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What's the secret to not drinking?
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How can some people only have 2-3 drinks socially and stop right there? What is your secret?

Ive tried everything to quit. Cold turkey, weaning, benzos, not buying it, consuming only beer(no liquor, wine, etc), sweats, workouts, liver detoxifying, psilocybin, lsd, not going to bars, etc, etc, etc.

I am so pathetic I want to kill myself. Everyone else knows it too.

Im no longer on month long binges; but like Ill make it like half a week to a week tops and then Ill buckle.
It's always when someone(a heavy drinker) offers to hang out. I go over there with full knowledge of whats gonna happen(this is probably where I fuck up). They persuade me into having one drink. Before I know it I am TANKED and I black out.

It's sick and I hate myself for it. I try so hard not to drink. It sounds fucking easy "just dont drink" why the fuck cant I resist it?

I drank on monday the 7th; I was able to make it all the way until Tuesday the 15th when a friend offered me beer. I ended up drinking a case(split between 2 of us) that night; and a case the next night. I only intended on having a couple and I drank about 18+. The next day I also drank more of the case than he did; and I chugged the rum.

I detoxed, sweat, etc. I made it until Tuesday the 22nd and I fucked up again. I was driving by and I saw my friend at the liquor store. I thought Id "pop in and say hi"; idiot me. I go in there he's all "hey man Im buying a 40" so I say well heck they are on sale Ill get a couple tallboys. I buy the tallboys go back to his place and drink with him. Another friend of his comes over and talks about getting a 12 pack. I offer to drive him there thinking "I cant let him walk" but really Im thinking "well Ive already got 2 in me; no harm". I end up drinking 7 of those.

What's the secret to not drinking? Im not having month long binges anymore but I DONT WANT TO DRINK AT ALL.

I do not enjoy being wasted (every time I drink I get wasted; I try limiting but it doesn't work), I dont enjoy being drunk, I dont enjoy being around drunk people and I dont even like being mildly buzzed.

When I first started drinking I drank to get rid of social anxiety but I dont have that anymore. It's like I have this certain thirst that only a cold beer can quench. It's like I go on autopilot as soon as I have that ONE drink and by the end of the night Im sloshed.

Again; as I said; I dont buy it anymore. It's usually my "friends" who buy me free booze so that they can have someone along to validate their own drinking. I dont even ask them; I am usually hesitant first and they give me the whole "oh c'mon you can have one" like youve seen in the movies.



Ive already made it SOME ground; I used to drink 1/4 keg + 3 40ozs + pint of gin + half a box of wine in a night and still be standing in the morning.(not counting sips I bummed off other people's drinks)



Im willing to do whatever it takes to quit for good. Should I cut off my friendships with these people? I know I cant even be around alcohol or I drink it.

Edited by MisterMuscaria (09/24/09 07:21 AM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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sounds like a very high dose of an entheogen of some sort could help you sort some stuff out.
hallucinogens can help people beat addiction by letting them analyze their behavior from a radical perspective


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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:shrug: dont get a bunch? i have a problem with stopping when i get plastered. Im not violent or anything, just retarded and after i blackout i want to drink ALL the alcohol. :lol:

but i drink about 4-5 beers a day more if im trying to get drunk. but most days i get a 4 pack and nurse it all night.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: sui]
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suimush said:
:shrug: dont get a bunch? i have a problem with stopping when i get plastered. Im not violent or anything, just retarded and after i blackout i want to drink ALL the alcohol. :lol:

but i drink about 4-5 beers a day more if im trying to get drunk. but most days i get a 4 pack and nurse it all night.


After I get mildy buzzed I want to drink all the alcohol and if there is no more I want to buy more.

Also; the entheogen approach doesnt work for me. Im impervious to it from tripping weekly during regular alcohol abuse.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: sui]
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I just got so sick of drinking I just didn't like it anymore. I can never drink more than 2-3 drinks before i just feel like im poisoning myself. Id rather smoke a bowl any day.


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~The Cultivators Motherload~

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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AA + completely changing your circle of friends

BTW How did you fit that much liquid in your system?? - you are talking about 615 oz of beer alone. Plus another 50 of wine.  I couldn't do that with water.


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Kada]
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I dont like it anymore either. I feel like Im poisoning myself the whole time. I dont even like being buzzed. Id also rather smoke a bowl any day.

My slowing down shows that I am "getting to that point" I think where I WILL quit; it's just a matter of how. Id like to do whatever it takes to never drink again. I wish I could pay $20 for a magic pill that would make me never drink again.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I used to drink 15 cans every 2-3 days for years, started having an amphetamine binge once a week to once a fortnight and it turned me right off it. Within 6 months i wasn't drinking at all, it just didn't taste the same anymore and i didn't find it enjoyable

I never got hooked on speed, and i don't take it at all anymore.

Best thing i ever did,, :lol:.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Radar]
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Radar said:
AA + completely changing your circle of friends

BTW How did you fit that much liquid in your system?? - you are talking about 615 oz of beer alone. Plus another 50 of wine.  I couldn't do that with water.


I dont know how I did it. I had a Big Gulp cup that I filled up and chugged about 5 times.
1/4 keg was over exaggeration.

I had 100s of ozs of liquid through my system that day (started in the morning through till the am hours)

all I had that day was booze; no water; nothing. I pissed alot.

I wasnt imagining it.


I drink gallons of water in a day.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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just smoke pot dude, problem solved.  Alcohol sucks compared to my girl mary jane.

Edited by Jockin John C (09/24/09 07:35 AM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Jockin John C]
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Id love to; but no money, no connection, nowhere to grow.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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just gotta have the mind set on only drinking 1 or 2.

also drinkin water between beers helps.


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:minifo:] "This promise constitutes the heart of my Christian beliefs and my call to natural-scientific research: we will attain to knowledge of the universe through the spirit of truth, and thereby to understanding of our being one with the deepest, most comprehensive reality, God."
-Albert Hofmann

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Quote:
I used to drink 1/4 keg + 3 40ozs + pint of gin + half a box of wine in a night and still be standing in the morning.(not counting sips I bummed off other people's drinks)



dude.  what the fuck?  that's like the iron man of drinking.  if i drank a quarter of that, i'd probably get alcohol poisoning and puke my guts out.  i feel like you have to literally train yourself to be able to drink that much. 

and if you're able to drink that much, then why the fuck does one beer put you into autopilot?  if you've got a tolerance like that, one beer shouldn't have any effect whatsoever on your inhibitions.  i don't really have any advice, because i can't even begin to comprehend your problem.  but goddamn that's a shitton of alcohol.  i personally enjoy alcohol, but it's to the extent of like 2-4 beers a night and 2-4 drunken weekend evenings.  but even those drunken weekend evenings rarely end in me getting too out of control or blacking out or anything.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: sui]
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Yeah, I used to drink too much and I knew I wasn't in control.

One night, something spoke to me and told me that if I did not make a drastic change then I would lose everything.

I could feel the future dereliction in the air.

Well the next day was just like any other day, except I went to an NA meeting, since I was also having problems with pain medicine and coke.

I went to the meetings religiously for a couple of years (but no, I did not push my agenda on anyone) and then I stayed clean on my own for a couple of years.

I was lucky to have the love of a good woman and I think that helped me to stay happy and serene for the most part.

Of coarse after being clean for nearly four years, I was having mixed feelings about my desire to cut loose.

I didn't know if I was trying to fool myself into falling into the same patterns.

I think that vantage point was exactly what I needed, because for the past three years or so I have very rarely drank too much. 

I have some kind of aversion to alcohol now that I never had in my youth.

I used to have a few beers, get a buzz and feel good, then slam beers until I was sick.

Nowadays I have a few beers, get a buzz and feel good, and I get the feeling that it will not get any better from that point.  I have just been freed from the urge to overdo it.

It's probably just a typical negative reinforcement situation.  I like to get stupid drunk, but I hate the hangover so I do what I must to avoid it.


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If you build it they will shrug.
:shrug:

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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Where do you live that there is no pot connection? I thought this was only myth in todays america.

Edited by Jockin John C (09/24/09 07:49 AM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: subject]
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subject said:
sounds like a very high dose of an entheogen of some sort could help you sort some stuff out.
hallucinogens can help people beat addiction by letting them analyze their behavior from a radical perspective


:nonono:


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Doctor_Dick]
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Google - Alcoholic Anonymous
Find Meeting in your area
Go to it
Find someone who looks like they know what they are doing
Talk to them
Tell them what you told us
Do EXACTLY what they say

And Change ALL your friends


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We have not even to risk the adventure alone, for the heroes of all time have gone before us — the labyrinth is thoroughly known. We have only to follow the thread of the hero path, and where we had thought to find an abomination, we shall find a god; where we had thought to slay another, we shall slay ourselves; where we had thought to travel outward, we shall come to the center of our own existence. And where we had thought to be alone, we shall be with all the world.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Radar]
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That's what I did for awhile.

A lot of folks might think that would suck balls or w/e, but I look back on that time of my life with very fond memories.

It was an exciting time to be sober after I had been a very unsuccessful drug abuser for 10 years.

I'm not trying to push the program on anyone though.

Everyone has a different path to follow.


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If you build it they will shrug.
:shrug:

Edited by Swyfty Swyf (09/24/09 08:03 AM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11117873 -

instead of drinking take like a low dose of mushrooms. you wont need to drink as much to have fun.


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:minifo:] "This promise constitutes the heart of my Christian beliefs and my call to natural-scientific research: we will attain to knowledge of the universe through the spirit of truth, and thereby to understanding of our being one with the deepest, most comprehensive reality, God."
-Albert Hofmann

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Doctor_Dick]
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This dude is a Rainbow.

He already said the entheogens won't work for him.


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If you build it they will shrug.
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