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Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general
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I just have to talk about this--I was reading a pamphlet from the church I occasionaly go to. Well I haven't gone in about 6 months but I had this pamphlet laying around.
Anyway, It was talking about how humans have always tried to fulill the gap to the secrets of eternal life and happiness and yada yada yada. There was an illustration that showed a man on one side of a cliff, with a valley separating him from the other end. Branching out from the cliff were four things, 'philosophy, religion, good deeds, meditation'.
This damn picture was implying that all of these things were man's attempt at finding eternal peace, but in the end they all failed because 'god' is the only thing that can bring you to having eternal peace.
Upon seeing this, I couldn't help but say :wtf: and then :facepalm: for this illustration being so ludicrous. It's implying that religion can't get you to where you want to go, but GOD can. How is god different that religion? this is coming from a christian church. Is christianity not a religion? WHAT)_THE)_FUCK

(i posted this in a thread first but figured it'd get more views here)


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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Im not even sure of the question.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: upinthetrees]
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Religion can't get me to where I want to go. I don't give a flying fuck if that is the case for the guy next to me.

I'm sick and tired of all this atheism vs Christianity bullshit. Everybody just shut the fuck up and live your damn spiritual life in private. Your spirituality does not better me any more than mine betters you. My spirituality is for my purposes and that is it.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: DieCommie]
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dr_gonz said:
There's no answer, man.

GOD is the only answer. :awesome:


let's jump in cold water and call ourselves 'blessed'

Qubit said:
Im not even sure of the question.


from me?


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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: DNKYD]
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About 1/5th of the young drug addicts here are going to be thumping Bibles and Narcotics Anonymous books within 10 years.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: DNKYD]
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When the government starts telling you that you can or cannot
adopt children because of your religious affiliation

then there is a problem

When you can't hold public office based on your lack of a religious ideology

then there is a problem

Keeping your religion to yourself is fine and dandy but
when you have your rights taken away because of your lack of a religion

then there is a problem


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Don't be bogged down by your past
Don't be afraid of what lies in your future

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
About 1/5th of the young drug addicts here are going to be thumping Bibles and Narcotics Anonymous books within 10 years.


Good for them. My brother is a recovered alcoholic. His greatest tool in remaining sober? His belief in God, Christ the Savior, etc. Great for him. I'm proud of him for turning his life around. He doesn't go preaching the good will of his god to me, or his neighbors, or anybody. He used his spirituality as a tool to better himself. That's how it should be, end of fucking story.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: DNKYD]
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DNKYD said:
He doesn't go preaching the good will of his god to me, or his neighbors, or anybody.


Sure he does.  The most important thing for an AA to remain sober is to 'carry the message'.

Quote:
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.


He may not do it to you but he does it to others.  He's probably waiting for you to finally get in too deep so he can rescue you and bring you to God.  :lol:

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: UpSwell]
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lol you better watch out!


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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
DNKYD said:
He doesn't go preaching the good will of his god to me, or his neighbors, or anybody.


Sure he does.  The most important thing for an AA to remain sober is to 'carry the message'.

Quote:
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.


He may not do it to you but he does it to others.  He's probably waiting for you to finally get in too deep so he can rescue you and bring you to God.  :lol:


I'm impressed, you must know his brother better than he does
:hansen:


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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: upinthetrees]
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What is God? To me it is an ambiguous word that can mean most anything depending on the context. When used with no context I'm just lost.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: claraclairvoyant]
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claraclairvoyant said:
I'm impressed



You should be, I'm an impressive individual.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: upinthetrees]
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I suggest the book, "The Disappearance of the Universe" to you. If you are curious and open to other ideas. I just finished it, and it is one of the first and only things that have ever mad since about religion and spirituality.

:smile:

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: krypto2000]
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niteowl said:
When the government starts telling you that you can or cannot
adopt children because of your religious affiliation

then there is a problem

When you can't hold public office based on your lack of a religious ideology

then there is a problem

Keeping your religion to yourself is fine and dandy but
when you have your rights taken away because of your lack of a religion

then there is a problem


religion should have no place in politics.  It seems very shady how Christianity has such a big influence on politics

krypto2000 said:
What is God? To me it is an ambiguous word that can mean most anything depending on the context. When used with no context I'm just lost.



I think G0d means a higher being

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: skatealex2]
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But to say it is higher than us, would that not be to say 'it is above our level of comprehension' which essentially means 'I don't know?'

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: UpSwell]
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UpSwell said:
Sure he does.  The most important thing for an AA to remain sober is to 'carry the message'.

He may not do it to you but he does it to others.  He's probably waiting for you to finally get in too deep so he can rescue you and bring you to God.  :lol:


You don't know shit. Remember this. You don't know shit.

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
But to say it is higher than us, would that not be to say 'it is above our level of comprehension' which essentially means 'I don't know?'


that could be. if g0d is real- I don't think it is something we can really understand.  kind of like the psychedelic world imo

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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: DNKYD]
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religion in general is used as an excuse to extort people for money, and to do bad things in general.

what the hell is a "holy war"  and i do mean those asinine quotation marks.

-CE


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Re: Just one of my many disagreements with Christianity/religion in general [Re: chemicalequation]
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That siggy is so freakin' good!:thumbup::thumbup:


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