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2012 DMT and Death
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Let me know what you guys think.  The site is constantly changing.

www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com


New updates June 1.

Edited by Around In Circles (06/02/09 09:58 AM)

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Around In Circles]
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Very interesting.

I do wonder if humanity is really going in this direction though, as a whole. I have never had the honour of trying DMT before, not really sure if I would be ready yet, but the vast majority of people have not done anything other that alcohol and I wonder if people will ever make the connection. Even if they are faced with their demise.


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"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." - Piter De Vries, Dune

Pornography like office supplies should never be paid for.

People around here are not paranoid enough. Everyone is a narc and our thoughts are being scanned as we speak. Any minute now a SWAT team is going to crash your door down and take you away for thought crimes.

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Around In Circles]
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Nice...so these are all your words? Your site?

On the topic of DNA, you say the scientists understand 90-97% of what's going on with it? I've been of the impression that the majority of DNA strands had been classified as "junk dna", which a lot is being speculated of late that there are actually 12 full strands of DNA, 10 of them de-activated long ago, so that we live primarily in survival mode. But that w/ discipline and focus, one can begin to re-activate more DNA.

And have you heard of the new children being born in the past 10 yrs or so?...able to be born w/ AIDS, and checked up on a few years later to not have a trace of AIDS/HIV whatsoever! These children seem utterly invincible to bacteria, never get sick, and it is said that they have 3 DNA codons activated which had never been found in humans prior...

That's a phenomenon that seems to be found rather exclusively in the West, whereas in the East(mind-over-matter being the predominant paradigm), they are finding the new wave of children to be Super-psychic...reading cards being flipped in completely different rooms, etc....

Certainly looks like we got ourselves a mass evolution taking place...

I think McKenna was definitely on to something when suggesting that we are on our way to becoming interstellar beings.

And yep DMT is certainly an alchemical key in allowing all the veils to suddenly come off. "Oh wow, everything is based in geometry. I can see the blue-print. I can see the matrix." Oh, the power in AWE.


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"We are the facilitators of our own co-creative evolution"- T. McKenna

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Around In Circles]
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I heard that 2012 will bring about the next leap in human evolution. And we'll get tails. Not big ones, but big enough. :naughty:

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cameron]
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I hear that the Maya never said what was going to happen so I dont understand what all the hubub is


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cameron]
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Cameron said:
I heard that 2012 will bring about the next leap in human evolution. And we'll get tails. Not big ones, but big enough. :naughty:


sweet, tails, i hope they're quite dexterous and strong enough to hang from.


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All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. - Ambrose Bierce

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: learningtofly]
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You'll never get a tail with that attitude. :nonono:

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: flangenips]
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:rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave:
:rave::rave: :rockon: Yeah !! Dexterity !! :rockon: :rave::rave:

:rave::rave::rave::rave: 2012 !! :rave::rave::rave::rave:
:rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave::rave:

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cameron]
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If there is any substantive change on 2012 it will not have been spontaneous but will have begun at least a century back. So look to the present for roots of the future. Moreover, it is the especially powerful opening up of the West by Buddhist, Hindu, and other yogis and their followers, as well as all the neotheosophists and yippies and new agers and the rest whpo spun a change in the present mind, from that of once stodgy conservatism world wide.

In other words it was especially the provanence of large groups of meditators like those of the Maharishi Effect, and similar such groups. Large meditation groups are symmetry breakers.


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
I hear that the Maya never said what was going to happen so I dont understand what all the hubub is


The Mayan calendar points towards a singularity about the time of winter solstice 2012. The point at which one world ends and a new begins. Death and Rebirth. Notice the exponentially increasing changes around you. It's as if reality as we know it is almost at the point of climax, ready to burst, and give way to new foundations. In fact new paradigms are already taking place. Notice the magickal qualities inherent in quantum physics today.

The Mayans couldn't feasibly predict the direction in which life would evolve, for to a large degree, this is up to us. What was written in the stars as they saw it, is that we are reaching a major apex, at which point time and life AS WE KNOW IT shall cease. The rules are being re-written. And we are influencing the story, consciously or not, through our desires, intentions, focus and actions. This is no time to sit on the fence, ladies and gentlemen.


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cosmosis]
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I have to come to believe that the Singularity will manifest itself as a catastrophe metaphorically due to personal experience.

On one mushroom trip and several DMT trips I have "seen" the scenario.

Every time its the same deal.

I am at a concert venue, when I look up to see a growing black mass in the sky, the vast majority of people around me begin to panic; crying, running to the exits, collapsing.  However, there are few others around me who "understand and accept" what is going on and we can hear eachothers thoughts as we discern that we are all about to die. "Is this going to hurt?"  After that what I see is completely and utterly inexplicable.  It is what I have come to understand to be God. 

Then I'm back.


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cosmosis]
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Cosmosis said:
learningtofly said:
I hear that the Maya never said what was going to happen so I dont understand what all the hubub is


The Mayan calendar points towards a singularity about the time of winter solstice 2012. The point at which one world ends and a new begins. Death and Rebirth. Notice the exponentially increasing changes around you. It's as if reality as we know it is almost at the point of climax, ready to burst, and give way to new foundations. In fact new paradigms are already taking place. Notice the magickal qualities inherent in quantum physics today.

The Mayans couldn't feasibly predict the direction in which life would evolve, for to a large degree, this is up to us. What was written in the stars as they saw it, is that we are reaching a major apex, at which point time and life AS WE KNOW IT shall cease. The rules are being re-written. And we are influencing the story, consciously or not, through our desires, intentions, focus and actions. This is no time to sit on the fence, ladies and gentlemen.


No.. their calendar just ends on that date. All that was left was an unfinished inscription. Therefore anything and everything that anyone says about it is pure speculation. For all we know the could have just gotten tired and stopped.


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: learningtofly]
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learningtofly said:
No.. their calendar just ends on that date. All that was left was an unfinished inscription. Therefore anything and everything that anyone says about it is pure speculation. For all we know the could have just gotten tired and stopped.


Very true, yet all ancient texts do point to a time of great significance.

The Hopi and the Mayan talk of entering the next world, or the new world. David Wilcock has mapped out various energy changes occurring both on earth and throughout our solar system. I believe 12/21/12 will be one of many convergences of human consciousness. Its significance will lay in the frontier we cross at that point.

We are surely in for an interesting next few years. :grin:

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: learningtofly]
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"An unfinished inscription"? Because it stops, it is considered unfinished? And if this is not the only aspect that has caused you to conclude it must be unfinished, then please fill me in. I must be missing something, as this kind of reasoning would suggest that the very existence of an ending to a book may deem the story unfinished.

Out of compulsion, for I consider the very idea that the ancients so obsessed w/ stars, mathematics and perfection would just get lazy and never bother to finish their work, to be utterly foul...I will expound on the cosmological reasoning behind the end of the mayan calendar.

Before I go on, I'd like to note that one finds it impossible to use the I-Ching to forecast the future beyond the year 2012.

There is a perfect science to why the mayan calendar stops where it does.  There is something called a precession, which involves the earth wobbling on her axis a full 360deg every 26,000 years...in this wobbling, our Sun  comes into alignment w/ the center of the galaxy. This happens once every 26,000 years, and it is happening right now...

The Sun is regarded as the Father deity, or is the inspiration for the father deity in just about every religion, spiritual belief system that ever there was. And just about every great mother-goddess points toward the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy. The virgin mother indeed. That from which all springs forth. What happens when Father unites w/ Mother? Think how similar an orgasm is to the idea of the singularity. So yin and yang re-unite, become one, contract down to a point, and then what? Possibly new creation bursts forth?

Yes, a creation story. THE creation story. At its least mythological. Funny how all the creation stories from all cultures can generally be fit into this.

So then, we come to the conclusion that life, the universe and everything is cyclical. But 1 big cycle would be far too simplistic, wouldn't it? It is theorized that at the 13,000 year marker, when the earth is furthest away from the mother, a darkness begins to descend. Not unlike the decrease in daylight we begin to experience after Summer Solstice. If that 13,000 year mark is like Summer Solstice, then 26,000 must be....why, Winter Solstice! Meaning on a galactic scale, we are in the deepest depths of darkness, soon to crawl out of our caves again to be graced with the light.
Light on the Soul level=Information. Darkness=Ignorance. (For those who may be metaphorically dense.)

Then, w/ the McKenna brothers' Timewave Novelty theory, we can connect the dots even further by recognizing the repetitious pattern by which certain kinds of changes have taken place throughout history as we know it, interestingly speeding up as we hit the crunchpoint, which is 2012.

Cycles within cycles within cycles.

Well, I hope this tangent has provided a few people with a bigger glimpse of the Whole.


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Cosmosis]
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Cosmosis said:
Cycles within cycles within cycles.

Well, I hope this tangent has provided a few people with a bigger glimpse of the Whole.


Cosmosis, you are definitely well versed in Terence's ideas and their implications.

Have you smoked DMT?


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Around In Circles]
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:nonono:

I've been obsessed with this molecule for 13 years, and to date, there is still no way of detecting the production of DMT in vivo, only its presence (which is mostly in peripheral tissues rather than the brain). trying to connect it with birth/death and dreams is  anecdotal and severely lacking in evidence; it's mostly metaphysical theory

speculating the 2012 connection with endogenous DMT is like contemplating flying around on a magic carpet.

I actually vaped some yesterday, I love the stuff; and I've read mckenna's  writings as long as I've heard of dmt. the guy has some interesting theories, to say the least...but he was also a bit off his rocker


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: Around In Circles]
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I dont think the world will end in 2012 per se,- I think humanity (as we know it) will shift into a new awareness; religions will be saying bye bye and terrorism will all but vanish and we'll all just get along, or it could end in a singular world domination; for self soothing reasons, I like the former.

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: hoodbran]
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I believe 2012 will bring new paths from higher beings. who ever gets to us first will start our new path. on one side an endless war of a power hungry force, a force deadlier and more ruthless then man ever will be,that will bind man together to achieve  liberation and freedom. or a force of prosperity, who is willing to share and help our race through the nonsense its procured as a false working system.beings that will open our minds to the true fact that all races and lifeforms must band together to truly survive.
  ..or maybe all the systems man has created will come to an end destroying our selfs,a fate fit for true kings of our age.

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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: ZackWyldeFan]
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Maybe just some magnent trains even


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Re: 2012 DMT and Death [Re: hoodbran]
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hoodbran said:
I dont think the world will end in 2012 per se,- I think humanity (as we know it) will shift into a new awareness; religions will be saying bye bye and terrorism will all but vanish and we'll all just get along, or it could end in a singular world domination; for self soothing reasons, I like the former.


Don't you think that is overtly naive?

I mean you could say the same about my idea, but the whole New Age idea of 2012 being about an evolution to "higher consciousness" just seems extremely naive.

To think that evil will just disappear without its own paroxysm is just foolish in my opinion.


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