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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Radar]
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NA meetings tell you to quit everything.

The creator of AA was pro-LSD and many of the members toke.

I do not have the financial means for rehab.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
That was over exaggeration on the 1/4 keg. I only had about 5 big gulps full of beer off that.
I only had about 1/4 of the box of wine.
It was still a shitton to drink.



Alright so you got wasted... we've all been there. But 5 gulps of a keg is more like 1/125 than 1/4... lol

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
I'm sorry but no one can drink that much...





You would be VERY surprised to see how much some people can drink... It does seem inhuman. :yesnod:

If someone (an alcoholic) builds up a large tolerance to alcohol on top of an already tough genetic tolerance... They can drink insane amounts of alcohol. INSANE AMOUNTS.

It's kinda like oxy pills... people with huge tolerance can EASILY gobble up what would kill a normal person without their body pitching a fit (puking).

In my heyday, I would easily drink 20+ bottles of Miller Lite at a party along with shots... On my 21st birthday I drank 30+ drinks and threatened to beat up my karate instructor. :shrug:

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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I dont even eat towards the end of the binges. My whole caloric intake came from beer and wine.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
MisterMuscaria said:
That was over exaggeration on the 1/4 keg. I only had about 5 big gulps full of beer off that.
I only had about 1/4 of the box of wine.
It was still a shitton to drink.



Alright so you got wasted... we've all been there. But 5 gulps of a keg is more like 1/125 than 1/4... lol



It's still a couple hundred ounces of beer. A biggulp is BIG.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
But 5 gulps of a keg is more like 1/125 than 1/4... lol





He means 7-11 Big Gulps.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: NubeEnLaMontana]
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NubeEnLaMontana said:
or, possibly, they don't like feeling like shit all the time.  Maybe showing up at work and seeing the next 8 hours of fierce hangover stretched out in front of them sucks.  That was a pretty big factor for me.



Hang overs suck.  but i deal with them, and if you drink often you just stop getting hangovers all together.

Weed makes me drink less...

and at rooster, yeah you are prolly a lot older than me.  I will prolly see the same once i get there.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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RoosterCogburn said:
In my heyday, I would easily drink 20+ bottles of Miller Lite at a party along with shots... On my 21st birthday I drank 30+ drinks and threatened to beat up my karate instructor. :shrug:



Haha, the last person you would want to pick a fight with? I gave up my 3 night a week drinking. I would turn into such an asshole when I was blackout. I knew I had a problem when I was harpooning pool sticks at bars. Alcohol can be such a great drug in the right dosage, but most people can never get that right. Overall I think our planet would be better without it.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Beeing an alcoholic really has NOTHING  to do with the quantities involved. If you can drink all nightlong, get the shakes, puke , cry, piss yourself AND STILL have fun and support yourself,  and if you have a family  - keep them happy and fullfilled,  then you DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

And sometimes its a trade off - getting drunk to have fun can be worth the pain of a hangover just as a big mountain big ride can be worth the soreness and tiredness that results.

BUT

If you are unhappy and not having fun, then you need to stop. Even if you are just drinking 3 winecoolers once a week.  If those 3 winecoolers are hurting the aspects of your life you don't want hurt , stop.

And if you can't stop  - and you want to - go ask for help.

Real help.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Radar]
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If 3 wine coolers a week ruin your life youve got bigger problems than alcohol.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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I could never stop myself at 2 or 3 drinks either. Once I had a taste, it was over.

For me, I just had to stop completely. Don't go to bars, don't hang out with other people that drink, don't go places that have alcohol. Period. If you do those things, you are setting yourself up to fail. No alcoholic has the willpower to be hanging around drunk people and be able to stay sober.  If you can't do it on your own then get yourself in an AA meetup. Drinking is not worth hating yourself and wanting to die. You have to help yourself.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
If 3 wine coolers a week ruin your life youve got bigger problems than alcohol.



Agreed BUT still need to cut them out.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
I don't know what to tell ya man.  Me and my group of friends drink pretty much everyday, we all get the shakes, insomnia, anxiety when we don't drink at night.  And my alcohol use isn't "i need to drink to escape reality" its more of "I don't know how to have fun unless im drunk"  Good luck man, i don't know what to tell you, i don't get how people can half 3-4 drinks and stop.  I think for the most part people that do stop are either scared of what they are like when they get drunk.  Or they are scared because they are pussies:shrug:




I stop drinking after about three beers or two to three glasses of wine because most of my friends are alcoholics and, frankly, they act like complete fucking retards after about 11:oopm (mean, irrational, egotistical ect.)  I thought it may have just been my friends but as I hang around various groups the results of large amounts of alcohol consumtion are pretty consistent.

this statement just really pissed me off becouse it seems to be a pretty common thing among drunks to call people pussies as some sort of weak ass defense of their self indulgent asshole addiction.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
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How can some people only have 2-3 drinks socially and stop right there? What is your secret?




Alcohol would fucking DESTROY me if I abused it. I do not drink to the point of loosing my bearings. I rarely drink at all. I have a bigger problem holding my milk, than my booze.

I'm living your dream of moderation. I typically drink one glass a week on average, so 4-5 in a month. I'm 36 years old. Me drinking more than ten glasses of alcohol in a sitting? That happened four or five times in my life.

1-5 glasses, thats it for me.

I drink for flavor, and a mild intoxication. I have a bottle of delicious high-end Absinthe. Stupid-expensive absinthe. What Were You Thinking-expensive. I can afford it; it will last me several years. I drink one glass at most and savor the shit out of it. Finish my glass, I'm done.

I think what happens to you is that you give yourself effective excuses to let gluttony take over.  "If so and so, then to hell with it"

I have that a bit with MDMA. Put a gram in front of me right now, and tomorrow at the same time come back and there isn;'t a milligram left, just an elatedly grinning obese guy who obviously hasnt slept, showered or eaten in 24 hours :yesnod: I wouldnt even regret it properly, nor would I have gotten sick. (2-3 days after is another story tho)

My solution: theres not a milligram of MDMA in my house, unless its intended for immediate consumption. I don't seek out connections for it.

I took it last, at christmas and I'm skipping a year so only around next christmas will I and my friends imbide again.

I think I'm about 2 ounces away from the point where MDMA's benefits will outweigh the negatives, and plan to stretch that.


What you should do is tell you friends you love them and all, but that you';ll avoid them if any kind of drinking is involved. Alcohol is destroying you, continue on this path and you'll turn into a sickly tard. Brain damage, a ton of ailments all at once.

Avoid drinking situations, break the abuse pattern. Its one of the hardest things that can be asked of you but if you do, you saved your life. The ante is high but so is the reward.

AA can help, but in the end its you who has to do the work and say to yourself: 
THIS IS DESTROYING ME, I WON'T DRINK A SINGLE GLASS EVER AGAIN.

I don't believe in moderation with your drinking, or my smoking. If you quit, quit 100%.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Asante]
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Good advice; Ill do that.

I made it a couple months earlier this year without drinking. I felt entirely disgusted with myself when I fell off that horse and started binging again.

Ive never tried real absinthe; but I reckon I dont need to.

It was the "ooooh Ive never tried that one" that got me into a relapse.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Asante]
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Whats up buddy, I wish you the best of luck.
I myself was heavy into drinking.It has caused me to loose jobs
possessions,friends even family.My drinking even caused me and my wife
to split up after 5 years.

I too couldnt just stop at 1 beer
I would get a 30 pack of cheap ass beer drink half of that and
still want more. So I would drive(i know not smart)to get more.

After that was gone I would find myself still wanting more.
It took me going to prison(alcohol related)before I realized I needed
to change something.I had some time to really think about my life and
where it was headed.Plus I have 2 little kids, I thought about their future as well.

All the money I have spent drinking, I could only imaging
what they would have if I had saved some of that money.
Not to mention I have 2 DUI's and have not had a license since 03.

Trust me when I say you need to stop.I know its hard but it can be done
you might have to stop hanging around your"friends"who drink all the time.

Maybe even a change of location.
I have personally found meetings
didnt work for me. All the talking about drinking made me want to do it even more. But they do work for some.

If you ever need to talk Im there for ya man
PM me anytime. I wish you the best of luck

  -noobie-

Edited by noobieshroomie (09/24/09 06:21 PM)

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Do you not drink a while and then go on uncontrollable binges?

If so, if I were you I would go and visit a doctor. It sounds just like my grandfather who hada tad of bipolar disorder (a.k.a manic depression). He'd be fine for days then go on a month long binge. Everything he tried to stop drinking just went straight out of the window when he got really down.

It ended up killing him (health problems).


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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you need to trip more than you drink :mushroom2:


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Yes, it is. The shine stands for his job title, which is Shoe Shiner, the moon stands for the time he comes out to be a nigger, which is best suited for the negroid camouflage.

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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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MisterMuscaria said:
How can some people only have 2-3 drinks socially and stop right there? What is your secret?

Ive tried everything to quit. Cold turkey, weaning, benzos, not buying it, consuming only beer(no liquor, wine, etc), sweats, workouts, liver detoxifying, psilocybin, lsd, not going to bars, etc, etc, etc.

I am so pathetic I want to kill myself. Everyone else knows it too.

Im no longer on month long binges; but like Ill make it like half a week to a week tops and then Ill buckle.
It's always when someone(a heavy drinker) offers to hang out. I go over there with full knowledge of whats gonna happen(this is probably where I fuck up). They persuade me into having one drink. Before I know it I am TANKED and I black out.

It's sick and I hate myself for it. I try so hard not to drink. It sounds fucking easy "just dont drink" why the fuck cant I resist it?

I drank on monday the 7th; I was able to make it all the way until Tuesday the 15th when a friend offered me beer. I ended up drinking a case(split between 2 of us) that night; and a case the next night. I only intended on having a couple and I drank about 18+. The next day I also drank more of the case than he did; and I chugged the rum.

I detoxed, sweat, etc. I made it until Tuesday the 22nd and I fucked up again. I was driving by and I saw my friend at the liquor store. I thought Id "pop in and say hi"; idiot me. I go in there he's all "hey man Im buying a 40" so I say well heck they are on sale Ill get a couple tallboys. I buy the tallboys go back to his place and drink with him. Another friend of his comes over and talks about getting a 12 pack. I offer to drive him there thinking "I cant let him walk" but really Im thinking "well Ive already got 2 in me; no harm". I end up drinking 7 of those.

What's the secret to not drinking? Im not having month long binges anymore but I DONT WANT TO DRINK AT ALL.

I do not enjoy being wasted (every time I drink I get wasted; I try limiting but it doesn't work), I dont enjoy being drunk, I dont enjoy being around drunk people and I dont even like being mildly buzzed.

When I first started drinking I drank to get rid of social anxiety but I dont have that anymore. It's like I have this certain thirst that only a cold beer can quench. It's like I go on autopilot as soon as I have that ONE drink and by the end of the night Im sloshed.

Again; as I said; I dont buy it anymore. It's usually my "friends" who buy me free booze so that they can have someone along to validate their own drinking. I dont even ask them; I am usually hesitant first and they give me the whole "oh c'mon you can have one" like youve seen in the movies.



Ive already made it SOME ground; I used to drink 1/4 keg + 3 40ozs + pint of gin + half a box of wine in a night and still be standing in the morning.(not counting sips I bummed off other people's drinks)



Im willing to do whatever it takes to quit for good. Should I cut off my friendships with these people? I know I cant even be around alcohol or I drink it.



you are an alcoholic.


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Re: What's the secret to not drinking? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
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I dislike alcohol personally, 2-3 drinks is more than enough for me.


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