :morningtoke:

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Almond Flour]
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It's nothing personal dude.

I just thought it was weird that you made that comment when you did.

It didn't really even apply to anything else you were talking about.

Anyway, lots of people agree with you about that.

The preacher that married my wife and I basically said the same thing.

We weren't impressed.


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If you build it they will shrug.
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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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I don't like most alcohols. Don't like the taste, the feeling, the effect... Don't like alcohol, don't drink it. :smile:


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: SpaceSailor]
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That's good because the mugs are all upside down down under.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I'm with everyone who says you should find a new group of friends, or just don't hang out with drinkers. It seems to be your main trigger.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: claraclairvoyant]
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claraclairvoyant said:
I'm with everyone who says you should find a new group of friends, or just don't hang out with drinkers. It seems to be your main trigger.



I think thats the biggest influence
I have ALOT of those friends and im honest with
them when they ask me to go to the bar with them
I tell them "I have a problem" and id rather not start drinking
again.They are all cool about it

  -noobie-


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CapZilla said:
not sure what GE and FAE are but i should probably get some.

Citric said:
Your signature is wrong on colonization temps!

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: noobieshroomie]
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Secret to not drinking = smokin buds

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Jockin John C]
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Jockin John C said:
just smoke pot dude, problem solved.  Alcohol sucks compared to my girl mary jane.



x a million.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Nibin]
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Nibin said:
Do you not drink a while and then go on uncontrollable binges?

If so, if I were you I would go and visit a doctor. It sounds just like my grandfather who hada tad of bipolar disorder (a.k.a manic depression). He'd be fine for days then go on a month long binge. Everything he tried to stop drinking just went straight out of the window when he got really down.

It ended up killing him (health problems).



Yes; I am diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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So what, its not a disease its called being human. Learn from mistakes


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Shroomism]
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I ignore the diagnosis unless someone specifically inquires; I dont like to pigeon hole myself.

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