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OfflineBullfrog1
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Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down?
    #1474225 - 04/19/03 08:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I've always been torn between the 2. In the 60's as a child and into the early 70's as a teen, I was leaning WAY toward the hippie side. Then the Ramones, Pistols, DK and Black Flag establishment arose. I fell head (mohawk) over heels (jackboots) in love with the whole "anti" thing. I still love it and listen to the music.
I went thru the 80's thing listening to all music. The 90's sucked musically as far as I'm concerned. Now I listen to both the Dead/Airplane hippie stuff as well as my old stomping Agnostic Front/DK jams. Not to mention all rock in between.
I see far more tree huggers than mosh-pit maniacs here, and shrooms must be the reason why!

P.S. I must have too much testosterone!  :confused: 


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474238 - 04/19/03 08:16 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Why classify yourself? I listen to everything, from classic rock to alternative to punk to metal to electronica to hip-hop to jazz to classical to you-name-it. It's perfectly to simultaneously be into the Grateful Dead and the Ramones. I personally love both those bands.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474293 - 04/19/03 08:41 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I can kind of relate. I used to be in that whole punk thing. Then, eventually, the scene just died out and lost all of the real punks. It became another little fad and/or fashion.

Now I'm much more towards the "hippie" side. Altho i wouldn't say I'm a hippie. I may be friends with a bunch, but I don't really appear a hippie. When you get to know me tho... All my friends that are still punks call me a pussy/hippie both of which I am not. It's kind of nostalgic to listen to one of my old NOFX or DK albums now.

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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1474312 - 04/19/03 08:50 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

No, the 90's didn't suck for music... The early 90's brought some kick ass bands to the scene, RHCP, beck, Beastie's, Butthole surfer's, etc.. etc... etc...... But I know why you say that, I think it's because the 90's were plagued with terrible pop-music...


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1474336 - 04/19/03 08:57 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

the music you listen to shouldn't change your values and attitudes of life.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1] * 1
    #1474414 - 04/19/03 09:14 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

burn it down, after nailing a hippie to it.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1474440 - 04/19/03 09:17 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Im a hippie on the inside, but sadly am a lumped into the punk scene...social awareness is the common bond I see in both groups i suppose....however, the punk scene is rather pathetic now.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1474459 - 04/19/03 09:19 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I tend to lean towards being the guy on the bottom, although I work for Corporate America!  :ooo:

 

 


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474478 - 04/19/03 09:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Hippy...
Check my avatar LOL


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Invisiblefunkymonk
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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wyldtouch69]
    #1474552 - 04/19/03 09:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

is that what hippies look like or something?

Hippy is a state of mind, not an image.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wyldtouch69]
    #1474554 - 04/19/03 09:42 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I'm none of the above. I'm a little of both, but I dislike both to some extant.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1474598 - 04/19/03 09:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

funkymonk,
You're right. I DID look like the guy from the Exploited, pictured as the punk, so I guess that some hippies looked and still look like the Hippie dude. As a punk, for us to look as we did/do is a badge and a testament to society. I can't tell you how many times I got my ass kicked by both the police and by jock preppies for stating, visually, my beliefs. I loved it though! We fought as opposed to most hippies who are peacenicks. I loved fighting.A state of mind yes, also a lifestyle, if you can call it that. Anyway, both ways of dressing say something, don't they?

If none of what i say makes any sense, so what. This isn't a college exam. :wink: 


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474633 - 04/19/03 09:59 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Bullfrog,

No man that make's sense for sure. more so i'd say for the punk's then the hippie's though..It just bug's me to see these kid's, dressing to a stereotype and thinking this make's them this and that when it doesnt matter what they wear..It's all about your attitude and how you wear it right? being true to yourself and what you belive in make's you what you are, not the clothing....am i babbling?


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1475222 - 04/20/03 12:07 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Not babblin' funkymonk its what inside that counts, being true to yourself like you said. The whole...peacepunk generation is the new movement of hippie's in my mind. Seeking social reform, getting the message out there through music, and protest, Wearing their beliefs on the outside, and comprimising their own lifestyle's for what they believe.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: PDU]
    #1475529 - 04/20/03 02:16 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I beileive in pace love and all that stuff.
But If some one pisses me off or I see justin timberlake I just loose the plot and try to kill.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: trev]
    #1475581 - 04/20/03 02:46 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

You have an unhealthy obsession with Justin Timberlake.

Um, I'm kinda a hippie-punk.
Apparently I look like a punk though..
If my hair was a little longer I'd look like a hippie maybe.
It's dyed black though so people think I'm "goth" or "punk".
Hahah! Whatever.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Brugman]
    #1475738 - 04/20/03 05:54 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I wear the spikes, and the leather and the big boots and all that crap, but i am anti violence to the extent i would probably not defend myself unless i was seriously endangered in a conflict, for moral reasons. Stupid? Yes...but im good at avoiding conflict i suppose. I believe in recycling, and public transit, and being conscious of what products i purchase, I believe in being close with nature, being self sufficient as much as possible, and being socially and enviromentally conscious as much as possible.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1476181 - 04/20/03 10:15 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I've been listening to psychedelic garage punk from the 60's. It's the missing link between psychedelia and punk rock. I feel it's audio evidence of the link between "hippies" and "punks".



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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1476246 - 04/20/03 10:42 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

There is psychedelic punk. Lots of it. Certain punk scenes had lots of acid flowing through them. Naturally, their interpretation of the experience is quite a bit different than the 60's happy flower version. Think Sgt. Peppers vs. Locust Abortion Technician. I'd say they're both psychedelic sounding albums, but that's pretty much the only similarity you're going to find.

You can be a leftist tree-hugging punk if you want. Punk and hippie are an aesthetic, and not really a set of ideals. You'll find the whole spectrum of political ideas throughout the punk world. There's straight-edge, nazi-punk, leftist punk, whatever you want, really.


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Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Phluck]
    #1476565 - 04/20/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

MC5 and some early throbbing gristle are what i believe as early psychadelic punk...and the consequence of acid.


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