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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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blah blah birds of a a feather flock together. when it comes down it. that doesnt mean their not open to hang out with or chill with people not of that group. buts kinda like how people that are into hardcore techno heavily arent into happy hardcore and dislike candy kids.  personally i cant stand alot of those fuckers.


im just saying regardless people fit into labels and even stereotypes are true to a great degree.


i think its stupid to try to say that they dont exist or they should be ignored.  so like if you were shopping for a metal head you wouldnt go get then a kandi kid type elmo back pack.

but 9/10 kandi kids if they got an elmo backpack they would jump up and down all giddy


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: F hippies [Re: thedudenj]
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thedudenj said:
kinda like how people that are into hardcore techno heavily arent into happy hardcore and dislike candy kids. 


:macdre:

Damn I feel old.

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Re: F hippies [Re: mushroom people]
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mushroom people said:
thedudenj said:
kinda like how people that are into hardcore techno heavily arent into happy hardcore and dislike candy kids. 


:macdre:

Damn I feel old.


lol. happy hard core goes back tho.


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours

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Re: F hippies [Re: thedudenj]
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is happy hardcore synonymous to posi-hardcore? or is that scenester shit?


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Re: F hippies [Re: AnarchoTrip]
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happy hardcore



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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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Plasmid said:
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most people know hippies are harmless; that isn't what got acid illegal. The fact it helps break you away from this culture on the way to hell is.


I call ignorance on that.  Modern culture is not going to hell.  I think the world is improving.  Don't be such a doomsayer.  If you really think that culture is on the way to hell, then I think you may as well give up right now because psychedelic drugs are not going to turn the world around.

Anyway, even if psychedelics did help you break away from culture, one reason they're feared is because people thought psychedelics would turn everyone into hippies.  Americans have this bizarre fear of social ideas which they don't like: communism, homosexual marriage, hippies.  If communism is such a bad idea, then why be afraid of it?  If hippies are so bad, why bother paying attention?

Psychedelics don't help you break away from a culture unless you actively try to make them do so.  In many cultures, psychedelics helped integrate cultures.  The action of a psychedelic on ONE person and their relationship to any particular culture is not static.

I'm sorry but it irritates me that people could think that the modern world is such a horrible place and that, even if it is, that taking psychedelic drugs is going to turn cultures around.  The modern world is not perfect, but psychedelics don't have to be represented as tools for breaking the prison chains.  Why not try to change culture if you don't like it?  A culture is not some sort of building that you can dissolve with acid.  A culture is a dynamic product resulting from our interactions.  What you might call "breaking away" from culture could just as easily be looked at as being "rational improvement."

Even though I do think psychedelics are beautiful and everything, I do also think that would be dangerous to advice people to try bringing down a culture through using psychedelic drugs.

No drugs is inherently safe.  All drugs can be made safer.  Thank your lucky stars that you do live in a modern culture where you are allowed to openly talk about prohibited substances without fear of persecution.

Giving everyone LSD is not going to make the world a better place.


I probably am wrong on alot of points.
Things are bad now, mainly because of environmental chainge and the looming energy/water crisis. Things were bad back in the day too, no doubt, but there are some unprecidented issues today.
Psychedelics are tools, and just like a hammer, if you don't learn to use them they wont help. If people used them it may help society. Hellm give everyone a joint and alot of angry fucks would chill. The driving issue may be a problem though, with the drugs all about.
If that is where American values lie, I do feel sory for us. We are bigoted, economicly closed minded, and hate a subculture who is-in the end-wanting love and peace. I think if everyone learned to use these tools we have, then maybe they could help fix things, and if not, still allow people to have a nice look at themselves and the world around them from a differant perspective.
I babble a bit. My mostly feigned optimism is tough to hold onto at all really


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Fight for a large loving government that can take care of its people, kill our criminals, and preform the huge industrial tasks our corporate overlords refuse(wanna greenwash me some more Exon?)

Not this weak travesty that let millions starve and sucks corporate cock while failing at every turn.

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Re: F hippies [Re: doom876]
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doom876 said:
I think if everyone learned to use these tools we have, then maybe they could help fix things, and if not, still allow people to have a nice look at themselves and the world around them from a differant perspective.
I babble a bit. My mostly feigned optimism is tough to hold onto at all really


my point remains that if the stigma gets erased then a closer number of people to everybody will have access to the drugs that you call tools.

hell the whole world might have been better off if gangsters sold lsd.  they for sure would market it better.


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Re: F hippies [Re: truekimbo2]
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truekimbo2 said:
happy hardcore





thats weak happy hardcore tho.




i like the harder kind


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Re: F hippies [Re: pong]
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pong said:[/bhell the whole world might have been better off if gangsters sold lsd.  they for sure would market it better.


i think you are full of garbage. 

there are plenty of good hippies out there who will treat you right.  shame you don't get along with them.  of course, they could care less about someone who holds an opinion like yours with silly generalizations.

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Re: F hippies [Re: pong]
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I think your way overestimating how much "damage" hippies have done to the reputation of LSD.

I don't think if all the sudden acid was free of hippie association, that everybody would be running around trying it. It's still an extremely powerful drug, most people don't use extremely powerful drugs.

I also don't think they misrepresented the experience. Sure, some hippie stuff can get way too watered down and full of worthless nuances. But most of them touted it as a philosophical tool that allows you to explore the world and your mind. Which I think it is.

Don't be so quick to point the finger.
:shrug:


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Re: F hippies [Re: doom876]
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Psychedelics are tools, and just like a hammer, if you don't learn to use them they wont help.

Nah.

Hellm give everyone a joint and alot of angry fucks would chill.

Nah.

If that is where American values lie, I do feel sory for us. We are bigoted, economicly closed minded, and hate a subculture who is-in the end-wanting love and peace.

I'm not American and though I think that there are some bigoted, close-minded Americans (the GOP comes to mind), I also think you underestimate Americans.

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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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All I know is that I HAAAAATE when the shroomery displays the same kind of behavior we stand against.

I know this place isn't a utopia full of saints and never will be, but it's not hard to try and have a certain amount of standards.


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Re: F hippies [Re: PyroBurns]
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lol come on thats not happy hardcore?... genres evolve so fast.  i could defintely deal with a full night of that.  i need to get in shape so i can snort meth so i can have the energy to dance to something like that for 8 hours.


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Re: F hippies [Re: truekimbo2]
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I agree with Plasmid. Giving the world LSD isn't going to change much. Giving the world a joint, still isn't going to change much. People have to want to change, drugs aren't going to magically make that happen. I have a few friends who take acid quite regularly and continue to live a life of crime, violence, anger and hatred. These same friends smoke pot everyday. They also love fist fighting when they are stoned, or on some pills (presumably MDMA). On the other hand, my closest friends who use psychedelics with the same mindset as myself, as a tool for self-development, are some of the most selfless and accepting people I know. The only other type of people who I have met that give off such an amazing vibe, are hippes I have met at psychedelic concerts.

I said before I think a society with the right treatment and respect of psychedelics would be a better one. I believe this because with the right mindset, preparation or guidance, psychedelics can work wonders on people. But people have to be willing accept that these drugs can be used for self-development, and convincing this society of that would seem to be an impossible feat. But I believe a society with the right attitude towards psychedelics would be much better than the one we are living in today.

Edited by retrospect (11/19/08 06:09 AM)

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Re: F hippies [Re: retrospect]
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why are all you hippies talking about change?


im trying to talk about getting high.

you all are hippies this thread failed.


:kingcrankey:


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Re: F hippies [Re: PyroBurns]
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PyroBurns said:
All I know is that I HAAAAATE when the shroomery displays the same kind of behavior we stand against.

I know this place isn't a utopia full of saints and never will be, but it's not hard to try and have a certain amount of standards.


i hope ur not including me in your we


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