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Zwieback0
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Human Shit
#1010965 - 10/31/02 05:28 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can we use human shit as compost?
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tsimehc
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if you want to compost your own shit.. or someone elses shit... but why would you? 25 lbs of cow shit is only 4 bucks
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daussaulit
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Re: Human Shit [Re: tsimehc]
#1010977 - 10/31/02 05:31 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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you can if you want, but you'll have to go on a low fat vegetarian diet for a week.
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StS
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This is a stupid question that has been brought up and frowned upon many times before. Did you bother trying a search? Have you read up anything about subtrates and nutrional value?
Edit: Oh yeah, the answer is NO.
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Edited by StS (10/31/02 05:36 PM)
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tsimehc
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hah.. thats right... it read somewhere on the forums something about the digestion that takes place in meat eaters are different then non meat eaters... so... thats why we use horse.. cow... and other dung... oh well.. i guess the only way to find out is actuall trial and error.. unless someone will whip out some scientific data on why human shit wont work....
personally i wont even try it.. but im a bit curious on the outcomes and/or reason why it wont work... ;]
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djneutron
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Well Sure, go to your local feed store and buy a bunch of grains, and start chomping away for a week or so....In all seriousness though, i'm not sure that human dung would really work because of our different acid substances than animals in our stomachs...Im not sure if they r stronger or what, our acids i would think would possibly break down the nutrients more than animals does, thus depleting the nutrients the mushies need to strive on... But if u decide to give it a try, go ahead...but he's defenitly right...Cow/Horse dung is REALLY cheap, and usually if u just find a farmer within an hour and half drive, they will almost always let you have as much as you want for free...I'm talking trash bag fulls!!!
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cheifdog24
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Yes you can do it. Do it right now, start shiting on your cakes.
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bowling-name
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People post this question once in a while and are usually torn apart for asking (in part because their question is not serious). The thing is, it probably is possible to use human shit as a substrate, provided it is properly composted.
The pH of finished human compost is usually around 7.4 (good for mushrooms), and has no additional bad microbes compared to horse or cow compost (because the thermophilic composting and pasteurization kills these microbes). I believe it has an adequate nitrogen content and nitrogen to carbon ratio (as well as other nutrients), although I'm not sure of the actual numbers once it is compoted (although fecal matter has a nitrogen content of 5-7%, a little high). If you are serious about using human waste as a growing substrate, check out the Humanure Handbook, now online for free: http://www.weblife.org/humanure/default.html
It is probably more cost effective to use horse, cow, or elephant dung, but I don't see any reason why your own shit couldn't be substituted if the proper carbon-nitrogen ratios were obtained. I believe people are quick to dismiss this on emotional (or economic) rather than scientific grounds.
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Northernsoul
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Whats the fucken point of using your own shit anyways, one cow dump is like 20 human dumps combined, plus its cheaper and more practical
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Sterile
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I would love to prove to everyone how usefull our shit may be... Just imagine the face of the people that you will tell your little secret to... while they will be tripin on your shit....lol
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LSAuser
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haha is that some sort of joke? humans are carnivores so itll not work. Buy some cow manue!
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thescientist
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Re: Human Shit [Re: LSAuser]
#1011219 - 10/31/02 07:28 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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humans are omnivores
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MycoThaikoh
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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: tsimehc]
#1011259 - 10/31/02 07:45 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Skikid16
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Re: Human Shit [Re: tsimehc]
#1011290 - 10/31/02 07:58 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can get 100 pounds of horse shit for free, and I'm sure if you tried you could too.
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tsimehc
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Re: Human Shit [Re: Skikid16]
#1011370 - 10/31/02 08:26 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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probly could... there are horse stables near where i used to live.. like 20 mins from where i am... probly if i go to them as sed please... they would look at me funny and give me some shit...
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tsimehc
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my bad.. i mean cow manure.. thats the closest thing i can get from the cow.... talking about shit of course..
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Loop_Theorist
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I would like to point out (being a farmer for god sake) that the digestive sytem humans differs greatly from that of sheep/cows/horese/any other barn yard animal.
You wanna save your shit in a bag.... go for it. I bet it doesn;t work.
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LSAuser
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"humans are omnivores"
humans werent made to digest fruit and plant matter. The fiber passes out in your waste. Sure youll get the water and a little of the vitamins. Meat is what were made of and live for!
"I can get 100 pounds of horse shit for free, and I'm sure if you tried you could too"
yea buy a horse
"they would look at me funny and give me some shit... "
or bring out their riffle..........."hello farmer, can I have some of your horse/cow poo?" right LOL!!!!!!!!!!! maybe if you tell them its for "research" or something
" You wanna save your shit in a bag.... go for it. I bet it doesn;t work."
I dont think even sheep shit would workl, just horse and cow and maybe elephant.
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Skikid16
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Re: Human Shit [Re: LSAuser]
#1011473 - 10/31/02 09:09 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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Since you are in a fiesty mood, I'll tango:
I don't own a horse, tomorrow I could call my horse shit hookup and get as much as I want. Boo Yah.
I don't think a farmer will come out with a shotgun if you walk up and ring their door bell.
Sheep poo does work. Why wouldn't it? I've read people's accounts of using it. Worm shit also works. So does buffalo shit, and elephant shit.
Dude, these are the kind of posts that bring you flames, when you come on here yapping your mouth, talking like you KNOW shit for a FACT, when you don't. Come on man, I really hate to see you get butchered, but when you post shit like this, its like an invitation.
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Edited by Skikid16 (10/31/02 09:11 PM)
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LSAuser
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Re: Human Shit [Re: Skikid16]
#1011522 - 10/31/02 09:22 PM (21 years, 4 months ago) |
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so your friend(s) are farmers? cool. as for "as much as you wanted" who needs so much unless your growing a major outdoor tek?
sheeps have slightly different digestive systems and also they eat leaves, at least the goat I saw did! as for worms, they eat dirt. elephants eat hay and p-nuts. horses and cows eat mostly grass, and you want grass in your shit. lets see, does the shit of *any* herbivore work? I say just horse, cow and elephant if ur lucky. chickens are herbivores and so are pigs
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