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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: johnm214]
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:rofl:

Why am I gonna read another post about the same old crap. :shrug:

If you want a response to this post just go back and read my other posts in this thread.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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:thumbdown: You're the only one who doesn't see that you are just blowing smoke.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
:thumbdown: You're the only one who doesn't see that you are just blowing smoke.


Is that why only two or three people have something to say about it? :rolleyes:

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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It's just that every one else has given up on you.:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Icelander]
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All 3 of them? :lol:

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Icelander]
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Aren't we all just blowing smoke?  I like blowing it out of my nose like a dragon.  I think it gets me higher too.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said:
Is it corporations that are the problem? Or karma? Or a snake?


The problem is the deceiving mind, the beast within.  It is the only thing that blocks out the life coming from us in the present.  It is time to learn the truth and overcome the beast within.  We can know it consciously now, and The Present (link in the original post) reveals the unseen truth for the first time in a way that we can check it for ourselves and consciously know it.  The apocalypse (unveiling) is happening now.  The truth is being revealed, and when if and only if we learn the truth, we can begin to know the life.  It is the next step in our evolution, and it is what all of our "intelligence" is for.  Evolving into spiritual beings is the ultimate goal of mankind, of the entire evolution of life.


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..and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

DC at:  Oneness

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Jethro Tull]
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"The problem is the deceiving mind, the beast within.  It is the only thing that blocks out the life coming from us in the present.  It is time to learn the truth and overcome the beast within.  We can know it consciously now, and The Present (link in the original post) reveals the unseen truth for the first time in a way that we can check it for ourselves and consciously know it.  The apocalypse (unveiling) is happening now.  The truth is being revealed, and when if and only if we learn the truth, we can begin to know the life.  It is the next step in our evolution, and it is what all of our "intelligence" is for.  Evolving into spiritual beings is the ultimate goal of mankind, of the entire evolution of life. "

Nah I doubt it.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Jethro Tull]
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But the world is in denial, how do we break free and rise above the bullshit that hides the truth from us? (besides following the link - I would like to hear your words)

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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The only way to accept the truth is to accept that all our attempts at framing it into words are bullshit, something you obviously have not done.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: xFrockx]
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Speak for yourself, some of us are intelligent enough to understand the truth.

example: I am sitting at my computer, posting my thoughts on a public forum. - this is absolutely true.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
The only way to accept the truth is to accept that all our attempts at framing it into words are bullshit, something you obviously have not done.


So there is no way that what you're saying here is true?:shrug:

If anyone truly believed these words they would never open their mouth.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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The words themselves are in truth, but their meaning is not true itself.  Like the words, the meaning that is thought in your head is true, but these symbols are relative, and do not capture the actual events in the absolute.

"I am sitting at my computer, posting my thoughts on a public forum. - this is absolutely true. "

Its only as true as one takes seriously the idea that individual identity is really real, and not just an appearance.

Edited by xFrockx (07/30/09 03:13 PM)

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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zen buddy said:
But the world is in denial, how do we break free and rise above the bullshit that hides the truth from us? (besides following the link - I would like to hear your words)


We must separate the wheat from the chaff, the truth from the deception.  We have progressed far enough to understand the fundamental truth of life, and it will change us, and then our world, as the world is just a reflection of us.  As of now, people prefer fantasy to reality, because they are not satisfied with reality.  The truth will change that, because it shows people that they can be fulfilled by every moment of their lives, no matter what is happening.  It gives people a better option than fantasy, and that is the only way to fix a problem.  Right now, the truth is like a little spark amongst a pile of wet newspaper, a small crack in the veil of deception, because deception is almost all pervading in our collective mind.  The apocalypse (unveiling) has started now with The Truth Contest.  The truth is being revealed, we just have to build it in the collective unconscious by spreading it.  The truth will overcome deception, and we will use the sword of truth to change our minds from our overbearing, deceiving bosses, to our technical consultants, companions.

How do we break free?

Seek and you will find.  The link is just a signpost for you.  I can bend down the branch, but you must pick the fruit.

:peace:


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..and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

DC at:  Oneness

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: Jethro Tull]
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Oh jesus christ jethro, get over youreself.  I've seen you peddle your link over and over again for what seems like months, and yet you've had no ability to convince me of anything you say.  If you want a website that shows people the truth, just make a blank one.

JT, What is truth?

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
What is truth?


Obviously, the truth is something that not everyone can easily understand. Actually, some people don't want to understand and find some sort of comfort in believing that the truth is impossible to understand. It really is a wonderful way for someone to avoid feeling responsible for anything they do in life.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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"Obviously, the truth is something that not everyone can easily understand. "

That's an assertion, not a definition.  What is it, truth?  If you know it so well, it shouldn't be hard to at least define for me what it is.

Edited by xFrockx (08/01/09 09:16 AM)

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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If you really wanted the definition you wouldn't be asking us. Most people refer to a dictionary for such things.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: zen buddy]
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Not in a philosophical discussion.  You have to define your terms, otherwise you might as well not know what you are talking about.  Without this, you have no argument, and I might as well reply by saying "There is no truth" and it would stand equally as strong.  If you want to actually produce an argument, though, we can see who actually knows, or doesn't know, what they are bullshitting about.

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Re: Are We Intelligent Beings? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
Oh jesus christ jethro, get over youreself.  I've seen you peddle your link over and over again for what seems like months, and yet you've had no ability to convince me of anything you say.  If you want a website that shows people the truth, just make a blank one.

JT, What is truth?


I have no control over your mind, and I do not expect to convince you of anything.  You have to seek it for yourself and check it for yourself.  I actually agree with what you say about the blank page, but you cannot overcome the mind without the mind truth, and not everyone will understand the significance of a blank page.  They will not see the beauty, the simplicity of "it is."  Those not sitting in satisfaction with silence are not sitting in satisfaction with the truth.  I would love to just be in silence, but it is impossible in this world, because of active minds.  I can only live in the truth when I am alone or with others who know.  The mind is the dominant force.  Someone living in the mind can activate my mind, but I cannot make them turn off their mind.  That is why I am seeking, defining, and spreading truth; there is always a self-serving reason.  I seek to open up to true life as much as possible, to live without the mind trespassing on the spirit, and I will be able to do that more and more as more people wake up to the truth and get control of their minds, as more people are able to live without the mind.  It will snowball, but until then, the truth needs to be built in the collective mind of humanity.  Words are necessary to get the truth across to those who cannot see it yet, to those who are not sitting in satisfaction with silence.  Maybe you are, maybe you are not, but you did ask me what truth is...

Truth = Life, and it is found in the present.
The literal definition of truth = "that which is"


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..and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

DC at:  Oneness

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