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 abert
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 P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? 
#971462 - 10/18/02 02:45 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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What methods it is possible to provoke fruit body at P. mexicana strain A (sclerotia forming) by.
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#971502 - 10/18/02 03:54 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Una's guide to Mexicana A strain
If you look at the methods link on his site, you'll be able to get instructions on how to provoke sclerotia formation.
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abert
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: boO]
#971584 - 10/18/02 04:53 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to FRUIT BODY (not Sclerotia) for reception spore print. Sclerotia grow in a plenty. 
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#971637 - 10/18/02 05:23 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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from what i understood from una's posts, a prolonged cold shock (7-15 days in the fridge at least) is in order to promote vigorous fruiting....
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Anno
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: CLuB99]
#971639 - 10/18/02 05:23 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#971677 - 10/18/02 05:56 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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ahh sorry my bad...here i'll give an excuse: i really want to go home and i'm stuck at my stupid job looking at the computer screen ina zombie like way. 
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: boO]
#1061720 - 11/18/02 03:31 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tell me please, when it is better to spend a prolonged cold shock?
I have placed containers in a refrigerator after 1 week, after shelter casing soil. After 2 weeks I have taken out containers from a refrigerator. At once in 2 days have begun to be formed pin of fruit body, but the mushrooms and have not grown. And after 1 week, have appeared and now continue to grow 6 fruit body. It already second wave of a crop? 
May be, the containers should be placed in a refrigerator at once after a covering casing soil, instead of to wait week?
6 fruit body is a bad crop for strain A, or it is normal?
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#1061740 - 11/18/02 03:50 AM (22 years, 7 months ago) |
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I took my mex-a casing out of the fridge after 2 weeks and put it in the fruiting chamber 3 days ago. No sign of pins yet, but the casing is erupting with sclerotia. I wonder if this is a sign that it isn't going to fruit...?
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shymanta
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Allow me to raise the dead. 
I just read Mexicana fruit from May to October. Check out emvironmental parameters in Mexico between these months.
Hmm... Was that worth the Necromancy? Oh, well fuck it.
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: shymanta]
#5236895 - 01/28/06 11:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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^^LOL
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#5238539 - 01/29/06 01:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just curious about your desire for a print...to share with others? for posterity? I haven't tried yet (but will with this batch) tossing a stone into media (rice or rye seeds) to effectively clone what you already have and to continue stone production.
suzie
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shymanta
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: suzie_girl]
#5850155 - 07/12/06 08:52 AM (19 years, 10 days ago) |
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Quote:
suzie_girl said:
tossing a stone into media... to effectively clone what you already have and to continue stone production.
Yes, this will work. Take a stone and soak it in water with a little H2O2 then put it into the substrate or put it on an agar plate. It will grow.
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: shymanta]
#5855847 - 07/13/06 08:00 PM (19 years, 9 days ago) |
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If anyone manages to get some fruits from their Mexicana I'd be really interested in a print (see sig).
Waxingren is sending me a print of Atlantis #7 (sclerotia forming). He was unable to get them to fruit inside (said he tried for months) so put them outside in some plant pots with some compost and bingho..... fruits. Check it out!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5690195#Post5690195
Perhaps it's possible these strains are similar to Liberty Caps in their need for compost / bacteria to be present for fruiting? I saw someone trying to fruit Liberty Caps indoors recently and they found they needed to have a sprinkling of unsterilised soil present to get it fruiting.
I love truffle veriants.
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#5856482 - 07/13/06 11:24 PM (19 years, 9 days ago) |
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well i know they can fruit without a cold shock after time. i left my lab and everything in it while i set my new place up because of a random robber(they must have been like wtf?). 4 months later i go back to empty everything out and i remember my cultures were on the top floor. i assumed they would be ruined by then. there was no ac on and it was about 102 degrees up there(top floor was a attic converted to living quarters). well i go and pull out my culture for the most part they were dead(shriveled up agar). but i noticed when throwing them out some of my mexicana's had little mushrooms in the dish(mind you they were all fuzzy and coated with something but you could still see the dark blue on the stem also). i was amazed as i had little to no luck fruiting the a-strain because my casing kept drying out(yeah i know it was my fault).
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 Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: durban_poison]
#5859284 - 07/14/06 07:25 PM (19 years, 8 days ago) |
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I have found that mexicana and tampanensis will both fruit with a short coldshock as well. The mycelium seems to want to gather enough energy before fruiting. I'm thinking they want to have at least some critical level of potential energy before happily responding to fruiting triggers. So, just let them build energy from the substrate for a month after full colonisation! Then case, let the mycelium run through the casing layer. After 20% or so poking through, spray it, stick it in a clean trash bag. Suck all of the air out of the bag! Tie it, stick it in the fridge for a day or a week or a month, take it out of the bag and blast it with initiation conditions!
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: Olgualion]
#5860270 - 07/14/06 11:27 PM (19 years, 8 days ago) |
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So you are looking to get this?
3 months in the jars, break it up and lay it out in a pan. Put a good casing layer on it, Let it colonize the casing layer. Then put it in the fruiting chamber @ 85% to 90% RH. It takes about 3 weeks for pins to form and then another two weeks to finish the first flush.
I Did NO Cold Shocking! And I am not giving away or trading prints. Because I only have a couple left and am going to have to grow another group 
Printing them was harder than growing them. The will dry out before they drop the spores, I had to cover them with a 1/2 pint jar (4 caps per jar)
Nice prints though
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: Cyber]
#5860349 - 07/14/06 11:55 PM (19 years, 8 days ago) |
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Damn! Nice!
Any other secrets to share?
-FF
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: fastfred]
#5860806 - 07/15/06 05:39 AM (19 years, 7 days ago) |
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How potent are these Mushrooms? Are they more spiritual than Mexican Cubensis?
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Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#14351266 - 04/25/11 07:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here is a link to updated information concerning fruit body production in sclerotia producing psilocybe varieties (I'm not too sure, perhaps this works with other species.) The information in the link is by Stonesun, if you don't know who this is he's a fellow member here.
We can all thank him for sharing results of his undoubtedly countless tries that we can lean this the easy way. If you use this guide or at least find it entertaining, make sure you give him a favorable rating.
A Comprehensive Sclerotia Cultivation Guide - From Spore Print to Spore Print (VER 1.0).pdf
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 Re: P. mexicana strain A - fruit body - How? [Re: abert]
#28894652 - 07/31/24 08:05 AM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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It's pretty easy, if you're stuff is FULY colonized. put thye colonized sub into a fridge, as mentioned... burt seriously, it ain't gonna take two weeks, or even one... 24 hours at 3 degrees C is enough to force the stuff to pin out hard.
I have done this with large cakes and jars and plastic puckets that had sclerotia in them already, and they fruited, without any casing. Casing is wht you really need for "full" fruitbodies, though.
like 25 years ago I had put up a method for sclerotia, but I can't find it.. I would take my "picked through" grain and shove it all in a plastic box, let it sit a week, then chill it... if I wanted spores.
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