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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5547195 - 04/23/06 11:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My opinion is that we will not know until something does happen. Scientific data is being pieced together to predict the outcome of a VERY scientific event, and the final outcome of most of these predictions is, infact, very un-scientific.

Perhaps this just re-enforces the theory that science is only the child of something higher and this is all just proof that science and that higher power feed from eachother.

This may make little sense, it is obviously a hard thought to put into words.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5547315 - 04/23/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think people would predict the change and recalibrate electrical equipment in preparation for the magnetic shift. This would be much like the y2k bug, except for real.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5547494 - 04/23/06 01:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Perhaps this is what humanity needs.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #5548128 - 04/23/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

BlimeyGrimey said:
first of all i'm an atheist, so i dont believe Jesus is coming back.
second, i never said McKenna knew the "truth", i was judging based on Kidgard's guess of dec 23, 2012 , which is 2 days after McKenna's prediction. chnaces are a polar shift wouldnt take place within our lifetime, even if it had already started happening.

i think the mayan's calendar has nothing to do with reality, cuz if they could predict things so accurately why didnt they stop their own demise?



no one knows what happened to the classical maya. they abandoned their cities at the peak of their civilaztion, and the ones who were left behind went into the jungles to form other toltec civilizations. it was after this era of the classical maya that human sacrifice and all the other downfalls of the classical mayan's descendants took place. they just dissapeared. according to some they are in another dimension watching over us and making sure there is a smooth transmission into the next age, and leaving clues behind such as the pocol vatan (spelling?) and the 13 crystal skulls.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #5548559 - 04/23/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think the Mayans went into the second attention. They found some way to leave, and they left. There is so much Mayan "stuff" in the second attention....


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5550361 - 04/24/06 07:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

space man. Its huge.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: psyillyazul]
    #5551286 - 04/24/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Ok you people arent getting the severity of a pole shift. They have happened in history we know it because we can see the different ways iron at different layers going back in time lined up as the poles did.

It does not happen over night.

First it weakens and then goes away completely. This means no magnetic feild around the earth at all to block solar radiation. The Ozone layer starts to get destroyed by the radiation as well. so when it comes back its still going to take years to return to normal. Microbes will be destroyed the radiation, food chains will collaspe. This is not something we can "reprogram liek Y2k"


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: blaze2]
    #5555566 - 04/25/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Theres quite a bit of info about the shifting of the magnetic poles.
Quite a bit of discussion on this subject else where. Search Nasa's site
its full of great info, like where the poles are right now, and how there is actually a few poles at this point because they are inbetween shifting.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: Springs]
    #5557905 - 04/26/06 09:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

> Ok you people arent getting the severity of a pole shift.

Actually, you are the one inflating the severity of a pole shift... most likely.

> They have happened in history we know it because we can see the different ways iron at different layers going back in time lined up as the poles did.

Yep... and not once, out of the hundreds of pole shifts, is there any evidence of a mass extinction.

> It does not happen over night.

They think it takes anywhere from 100 years to 1000 years, or more to complete the shift.

> First it weakens and then goes away completely.

The most resent computer models disagree with you. Although it weakens, the models indicate that it never goes away completely. Instead, the field becomes very chaotic with the poles shifting in odd directions. This study was published just a few months ago.

> This means no magnetic feild around the earth at all to block solar radiation.

Again, this isn't for certain. Recent models show a weakening of the protection, not a complete loss. There is also a fairly strong theory that indicates the solar wind itself will offer some protection as it interacts with the upper atmosphere.

> The Ozone layer starts to get destroyed by the radiation as well.

Say what? Please show me a reference that shows ozone is destroyed by (ionizing) radiation.

> Microbes will be destroyed the radiation, food chains will collaspe.

Again, historically, none of this has ever happened from previous pole shifts. I wouldn't want to be working for a power company should the poles shift, but it isn't a mass extinction event like you are making it out to be... at least, based upon fossil records, there is no indication that it will be. (Nobody knows for certain...)

Edit: Doh! I thought this was in S&P. Apologies in advance for debating. Mod's, if this is too far over the line, please edit/delete my post. Sorry Blaze2, no disrespect intended.


Edited by Seuss (04/26/06 09:28 AM)


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: Seuss]
    #5558742 - 04/26/06 01:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Dude did I say MASS extiction thats only happened 5 times in all of earths historys. at teh same time many many times in history a population of animals is streached thin and there are bottle necks in the evolution of this species we had one upon exiting the last Ice Age. You can expect the same things to happen thought the world. Though most species will not go EXTINCT that does not stop large die offs in population as the weak are weeded out. Hard times in other words.

In addition to all that With global warming increasing more solar radiation will only accelerate it. I think they will be synergisticly destructive to the ecosystem. I know I have no proof, but everything with Global warming seems to be exponential in its rate of acceleration. And I cant imagine it slowing it.

I checked the ozone bit again and while I found a couple of htings nothing I would really call proof. Only time will tell it seems. in any event heres a good website I think http://www.theozonehole.com/magnetic.htm

It says it probrobly wont be as bad as I think.

Another dangerous effect will be radiation causing mutations in all DNA. Cancer rates will increase, etc etc.

I think when you look at each problem seperately its not hard to see how we will get through it, but at the same time when you take all the problems together you start realize its going to be a hard way to live.

Peace

blaze2

And no worries about the debate thing man. You gave your reasons why you think different no worries. Peace

blaze2


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: blaze2]
    #6028061 - 09/04/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

blaze2 said:
Another dangerous effect will be radiation causing mutations in all DNA. Cancer rates will increase, etc etc.




Haven't recent studies shown an increase of cancer rates already?


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: musicturkey]
    #6029177 - 09/04/06 06:37 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Kalki means "destroyer of time"

Revelation:10:6: And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: sleepy]
    #6044922 - 09/09/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

^ whats that revelation about?


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #6058082 - 09/13/06 06:02 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Man when this all goes down i hope im not outside i dont wanna get fried by the radiation


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: Shroom_Guy]
    #6059574 - 09/14/06 01:09 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

it is from the Holy Bible

Re:10:1: And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
Re:10:2: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
Re:10:3: And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
Re:10:4: And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
Re:10:5: And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
Re:10:6: And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Re:10:7: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Re:10:8: And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
Re:10:9: And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
Re:10:10: And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
Re:10:11: And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

***  END OF CHAPTER  *** REVELATION


what do you mean "what is it about".  were you wondering what it's from: the bible.  or wondering what does it mean

i think that you are all complicating this too much.  we are getting ready to live outside time which is to Truly Live.  and not just in our own homes.  people will be God-Intoxicated in the streets.  why does it matter if the GRIDS change or the sun sends out a huge burst of energy.  all that matters is what HAPPENS, and all religious prophecies and the present trends agree: which is that we are becoming more conscious.  the "2nd" coming of Christ is when you find Christ within you and attain the consciousness that Jesus had 2000 years ago.  this is the same as the ascent from Kali-yuga towards the Golden age where people are "spiritual", living in the spirit of Christ.  it is very simple.  sure grids might affect you, like the stars affect you right now.  ever notice how in the Gospels the deciples of jesus are always saying things like "glory in heaven" and "peace in heaven" and all this.  they were seeing God and had been resurected.  they were already in Heaven!  am i getting through?  what do you not understand.  remember when you ate all those shrooms and "time stopped" and suddenly you see the walls are moving.  but really, you see, usually nobody even sees the walls because they are thinking.  and thinking is the same as time.  so shrooms just stop the mind and time stops and you see "it".  IT.  okay?  :heart:

i just read back through the posts and realized i might have been drunk when i first posted.  do you all know Kalki?  Kalki is the Vedic answer for today.  the books written way back say that when people become really bad then Kalki will come and Kalki means "destroyer of time"


Edited by sleepy (09/14/06 01:38 AM)


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: sleepy]
    #6067600 - 09/16/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I've been reading 234982374982374 posts and articles about this topic and came to this conlcusion:

WHO CARES!!!!! IF IT HAPPENS IT HAPPENS! NO NEED TO BOTHER!! WORK ON MAKING THE PRESENT BETTER!


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #6070454 - 09/17/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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i believe with the first detected signs of tremors coming from deep within the earth, the extreme changes in weathern patterns and global temperature and the various signs coming to pass in 2006 are indicative of the closing of the cycle which takes place from 2006-2012. from the various information i have gathered ive managed to form some kind of sort of "theory" if thats what you will call it.

1. earth shifts electromagnetic poles: its a fact. it happens periodically, earth is long overdue for one by about a thousand years.
2. the sun shifts poles more often than earth, the last time this happened it spewed tons of radiation and ionized particles towards earth in 2000 seriously disrupting telecomunications. the next solar shift is scheduled sometime in 2011/2012.
3. if you were to have a simultaeneous earth and solar pole shift the result would be earth's loss of protective electromagnetic fields combined with tons of ionized radiation causing the complete annihlation of all electrical, sonar, satellite, and radio communications and systems. civilization as we know it would STOP.
4. the stopping of modern civilization will possibly result in humanity turning its focus towards matters of spiritual importance including the participation in what the mayans call the "second creation" which stems from the events scheduled for winter solstice 2012.

maybe not necessarily the final end, but a new beginning. in these next few years more signs will become apparent and it will be very interesting to say the least. im not spouting doomsday predictions and dark prophecies i just believe we as humans are straying from our proper evolutionary path and karma is about to kick in big time and turn us in the right direction. ask yourself this question today, as it will hold signifcant meaning in the next few years:

Do i live what i believe?




We are about to witness the biggest, "I told you so!" in history. For thousands of years, we have been a species of Masters & Slaves. That is about to end. Enlightened species from out there, are planning to come here on that date to give us a long needed heads-up. After that, we can begin sorting things out on our own, and we will do a much better job of it, after a few things have been put into perspective...


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: jcldragon]
    #6070565 - 09/17/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Seriously how do these predictions hold any more validity than the Y2K bug destroying our infrastructure and the expected coming of christ in 2000? We're part of the universe, the universe will go on forever, its all good. Whats here is here to stay, though it may change form, its here to stay. The worse that can happen to us as humans is we die, thats gonna happen anyhow, no matter what. Just live now, deal with 2012 when it gets here.


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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #6071293 - 09/17/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

apparently in 2011/2012 the various plates are also supposed to shift.


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It provides for all people
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Re: Polar Shift in 2012? the first signs in 06.... [Re: Cracka_X]
    #6082286 - 09/20/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I got a hundred dollars that says things will still be the same in 2013.


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Into my own parade, cast your dancing spell my way,
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