suburbantoker said:

You will be surprised at how much weight you can lose even though you're eating constantly all day.

---

boxcarguy07 said:

IMO the healthiest diet is one of raw fruits, veggies, and meats, and no grains or dairy.

Saturated fat and cholesterol are NOT bad for you, they are essential.

---

First of all, "no grains or dairy", are you crazy?! Whole grains are the essentials. Just look at the TOTAL DAILY CALORIE Chart below...

Chart of US Percent Daily Values (exact chart on every food item "Nutritional Facts" chart)

Source of Percent Daily Valueschart---> http://www.netrition.com/rdi_page.html ;
--- Of course, you should adjust this chart to your age, sex, and exercise level (if you follow the chart, that is)

It lists "Carbohydrates" as the most essential, at 300 grams, more than any other nutrient. And this is the USDA: they are experts and take nutritional facts SERIOUSLY (since millions of Americans look at it once in awhile). And the best source to get these essential carbohydrates is whole/multi-grains, which is what I guess is what you are referring to in "grains".

As for the dairy, you half-right. Dairy products like whole milk or even 2% milk have high levels of Saturated Fat AND cholesterol, which are OK in small doses but NOT in large quantities. But skim milk and skim sour cream are perfectly healthy for you (as long as your not lactose-intolerant).

Which brings me to my next point: dairy products carries the healthy carbohydrate lactose, which is only found it milk. Like mentioned before, carbohydrates are the most essential part of any diet and lactose is a good source of complex carbohydrates. Like I mentioned before, our brains (as well as our body) runs on complex carbohydrates, and the brain uses Glucose ONLY (see below for information reference). And Lactose is actually a combination of 2 carbohydrates, glucose and galactose (Star Wars, anyone?), which has to be broken down in the stomach. This is where "lactose-intolerance" comes in: the inability to break down this complex carbohydrate. Don't believe me? Just check out the photo I took below about Milk & Carbohydrate Facts

Here's a picture I took from milkfacts.com that explains my whole "brain needs carbohydrates to work" claim (note: I couldn't do a copy-and-paste, some website restriction or something.)

>>> Milk & Carbohydrate Facts <<<


Link to page on www.milkfacts.com ----> http://www.milkfacts.info/Nutrition%20Facts/Nutritional%20Components.htm

I hope that clears the excessive misinformation about nutrition in here. Also, remember that fruits contain healthy, natural sugars that help regulate your blood sugar levels. Its the artificial, man-made sugars (aka simple carbohydrates) you should stay away from.

"Live Long and Prosper!"
~ LogicaL Chaos ~

boxcarguy07 said:

sorry man, I don't buy it.
grains are not essential at all. think about it, you have to cook them otherwise they are poison. carbohydrates are not essential WHATSOEVER, fats and protein are. Your body can make its own carbohydrates. I know people who are very healthy doing a zero-carb diet (raw meat, organs, and fat only), I even tried it for a while and did just fine.

The USDA? Are you kidding me?

---

LogicaL Chaos said:

blewmeanie, your not helping!

Just kidding, your cool with me blewmeanie.

By the way, where's that cartoon photo from? It has like a Cartoon Network feel to it. Am I close?

Trying to Keep the Peace,
~ LogicaL Chaos ~

---