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immigrants and over population
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so here in san diego county they set up virtual cities in the canyons which are supposed to be nature preserves for plants and animals, alot of times they eat the protected animals and run wild in the nature preserves

a spot they have been using for ages is los penasquitos canyon

http://www.imdiversity.com/Villages/Hispanic/immigration/amoruso_invisible_mexicans0108.asp

the fucked up thing is that even the laborers who have been here for decades say there are too many of themselves

the problem is they bring their mentality of a third world to the states and pollute the land and even auction off their young teen daughters for money

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/01/13/daughter.for.sale/index.html

(CNN) -- A California man sold his 14-year-old daughter to an 18-year-old man for cash, beer and meat -- then called police when the prospective bridegroom didn't live up to his end of the deal, authorities said Tuesday.
Marcelino de Jesus Martinez faces felony charges, according to police in Greenfield, California.

Marcelino de Jesus Martinez faces felony charges, according to police in Greenfield, California.

Marcelino de Jesus Martinez, 36, of Greenfield, California, was arrested Monday and booked into the Monterey County Jail, Greenfield police said in a statement. He faces felony charges of receiving money for causing a person to cohabitate, police said.

Martinez had arranged through a third party to have his daughter marry the older teenager, identified by authorities as Margarito de Jesus Galindo, of Gonzales, California. In exchange, Galindo was to pay Martinez $16,000 and provide him with 160 cases of beer, 100 cases of soda, 50 cases of Gatorade, two cases of wine, and six cases of meat, Greenfield Police Chief Joe Grebmeier told CNN.

All those involved in the case are from the western Mexican state of Oaxaca, the police chief said. In the Oaxacan community, such an agreement is "normal and honorable," he said. "In California, it's against the law." Video Watch for a list of the groceries dad reportedly wanted »

In Oaxacan culture, the food and beverages are provided by a prospective bridegroom for the wedding, Grebmeier said.

Authorities believe the young girl went with Galindo willingly, and no coercion was involved, he said. However, the girl is four years younger than California's age of consent, although the law does allow 16-year-olds to marry with parental consent.

"The 14-year-old juvenile moved in with Galindo and when payments were not received, the father, Martinez, called Greenfield PD to bring back the daughter," according to a written police statement.
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The girl was reported as a runaway juvenile on December 18, Grebmeier said, and police took a missing-persons report and put out a flier.

But "as we investigated, it started to develop into something that may not have been a runaway," he said, and police began to believe Martinez wanted them to bring back his daughter, since he had received no payment.

On January 2, Galindo and the girl returned from a trip to Soledad, a town a few miles north of Greenfield, and were interviewed. Police learned the couple had never married, but had engaged in sexual relations, Grebmeier said.

Galindo and Martinez were neighbors at an apartment complex and were apparently from the same area in Mexico, the police chief said. A third party was brokering the marriage deal, he said, and is cooperating with authorities. But the young couple apparently left for Soledad before the negotiations were complete.

Martinez was arrested Sunday after undergoing additional questioning by police, Grebmeier said. He remained jailed Tuesday.

Galindo was cited for statutory rape and released, Grebmeier said. The girl was returned to her family, he said, as authorities believe she is in no danger. However, police reported the case to child protection officials.

The Greenfield area has had a large influx of Oaxacans. A presentation on understanding Oaxacan culture is posted on the Greenfield police Web site.

"Arranged marriages are common in several cultures, and this is not an issue among consenting adults over the age of 18," police said in the statement. "But California has several laws regarding minors, the age of consent and human trafficking."

Police are trying to be culturally sensitive, Grebmeier told CNN, but "when I'm in Mexico, I have to respect Mexican laws. When you're in the United States, you have to respect United States laws. That's the bottom line."
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He said he wanted to send a message to immigrant communities that such behavior is unacceptable. He said his department has long heard rumors of children as young as 12 being sold or offered for sale. The Greenfield police statement said arranged marriages between young girls and older men "have become a local problem."

Greenfield is about 140 miles southeast of San Francisco. 

anyway go check out the canyons in SD county for a reality check...

things are real fucked up down here...


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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It's not a sale, it's a dowry, what a racist fuckin column


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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are you a trustafarian?


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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I don' think that the government should be involved in social issues that are such a grey area that they've been acceptable in just about every culture ever since mankind evolved.


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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so barbaric africans can cut off their daughters clits here in the states and that is cool with you?


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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I'm sorry but a person cannot be illegal.  This concept is ludicrous.  Just because men and women with badges and suits on made up some tests and give legal immigrants a little badge of honor does not mean that they have more a right to enter the country than anyone else.  This concept only applies to private property.. and theres plenty of unused property in the US if you haven't noticed.  Something like 5-10% of all available land in the US currently has people living on it.

The real problem here is government and people that think they own priveledge to this body of land dubbed north america.


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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I live in Rancho Penasquitos, I'm not sure if the canyon you speak of is in the same place. I see them standing by the Stater Bros, some in Poway. I feel bad for them, some of them I can tell are low lives. But you say they bring their mentality as if it influences any Americans, all the people int hat article seem to be Mexican.

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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: anyone420]
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you know i,ve seen quite a few of your post,s and i like your subversive outlook but i recognize you are a very young man who has alot to learn...


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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Indeed, I completely agree.  However, that doesn't really provide evidence contrary to my statement.  Care to post something of substance?


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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5150 said:
so barbaric africans can cut off their daughters clits here in the states and that is cool with you?



Please kindly come up with an example that has "been acceptable in just about every culture ever since mankind evolved."

Or prove me wrong on that assertion

Or kindly fuck off


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
It's not a sale, it's a dowry, what a racist fuckin column



I am honestly surprised that you do not know what a dowry is.

ferris, I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
It's not a sale, it's a dowry, what a racist fuckin column



first thing that crossed my mind was dowry but I guess it you're a
prosecutor or a cop you can spin it any way your closed mind
chooses to... now, since they arent citizens and havent broken any
real laws in the US we should execute them and deport their bodies

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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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you have jokes, trusty.....
look at a brick wall, that is real, what you say is not...


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: d33p]
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d33p said:
Ferris said:
It's not a sale, it's a dowry, what a racist fuckin column



I am honestly surprised that you do not know what a dowry is.

ferris, I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed



More technically, it's a bride price, but I thought more people would understand the word dowry.


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: 5150]
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Quote:


anyway go check out the canyons in SD county for a reality check...

things are real fucked up down here...



Dude there was like a Fox report like 3 years ago right in my neighborhood. There are canyons along where I live, the media took one incident crime that an illegal did and blew it up as if every single one was that way. I'm in no way justifying some of the illegals fucked up actions, as I would never a legal persons fucked up actions; but you are perpetuating what the news tells you.

I live in San Diego, Rancho Penasquitos. I walk along the canyons, people drive here to ride their bikes along the trail of the canyons. I go back and forth from Chula Vista, National City, Mira Mesa, Poway, RB...shit I even go to TJ.

Where do you live that it is so fucked up man? I'd really like to know so I can be aware.

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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Drunken_Jester]
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San Diego is like all white people


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: anyone420]
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anyone420 said:
I'm sorry but a person cannot be illegal.  This concept is ludicrous.  Just because men and women with badges and suits on made up some tests and give legal immigrants a little badge of honor does not mean that they have more a right to enter the country than anyone else.  This concept only applies to private property.. and theres plenty of unused property in the US if you haven't noticed.  Something like 5-10% of all available land in the US currently has people living on it.

The real problem here is government and people that think they own priveledge to this body of land dubbed north america.



QFT

people forget all of this far too often.


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Drunken_Jester]
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there has been so many abductions, do a little research , dont let any kids roam around without supervision...

http://www.wlos.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/wlos_vid_1140.shtml

Attempted Abduction

An apparent illegal immigrant is behind bars, accused of trying to kidnap a Macon County girl.

Nine year old Alex Fullbright was in her yard early Monday morning when she says 36 year old Olivar Roblero grabbed her. "He said I was his love and he was going to get me one way or another," Alex Fullbright says. The child's mother says it's not the first time he's made threatening comments. Angela Fullbright says Roblero, who lived nearby, had previously asked her how much he could "buy" the girl for.

Roblero is charged with attempted kidnapping and misdemeanor assault. He told deputies he is from Mexico and in the country illegally. Roblero is being held in Macon County. Macon County Attempted Kidnapping (08/06/08)


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Re: immigrants and over population [Re: Ferris]
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Ferris said:
San Diego is like all white people



Rancho Bernardo, Vista, Oceanside and other parts of San Diego hills/coasts are primarily white.

But man San Diego IS a border city, no shit there are illegals, but man it is pretty diverse; a lot of Asians in Mira Mesa, Philippinos, there is a Naval station here which brings more diversity, also Camp Pendelton. San Diego is not all white people at ALL. If anything that is why old white people in Rancho Bernardo and Poway are throwing fits because of all the diversity.

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