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who here owns a cat in an appartement ?
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i wonder, we have a 110 m² = 1184.030 ft² appartment with a balcony but no garden access.

wed love a kittie in our flat but we worry that it would not be able to go out into
a garden and live some of its "natural life" and somehow we would feel sorry for it because of that.

so, who of you guys actually is in a situation alike, having a kittie in a flat without garden access ?

share your opinions please :smile:


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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A good friend of mine has a cat in a 2-bedroom apartment, of modest size.  It's a kitten, and is getting older/bigger - and seems to be doing just fine.  It runs around and plays, is spontaneous and somewhat demented... but seems to be doing allright.

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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i have 2 cats in my apartment. They seem pretty happy they just chase eachother around all day and relax in the pane of the window when just the screen is down.  I highly recommend gettin a cat they really brighten up your apartment:grin:


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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My girlfriend has THREE cats in a small one-bedroom apartment.  If the cats are not used to being outdoors,
there shouldn't be any problem with keeping them inside.  Aside from giving them good attention, playing
with them and having a litterbox / scratching posts, the hardest part will be dealing with all the hair!






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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: geokills]
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geokills said:
the hardest part will be dealing with all the hair! 



thank you for pointing this out, this is a major point when cats do not spend most of their time outdoor,
all the hair will stay indoors !

man man man, so much to consider, it just does not seem right to me if they cant get out !


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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Yeah but a lot of people raise cats and like never let them outside once.. purely indoor cats.
I know if I was a cat, I'd be pissed. But the cats don't seem to mind that much... or do they????


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: Shroomism]
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my cat was with me and my ex in our apartment couple years ago.  he fell out the window - 2 stories.  he pushed the screen out

was fine...silly cats


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Yeah but a lot of people raise cats and like never let them outside once.. purely indoor cats.
I know if I was a cat, I'd be pissed. But the cats don't seem to mind that much... or do they????



Oh, cats WILL let you know if they are unhappy.


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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both of my cats are indoor cats and we live in a flat roughly the same size as yours. actually, when i got the two of them, it said specifically on the purchase contract that they would not be allowed to go outdoors. why?

well firstly, we live in the city. it's unsafe for a cat to be in the city anyways, there's many hazards which could eventually lead to their demise, i.e. being hit by a car.

second, domestic cats don't HAVE to be outdoors. i've unbiasedly listened to both sides of the debate, some say that cats should be able to exercise their predatory instincts, frolic in the grass and sun but keep in mind that domesticated cats aren't apart of the natural mini ecosystem (at least in the countryside in this country they're not). keep in mind that cats hunt and in turn kill animals such as squirrels, birds, etc. cats can develop diseases from killing these animals such as feline HIV, FeLV, etc, get parasites such as fleas, ringworm and they can in turn be killed by other bigger predatory animals.

a cat can be happy indoors if it's been subjected to living indoors since being a kitten. in my opinion, i would say get 2 cats so that they'd keep each other company and won't long for your attention and get lonely after some time. also, get a cat climbing tree with a scratching post. they'll be able to climb,play, catnap and do what they seem to like a lot, sharpening their claws. there are some good cat climbing trees from europet for example for just 100e.

make sure the cat(s) has plenty of toys so they can practice their instincts by hunting for them :grin: toy mice are cheap...a bag of them are about 2e and last forever.

also, in regards to cat hair, if you don't want balls of fluff all over the place then don't consider getting a cat with long hair. i have 2 short hair cats and the amount of shedding is minimal. we also have a irobot roomba going around picking up the cat hair twice a week scheduled to go around when we're at work. :p

if you have anymore cat related questions such as how much it would cost for maintenance don't hesitate to msg on irc :smile:


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: boO]
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Scratching post is KEY!


my friend has now ruined her furniture because she didn't plan ahead.

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: boO]
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My cat escapes now and then, but he always comes back.


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: memes]
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meams said:
Scratching post is KEY!


my friend has now ruined her furniture because she didn't plan ahead.



damn, they really need that dont they


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: Captain Caveman]
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Captain Caveman said:
Shroomism said:
Yeah but a lot of people raise cats and like never let them outside once.. purely indoor cats.
I know if I was a cat, I'd be pissed. But the cats don't seem to mind that much... or do they????



Oh, cats WILL let you know if they are unhappy.



That's correct

My cat is purely an indoor cat, shes fine but I also like in a 3 floored house so she has lots of space. Cats don't really need much space, you're apartment will be fine for the cat. Keep it as an indoor cat to keep it from catching any fleas or anything.

You should really get a cat dude, they kick ass!

They sell lint rollers that work REALLY well for cat fur :



I use these for my cats fur.


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: hpi]
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I have a ferret who is currently digging through empty plastic shopping bags and needs to be harassed a little.


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: Nerotik]
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I have 3 cats, and they're all indoors, but I DO feel bad that I can't let them have a bit of "natural" living. In fact, it causes me quite a bit of grief.  If you do indeed decide to get a cat, I very strongly recommend getting two that will get along well (maybe you can find siblings or a pair at the shelter, which is an awesome idea, because often pairs are separated at shelters, and this is quite traumatic for them.)  Also, if you only have 1 cat and don't spend a decent amount of time loving and playing with it, it will most certainly become depressed.
Also, don't forget to consider what you will do if you need to be away from the apartment for days at a time.  Who can look after your pets?
Just things to consider.
Also, for anyone reading....
The best kitty litter EVER : The Worlds best Cat Litter
Thats actually the name. Its made from corn, and it really is the best.
Good luck with your decision.


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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Cats adjust very well to the hedonistic nature of apartment dwelling.

They really won't mind.


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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: Madtowntripper]
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Madtowntripper said:
Cats adjust very well to the hedonistic nature of apartment dwelling.

They really won't mind.



Truth.

We have two very happy, friendly, indoor cats in a small apartment.

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
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Yeah you gotta play with cats and show them love or they won't be happy and they can become pretty viscious with you. Just hold it and pet it and it will keep it happy. Make it attack strings and toys so it still keeps that natural predatory attitude.


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Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!


There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





4-Methyl-Aminorex

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: ohmatic]
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Cat proof your important wires before you get one, if you care .

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Re: who here owns a cat in an appartement ? [Re: hpi]
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My cat loves to hunt a green bean tied to the end of a string.

She will attack such a device for hours.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

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