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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: Are you scared of death? [Re: aDoS]
#9897802 - 03/02/09 04:30 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Who are you posting to dude?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Chronick
Connoisseur Of Hallucination
Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 163
Loc: Washington, USA
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Re: Are you scared of death? [Re: Syle]
#9897825 - 03/02/09 04:33 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Chronick said: I am not trying to make myself sound better than anyone else, but I have been very close to death on more than one occasion, once while heavily tripping. I used to fear death, but I realized death is not the end like I once thought, it is just a stage in the circle of life. Death has called my name and offered my spirit a passage into another dimension, I refused the offer because I still wanted to live and I endured freezing temperatures for many hours without sleep. I know death is waiting for me around the corner, but I am okay with that and I will just go with the flow until then, enjoying my time on this beautiful Earth. I will avoid death as long as I can, when I am ready I will heed the calling.
And here is something to think about for all of you who think when you die, your spirit just "disappears"...
"The law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant. A consequence of this law is that energy cannot be created or destroyed. The only thing that can happen with energy in an isolated system is that it can change form"
When a person dies, energy leaves their body, where does it go? It changes form and continues the journey.
while that sounds nice and all, prove to me that the spirit actually has physical energy. when you can do that, point me to your bible.
What I am suggesting is that the spirit is energy (why I believe all living things have spirits, some more intricate than others), I also have beliefs on DMT being the spirit molecule and the pineal gland being the "seat" of the spirit, but that's another thing (I recommend reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman if you are interested). And no human can prove any religion, so don't even ask for proof. Science is the only thing we can "prove" so I believe science is the closest thing you will get to "proven" religion.
Here is some science for you that points towards what I said.
Your "thoughts" are merely electrical signals traveling through your body and being put together by your brain (that's its job).
"You are neither your body nor your brain; you are the electrical current running through your brain. Our brains allow us to store information, yet people live with damage brains. If our spark was to leave us, we would die. But that spark or current of electricity can never die, Einstein proved that energy can never die or disappear, but it can change forms!"
People consider memories as segments of their lives. "Here's some more info on how memory works. Consider the work of Wilder Penfield back in 1951, in which tests were done on the brain during brain surgery. An electrical probe was stuck into the brain at different locations and was stimulated using current from a square wave generator, usually at 60 cycles per second, 0.5 to 5.0 volts This was done while the patient was wide awake (the brain doesn't feel pain). From Penfield's book, The Mystery of the Mind p.21-"They were electrical activations of the sequential record of consciousness, a record that had been laid down during the patient's earlier experience. The patient "re-lived" all that he had been aware of in that earlier period of time as in a moving-picture "flashback"...For example, when a mother told me she was suddenly aware, as my electrode touched the cortex, of being in her kitchen listening to the voice of her little boy who was playing outside in the yard. She was aware of the neighborhood noises, such as passing cars, that might mean danger to him.. could hear instruments playing a melody. I restimulated the same point 30 times trying to mislead her..Each time I re-stimulated, she heard the melody again. It began at the same place and went on from chorus to verse...In other cases, different "flashbacks" might be produced from successive stimulations of the same point." That would mean those segments of who we "are" are merely electrical signals stored in our body's brain.
When we die something like .53 milliamps of electrical energy leaves our body and goes back to the source where it can change forms. Once our bodies have died and start to decompose, there is no use for all that stored information in our brains anymore, it must leave the body, and it does.
There is no easy path to the Truth. As science advances, our idea of the Truth also advances, religions generally stay the same over the years even with all the new information available to us. Religions seem like a time loops that pull the tired "seekers" into them and keep them until their energy can no longer last in their form and must start new again. Religions may be close to the Truth (or not even close) but they stay the same. The Truth however is always changing, so is science. Think about it.
As for a bible, you can start with this.
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/ETEmain.html
And here is a picture that helps illustrate that no matter how small or large, we are all essentially the same thing.
-------------------- The truth is always hidden in plain sight.
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aDoS
freedom lover
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Posts: 7,590
Loc: land of the free
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Re: Are you scared of death? [Re: Icelander]
#9897920 - 03/02/09 04:49 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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I thought it was pretty clear who I was replying to, but since you ask, I'll post this big ass quote.
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Kukaracha said: Why are you here?
because it is a sin to commit suicide
That's why I don't believe in god. I can do whatever the fuck I want.
-------------------- "If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH
Edited by aDoS (03/02/09 06:16 PM)
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PDU
travel kid vs.amerika
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Re: Are you scared of death? [Re: Icelander]
#9899886 - 03/02/09 09:15 PM (15 years, 20 days ago) |
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Icelander said: There is nothing to fear if you live your life with integrity and intention.
And what, pray tell, do you have to lose if you don't?
This is a good point. I was originally going to withdrawl "my conditions" because of fear of a rebuttal such as this.
It is my irrational belief that if i do my best all my life, and practice compassion and understanding in the truest sense of the words, my energy essence will progress in some way.
I have no justification other than psychedelic mindstates, a hunch and writings by ancient spiritual cultures...
-------------------- GO OUTSIDE.
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