Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco All-in-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4  [ show all ]
OfflineBullfrog1
Discovery BeyondImagination

Registered: 07/03/02
Posts: 272
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down?
    #1474225 - 04/19/03 08:11 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I've always been torn between the 2. In the 60's as a child and into the early 70's as a teen, I was leaning WAY toward the hippie side. Then the Ramones, Pistols, DK and Black Flag establishment arose. I fell head (mohawk) over heels (jackboots) in love with the whole "anti" thing. I still love it and listen to the music.
I went thru the 80's thing listening to all music. The 90's sucked musically as far as I'm concerned. Now I listen to both the Dead/Airplane hippie stuff as well as my old stomping Agnostic Front/DK jams. Not to mention all rock in between.
I see far more tree huggers than mosh-pit maniacs here, and shrooms must be the reason why!

P.S. I must have too much testosterone!  :confused: 


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474238 - 04/19/03 08:16 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Why classify yourself? I listen to everything, from classic rock to alternative to punk to metal to electronica to hip-hop to jazz to classical to you-name-it. It's perfectly to simultaneously be into the Grateful Dead and the Ramones. I personally love both those bands.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleArmFromTheAbyss
Old Hand

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 1,368
Loc: Down here in Babylon
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474293 - 04/19/03 08:41 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I can kind of relate. I used to be in that whole punk thing. Then, eventually, the scene just died out and lost all of the real punks. It became another little fad and/or fashion.

Now I'm much more towards the "hippie" side. Altho i wouldn't say I'm a hippie. I may be friends with a bunch, but I don't really appear a hippie. When you get to know me tho... All my friends that are still punks call me a pussy/hippie both of which I am not. It's kind of nostalgic to listen to one of my old NOFX or DK albums now.

Fuck it, you are you.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefunkymonk
Get's down, withthe get-down.
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 8,160
Loc: saskatchewan
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1474312 - 04/19/03 08:50 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

No, the 90's didn't suck for music... The early 90's brought some kick ass bands to the scene, RHCP, beck, Beastie's, Butthole surfer's, etc.. etc... etc...... But I know why you say that, I think it's because the 90's were plagued with terrible pop-music...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleCaptain Jack
i [heart] you

Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 4,113
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1474336 - 04/19/03 08:57 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

the music you listen to shouldn't change your values and attitudes of life.


--------------------
-
Captain Jack has been hailed as a brilliant scholar, discredited as a brilliant fraud, and mistaken for a much taller man on several occasions.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblewingnutx

Registered: 09/24/00
Posts: 2,287
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1] * 1
    #1474414 - 04/19/03 09:14 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

burn it down, after nailing a hippie to it.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePDU
travel kid vs.amerika
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 10,675
Loc: beautiful BC
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wingnutx]
    #1474440 - 04/19/03 09:17 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Im a hippie on the inside, but sadly am a lumped into the punk scene...social awareness is the common bond I see in both groups i suppose....however, the punk scene is rather pathetic now.


--------------------
GO OUTSIDE.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBullfrog1
Discovery BeyondImagination

Registered: 07/03/02
Posts: 272
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1474459 - 04/19/03 09:19 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I tend to lean towards being the guy on the bottom, although I work for Corporate America!  :ooo:

 

 


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewyldtouch69
You heard ofhell well i wassent from it

Registered: 09/25/02
Posts: 2,817
Last seen: 15 years, 10 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474478 - 04/19/03 09:24 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Hippy...
Check my avatar LOL


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefunkymonk
Get's down, withthe get-down.
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 8,160
Loc: saskatchewan
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wyldtouch69]
    #1474552 - 04/19/03 09:42 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

is that what hippies look like or something?

Hippy is a state of mind, not an image.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMurex
Reality Hacker

Registered: 07/28/02
Posts: 3,599
Loc: Traped in a shell.
Last seen: 16 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wyldtouch69]
    #1474554 - 04/19/03 09:42 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I'm none of the above. I'm a little of both, but I dislike both to some extant.


--------------------
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBullfrog1
Discovery BeyondImagination

Registered: 07/03/02
Posts: 272
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1474598 - 04/19/03 09:52 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

funkymonk,
You're right. I DID look like the guy from the Exploited, pictured as the punk, so I guess that some hippies looked and still look like the Hippie dude. As a punk, for us to look as we did/do is a badge and a testament to society. I can't tell you how many times I got my ass kicked by both the police and by jock preppies for stating, visually, my beliefs. I loved it though! We fought as opposed to most hippies who are peacenicks. I loved fighting.A state of mind yes, also a lifestyle, if you can call it that. Anyway, both ways of dressing say something, don't they?

If none of what i say makes any sense, so what. This isn't a college exam. :wink: 


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefunkymonk
Get's down, withthe get-down.
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 8,160
Loc: saskatchewan
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1474633 - 04/19/03 09:59 PM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Bullfrog,

No man that make's sense for sure. more so i'd say for the punk's then the hippie's though..It just bug's me to see these kid's, dressing to a stereotype and thinking this make's them this and that when it doesnt matter what they wear..It's all about your attitude and how you wear it right? being true to yourself and what you belive in make's you what you are, not the clothing....am i babbling?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePDU
travel kid vs.amerika
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 10,675
Loc: beautiful BC
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1475222 - 04/20/03 12:07 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

Not babblin' funkymonk its what inside that counts, being true to yourself like you said. The whole...peacepunk generation is the new movement of hippie's in my mind. Seeking social reform, getting the message out there through music, and protest, Wearing their beliefs on the outside, and comprimising their own lifestyle's for what they believe.


--------------------
GO OUTSIDE.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetrev
comming out of retirement
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 871
Loc: Aussie
Last seen: 13 years, 7 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: PDU]
    #1475529 - 04/20/03 02:16 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I beileive in pace love and all that stuff.
But If some one pisses me off or I see justin timberlake I just loose the plot and try to kill.


--------------------

Anonymous #14
[quote]There are billions of people on this planet. The world does not revolve around the united states, moron. I hope terrorists crash their collective cocks into your asshole. [/quote]

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBrugman
antisobrietarian
Male

Registered: 05/16/01
Posts: 15,887
Loc: the land up over
Last seen: 11 years, 10 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: trev]
    #1475581 - 04/20/03 02:46 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

You have an unhealthy obsession with Justin Timberlake.

Um, I'm kinda a hippie-punk.
Apparently I look like a punk though..
If my hair was a little longer I'd look like a hippie maybe.
It's dyed black though so people think I'm "goth" or "punk".
Hahah! Whatever.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePDU
travel kid vs.amerika
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 10,675
Loc: beautiful BC
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Brugman]
    #1475738 - 04/20/03 05:54 AM (21 years, 11 days ago)

I wear the spikes, and the leather and the big boots and all that crap, but i am anti violence to the extent i would probably not defend myself unless i was seriously endangered in a conflict, for moral reasons. Stupid? Yes...but im good at avoiding conflict i suppose. I believe in recycling, and public transit, and being conscious of what products i purchase, I believe in being close with nature, being self sufficient as much as possible, and being socially and enviromentally conscious as much as possible.


--------------------
GO OUTSIDE.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1476181 - 04/20/03 10:15 AM (21 years, 10 days ago)

I've been listening to psychedelic garage punk from the 60's. It's the missing link between psychedelia and punk rock. I feel it's audio evidence of the link between "hippies" and "punks".



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhluck
Carpal Tunnel
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/10/99
Posts: 11,394
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 12 hours
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1476246 - 04/20/03 10:42 AM (21 years, 10 days ago)

There is psychedelic punk. Lots of it. Certain punk scenes had lots of acid flowing through them. Naturally, their interpretation of the experience is quite a bit different than the 60's happy flower version. Think Sgt. Peppers vs. Locust Abortion Technician. I'd say they're both psychedelic sounding albums, but that's pretty much the only similarity you're going to find.

You can be a leftist tree-hugging punk if you want. Punk and hippie are an aesthetic, and not really a set of ideals. You'll find the whole spectrum of political ideas throughout the punk world. There's straight-edge, nazi-punk, leftist punk, whatever you want, really.


--------------------
"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePDU
travel kid vs.amerika
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/03/02
Posts: 10,675
Loc: beautiful BC
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Phluck]
    #1476565 - 04/20/03 01:52 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

MC5 and some early throbbing gristle are what i believe as early psychadelic punk...and the consequence of acid.


--------------------
GO OUTSIDE.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewyldtouch69
You heard ofhell well i wassent from it

Registered: 09/25/02
Posts: 2,817
Last seen: 15 years, 10 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1476643 - 04/20/03 02:38 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

chill, man. I don't look like that everyday, in fact I never looked at that pic and thought 'hippy' till I read this post and went to reply... and It came to me that I do look a little hippy-ish in my avatar pic.I would have replied hippy no matter what I looked like.

In fact, I mostly dress in Abercrombie&Fitch/Amercian Eagle/Hollister stuff anyway, doesn't make me a preppy. to tell the truth, I believe I even bought that bandana at American Eagle.

So it doesn't matter what you wear, I am aware of that.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: wyldtouch69]
    #1477111 - 04/20/03 06:04 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

The perfect cross of hippy and punk-THE MEATPUPPETS.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: PDU]
    #1477308 - 04/20/03 07:51 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

since when do punks cut down trees?


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblefunkymonk
Get's down, withthe get-down.
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 8,160
Loc: saskatchewan
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1477315 - 04/20/03 07:55 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

oh man punks are always cutting down tree's and making them into lumber around here...we call them LumberPunks, crazy people I says...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: funkymonk]
    #1477323 - 04/20/03 08:00 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

hippies suck, they smell bad and they dont know shit about anything. punks are useally a bit more educated regarding their political interests, so if i had to give myself a superfluous label, i would choose punk. cuz they drink hard and BREAK SHIT AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! FUCK YOU CORPORATE AMERICA!


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1477842 - 04/20/03 10:34 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

Hippies are the ultimate punks.

They were a huge threat to the government.

Punk rock wasn't BTW.



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1477894 - 04/20/03 10:55 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

Quote:

Hippies are the ultimate punks.

They were a huge threat to the government.

Punk rock wasn't BTW.



Then how come the Sex Pistols got banned from England for playing their version of "God Save the Queen" on the Queen's holiday?



--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Edited by silversoul7 (04/20/03 10:59 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMurex
Reality Hacker

Registered: 07/28/02
Posts: 3,599
Loc: Traped in a shell.
Last seen: 16 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1477986 - 04/20/03 11:34 PM (21 years, 10 days ago)

I consider myself a 'Zen Anarchist', so I think 'psychedelic punk' fits me. I'm not into the whole hippy thing, but I do mushrooms of course. Punks nowadays are totally NOT punks, they are conforming to the Punk scene which (correct me if I'm wrong) goes against what being a punk means.



--------------------
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1479015 - 04/21/03 12:43 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Quote:

Hippies are the ultimate punks.

They were a huge threat to the government.

Punk rock wasn't BTW.



Then how come the Sex Pistols got banned from England for playing their version of "God Save the Queen" on the Queen's holiday?






So you're saying punk rockers in the 70's were just as big of a threat to the government as hippies were in the 60's.



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1479022 - 04/21/03 12:46 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Hippies are the ultimate punks.

They were a huge threat to the government.

Punk rock wasn't BTW.



Then how come the Sex Pistols got banned from England for playing their version of "God Save the Queen" on the Queen's holiday?






So you're saying punk rockers in the 70's were just as big of a threat to the government as hippies were in the 60's.



No, I'm not. I'm saying that they were percieved as at least somewhat of a threat.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMadtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 21,287
Loc: The Ocean of Notions
Last seen: 8 months, 17 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1479028 - 04/21/03 12:47 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I never really related to the whole "punk" scene.  Of course, I'm not THAT old, so it was all like, NoFx and Dead Kennedy's, which I've been informed isnt REAL punk. But whatever...Tie Dye has always been my favorite color, and I'll always wish I was alive in the 60's.  :frown:  Its funny though, heh. Now I walk around with a big peace sign on my backpack, and like, Outkast playing on my headphones.  I think I'm confused....


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePhluck
Carpal Tunnel
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/10/99
Posts: 11,394
Loc: Canada
Last seen: 6 months, 12 hours
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1479038 - 04/21/03 12:52 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Dead Kennedy's don't count as real punk?


--------------------
"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Phluck]
    #1479044 - 04/21/03 12:54 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

That's news to me. I always thought the Dead Kennedy's were one of the greatest punk bands ever.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMadtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 21,287
Loc: The Ocean of Notions
Last seen: 8 months, 17 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1479063 - 04/21/03 01:01 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I dont know WTF I'm talking about. I dunno, people would always say "Thats just Skater Punk" or whatever. I have no clue. Thats just the vibe I always got from people....


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1479083 - 04/21/03 01:08 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

DK is not "skater punk." They're political punk.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleArmFromTheAbyss
Old Hand

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 1,368
Loc: Down here in Babylon
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1479109 - 04/21/03 01:19 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

DK was real punk.

Ironically, both punk and hippie are essentially the same thing. Responses. Responses to what's been going on in this country for a 100 years. Hopefully, when one analyzes both, they look at the bigger, broader problem. The problem is a shadowy evil force that's getting it's grip on nearly all facets of human life.

I'm not that educated on the whole hippie/peace movement.

However, the punk movement was a response to things like Reagan and the like. The underlying negative connotation is bred from the events of the 60's 70's and 80's, and the frustration of not being able to stop that evil force in the shadows.

Why does the peace/hippie movement have a positive connotation? I'm not sure, maybe because of things like lsd and the fact that that way of thinking was generally new. Unfortunately the hippie movement failed to take that new feeling and make fundamental changes to stop the machine. They had the best chance. Sure, they did make some changes, and did a lot of positive things; but they never really made the big change and got rid of what's been causing these responses.

We need a new movement. One that can look back at past attempts and can win this time. We're up against some mean people that are not afraid of killing people. What we need is organization, and for millions of people world wide to recognize that most problems and effects today are the result of a broader problem. You'll see it anytime politics come up with friends.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMadtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 21,287
Loc: The Ocean of Notions
Last seen: 8 months, 17 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #1479129 - 04/21/03 01:28 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I'm not sure you'll ever see another movement like the hippies. I mean, nowadays, the government couldnt care less if you protest. Look at what all the anti-war protesters accomplished...Jack Shit. And that was with the support of what? 40% of the american public? I mean, fuck it. Turn on, Tune in, and DROP OUT. Dont even TRY and fight. You'll just lose. Its hard to take on the most powerful country in the WORLD. I dont know, I'm rambling. Feel free to flame at will...


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOri
intoxicated

Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 1,883
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1479147 - 04/21/03 01:38 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

uh protesting this war is retarded
its been going on less than a month?
the hippies protested something that was going on like 20 years or something
and if you've ever seen SLC Punk, you'd know there is no way to fight the system from the outside, your best way it to fight from the inside and make something of your rebelious life

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMadtowntripper
Sun-Beams out of Cucumbers
 User Gallery

Registered: 03/06/03
Posts: 21,287
Loc: The Ocean of Notions
Last seen: 8 months, 17 days
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Ori]
    #1479150 - 04/21/03 01:41 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Yes, Yes. SLC Punk kicks ASS. I havent been able to find it since I moved here, at the movie rental store place. Bastards...Heroin Bob is my Hero.


--------------------
After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #1479207 - 04/21/03 02:16 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

"skate punk"...."political punk", useless labels

"if you've ever seen SLC Punk, you'd know there is no way to fight the system from the outside, your best way it to fight from the inside and make something of your rebelious life" ??????

so now we live our lives according to what MOVIES tell us????

psssshhhhhh.......no way to fight the system from outside eh...tell that to che and fidel.


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOri
intoxicated

Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 1,883
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1479244 - 04/21/03 02:27 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

outside = kids who sit around and drink just bitching about the outside...

theres people who watch the news and people who make the news
atleast hippies did something instead of complain like protest

Edited by Ori (04/21/03 02:28 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMurex
Reality Hacker

Registered: 07/28/02
Posts: 3,599
Loc: Traped in a shell.
Last seen: 16 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1479568 - 04/21/03 04:29 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I think the world could use a new form of Hippie/Punk.


--------------------
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleOri
intoxicated

Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 1,883
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Murex]
    #1479666 - 04/21/03 05:06 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

or instead of creating a new form, which would cause a lot of people just to do it because its cool, people can just be individuals without causing labels :smile:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Ori]
    #1479970 - 04/21/03 06:41 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

You can still be an individual while at the same time being unified in one thought with many people.



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1480008 - 04/21/03 06:49 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

what did hippies do, that punks didnt do, please clarify, i am reaallllly ignorant, did they have some sort of "revolution"? that the government didnt teach us about?


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1480153 - 04/21/03 07:34 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Punk and the peace movement were both movements about doing your own thing, but the peace culture was starting their revolution from the inside. That's the key. That's the most dangerous thing.

Love was the vehicle that the peace movement moved on. The punk movement didn't really have anything to ride on. Their minds weren't right. They didn't have a unifying agent like the "hippies" did.

Therefore, they were nothing more than pests to the government.



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBOBs
bobby digital

Registered: 07/24/99
Posts: 843
Loc: CO
Last seen: 9 years, 4 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Bullfrog1]
    #1480262 - 04/21/03 08:20 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I like to hug trees and chop hippies down.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineganjahead
Stranger
Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 10
Last seen: 19 years, 6 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: BOBs]
    #1480321 - 04/21/03 08:41 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

punk is not a fashion statement.
punk is not a style.
punk is NOT an attitude.

punk is not a fucking movie. fuck slc punk. being punk is anything but living your life according to a script.

on that note, i'd like to say that the one thing that binds all punks is a certain outlook on life, or a rejection of dogmatic 'thinking' at the least. it is also a social movement. it is a rejection of society's boundaries on the individual. it is trying to fulfill basic human social needs by forming a community which is aware of these ideals. it therefore requires one to respect the individuality of others. punk is supposed to be a celebration of humanity.

of course many who profess to be punk do not share this outlook and end up forming their own little cult around the word. i used to be one of them. go ahead, get high and get drunk, fight and fuck shit up. beat up on fags, beat up on those different than you. punk by the book. but, what is punk then?

punk is nothing.
punk is fashion, attitude.
or could there be more to it?


i'm high, i cant believe i wrote all this.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePynchon
Slow Learner

Registered: 04/28/01
Posts: 578
Loc: New Zealand
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: ganjahead]
    #1481924 - 04/22/03 09:23 AM (21 years, 8 days ago)

Punk as a "movement" (ie, after Malcolm Mclaren invented it -- the only hint the yanks gave of such a thing at the time was, what, Richard Hells "Blank Generation"?) was just a rejection of the cliche hippie archetype -- pseudo-mysticism, self-righteousness, naivete, hypocrisy etc. I don't think there was any big sociological importance to it...the hippies had basically destroyed themselves by then and their younger siblings were probably pretty cynical about the concept of a "youth movement", "revolution" bla bla bla. Punk didn't promise anything, didn't even ask anything, so it's easy to see how it made the transition from dingy clubs in London and New York to top 40 status within a few months. The political stuff was an afterthought, at least at first, because it was mostly a rationalisation for being...well, nihilistic punks. I'd say "God Save the Queen" had about as much political impact/motivation as Steve Jones (?) had by saying "fucker" on live TV.

Punk as music is older than the hippies. It's not some extremist form of rock 'n' roll. It is rock 'n' roll. But there was just so much bad music in the seventies it seemed new, I guess.

So...the hippies devolved into a total joke before abandoning their ideals completely, and the punks couldn't think of anything better to do than mock them for being so wrapped up in their middle-class hedonism to think that it could turn out any other way.

Who the fuck would want to be like either one of them?

(in thirty years, someone will be starting this same thread, except it'll be ravers/Phish fans vs metallers/garage rock fans...)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Pynchon]
    #1485122 - 04/23/03 01:50 AM (21 years, 8 days ago)

fuck that, no one "invented" punk, malcolm mclaren is full of shit. i wouldnt even call punk a movement, it was just a cultural phenomenon, and a style of music. it was inevitable actually, if one looks at the evolution of rock.


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisiblePynchon
Slow Learner

Registered: 04/28/01
Posts: 578
Loc: New Zealand
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1485346 - 04/23/03 06:38 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Is there an echo in here?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineI_Fart_Blue
Stranger

Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 3,495
Loc: SItting on the Group W Be...
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1485626 - 04/23/03 09:56 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Ok, who the hell are these folks?





You will probably know LF.


--------------------
"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinegreenhaze
one toke overthe line

Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 514
Loc: the severed garden
Last seen: 18 years, 4 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1486148 - 04/23/03 12:56 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

To all of you:  who gives a fuck?....oh, i guess you all do... That's cool...have fun and peace  :wink: 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRipple
Ripple
Male User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 21,014
Loc: the timbers of Fennario
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: greenhaze]
    #1486208 - 04/23/03 01:13 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

I'll chop down the tree if i need a fire for heat or kill animal if im hungry, but nature must be respected at all times. It's a true wonder and waste of our natural resources just kills me.


--------------------
The bus came by and I got on that's when it all began!


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineLearyfanS
It's the psychedelic movement!
Male User Gallery

Registered: 04/20/01
Posts: 34,228
Loc: High pride!
Last seen: 1 hour, 8 minutes
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1486247 - 04/23/03 01:26 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

That's the Talking Heads, New Wave band.



--------------------
--------------------------------


Mp3 of the month:  Sons Of Adam - Feathered Fish


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineI_Fart_Blue
Stranger

Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 3,495
Loc: SItting on the Group W Be...
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Learyfan]
    #1486273 - 04/23/03 01:31 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Yes the Heads, though I think they are really lumped into the new wave/punk/alternative movement of the mid seventies instead of just being classified as new wave.


--------------------
"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

Edited by I_Fart_Blue (04/23/03 01:35 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1486492 - 04/23/03 02:35 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

if we wanna talk music styles that have political relevence, we should talk hiphop, because no other style has had as much societal impact.


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineI_Fart_Blue
Stranger

Registered: 06/25/02
Posts: 3,495
Loc: SItting on the Group W Be...
Last seen: 20 years, 3 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1486499 - 04/23/03 02:36 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Well, I ran across these two quote from Jello Biafra and are kinda relevant to not only what Lf and I were talking about, but the whole "punk movement" thing as well. Thoughts from an insider:

"Originally, every band sounded different. Now it's been put into these narrow parameters. A band picks a style, plays in nothing but that style, and puts intelligent members of their audience to sleep . . . independence and freedom quickly became such a formula and book of rules . . . it wasn't fun anymore."

YTC: Do you think that the underground now is just good as the underground was in the past?

JB: It can't really be compared, I mean it was more diverse earlier because the small number of different kinds of mutants who were all united in wanting to destroy seventies culture, and re-open consciousness on issues that the yuppies went to sleep on. But bottom line it was always more entertainment then movement. It could spawn movements, but Punk was never a fucking movement. You can't call something as diverse as, like, in the early days Blondie and the Talking Heads being called Punk, all the way up to Bad Brains, the Circle Jerks, Survival Research Lab, or, oh, I don't know, Blink 182, all being labeled Punk. That is not one movement. Add Crass in there somewhere, too, in the middle, I forgot the other extreme. So it's basically, it's more diverse now, which is good and bad, I mean, there's more and more people getting off their butt and trying to create music then ever before, but less and less of them seem to be pushing themselves to do something new that genuinely shocks the shit out of people.



--------------------
"A study of the history of opinion is a necessary preliminary to the emancipation of the mind. I do not know which makes a man more conservative-to know nothing but the present, or nothing but the past." -John Maynard Keynes

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBullfrog1
Discovery BeyondImagination

Registered: 07/03/02
Posts: 272
Last seen: 16 years, 5 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #1487313 - 04/23/03 07:34 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Punk is Music, Nothing more.

In the late 70's and early 80's, I used to hang out at CBGB's. The bands that I saw never had a record contract. I used to go to shows that would be considered 'punk' before the term even existed. Hell, one of the original bands considered 'punk', the Sex Pistols, stole the scene from NYC and stamped it with a rubber label, and took it back to England.
At CB's, bands would play 45- 90 second 'songs'. It was the most infantile kind of music that I ever heard, coming from a Zeppelin/Floyd background. I was blown away by it. The music was primitive.  4 or 5 chords at the most and fast as shit! I remember going to a Ramones show in 77/78 before they were big. Not many people at CB's cared for them too much. It was teeny bopper music. Don't get me wrong, I have the albums! There wasn't any political agenda. Mostly social ones like being poor, how teenage life sucked, drinking and other.
I saw this music evolve. From CB's it spread to the Rock Hotel, Irving Plaza, Peppermint Lounge, and a host of other places. I witnessed the birth of this music.
I lived in Brooklyn but spent my weekends in Manhattan addicted to this new type of music. It was kinda like the Dead. One can't truly 'know' this music until you physically go to a show. What made CB's so great was the shitty atmosphere itself. You can't buy that from Polydor records. :grin: 


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblesilversoul7
Chill the FuckOut!
 User Gallery

Registered: 10/10/02
Posts: 27,301
Loc: mndfreeze's puppet army
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1487810 - 04/23/03 10:55 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

if we wanna talk music styles that have political relevence, we should talk hiphop, because no other style has had as much societal impact.



I admit that it has had great social impact, but I think folk and rock in the late sixties did as well. It spread the ideas of peace, mind-expansion, and the sexual revolution. Also, there was a time when Jazz stirred up a great deal of controversy.


--------------------


"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinerommstein2001
Rise ye Must!
 User Gallery

Registered: 05/10/01
Posts: 3,182
Loc: South GA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: PDU]
    #1487948 - 04/23/03 11:53 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)


I'm an oldie punker/metalhead all the way, but I don't want to chop the trees or hug them, I don't give a damn either way...


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinedickdeadly
rælity

Registered: 04/05/02
Posts: 5,672
Loc: in my mind
Last seen: 12 years, 3 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Pynchon]
    #1488022 - 04/24/03 12:20 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

i dunno, i guess i am a part of the culture somewhat. i am listening to my nine shocks terror 12" right now, but i also listen to industrial, reggae, classic rock, jazz, metal, im dling Mos Def right now. punk will probably be #1 for me, maybe tied with KMFDM, but i refuse to be in a rut that i can?t say or do or think anything out of the punk box. shhiiiit.


--------------------

Character is how you act when you think no one is watching

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: silversoul7]
    #1488121 - 04/24/03 12:55 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

This is how I see punk rock.I believe my father was actually part of the orginal punk culture (he has some great stories).In the early,mid seventies rock was huge and most of the larger bands were playing in huge stadiums.As a result,once reasonably priced concert tickets,were becoming unaffordable to poor inner city youth,such as my dad.Bands were also being overhyped and were becoming alienated from their fans.A few people in New York,and according to my father,other cities like Philadelphia (where my father grew up),Boston,and Baltimore said fuck the corporate rock machine,fuck the overpriced tickets,and fuck the bands with their inflated egos.We don't need that shit,we can make our own scene.So people started forming bands (some good,many bad) and started playing in small clubs for cheap or even sometimes free.The band was seen as on the same level as the fans.It was common for people to sit in and play with the bands,jump on stage,and even hang out with the band after the gig. The only common thread that held the punks together was the DIY attitude,their hatred of corporate America,and their love of music.That's all punk originally was.It wasn't some grand philosophical movement or anything.People just wanted to be able to see affordable live music and have a good time.Any common way of dress or way of speaking,etc.. was probably unintended and coincindental.The original punkers were mostly poor,inner city males,so things like ripped jeans,heavy work boots,and leather jackets were common.Most people in the subculture probably felt alienated from "normal" middle/upper class America,so they started wearing wacky hairstyles and things like that to piss people off.It wasn't a uniform,or a bunch of dogma,it was just the was things evolved.Mainstream corporate America caught on,like they always seemed to do,and marketed a bastarized version of punk rock that only had a superficial resemblance to the original.At this point,people gave punk rock up and became bitter old men (like my father),sold out,or went further underground.
The same thing that happened to punk probably happened to the original hippies,and a lot of other subcultures.
Besides some superficial and philosophical differences,I think punk,the hippies,the beats,early jazz,and hip hop culture are a lot more alike than different.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Edited by grandmasterfat (04/24/03 01:04 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleAdom
Totally Nude
 User Gallery
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 10,877
Loc: Way Up North
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1488818 - 04/24/03 09:16 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Maybe in your lifetime.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMurex
Reality Hacker

Registered: 07/28/02
Posts: 3,599
Loc: Traped in a shell.
Last seen: 16 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Adom]
    #1489536 - 04/24/03 01:02 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Are Ravers considered modern-day hippies? Are skaters modern-day Punks?


--------------------
What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineatomikfunksoldier
T'was born oftrue in the yearof the cock!

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 1,500
Loc: a human-infested anthill
Last seen: 20 years, 7 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Murex]
    #1490551 - 04/24/03 05:46 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

no, ravers are modern day losers...hehe no just kidding. skaters are just skaters, they sk8, they have fun, they re-interpret the urban landscape and make a dull place a fresh funk zone.


--------------------
enjoy the entertaining indentity i have constructed for you while you can.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinemonoamine
umask 077(nonefor you)

Registered: 09/06/02
Posts: 3,095
Loc: Jacksonville,FL
Last seen: 18 years, 6 months
Re: Hippie or Punk? Hug a tree or Chop it down? [Re: Murex]
    #1490777 - 04/24/03 06:55 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

Are Ravers considered modern-day hippies? Are skaters modern-day Punks?




IMO,their non loathing of technology aside,I think the earlier ravers like the London scene in the late 80's and the New York scene in the early to mid 90's were very much like the hippies.Then like any other subculture,the media and the larger public caught on and a commercialized "bastardized" version took over.Now raves are large money making events.Most people don't give a shit about the scene,they're just there to get fucked up and meet members of the opposite sex.
And skaters,well the only prerequesite to be a skater is that you skate and you actually enjoy doing it.That's about it.


--------------------
People think that if you just say the word "hallucinations" it explains everything you want it to explain and eventually whatever it is you can't explain will just go away.It's just a word,it doesn't explain anything...
Douglas Adams

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4  [ show all ]

Shop: Myyco.com Isolated Cubensis Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags by Magic Bag   OlympusMyco.com Olympus Myco All-in-One Grow Bags   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Bridgetown Botanicals CBD Concentrates


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* What exactly is a hippie?
( 1 2 all )
StrandedVoyager 12,901 36 07/13/09 01:55 PM
by Fisherman
* Hippies
( 1 2 all )
Anonymous 4,555 30 06/18/04 10:22 PM
by beatlebangboy
* emo, hippie, or other?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
frostbitten 5,315 72 04/21/07 07:53 PM
by serendipitythenot
* Just a Punk reviews some shroomery.org Trip Reports Just a Punk 1,766 5 11/30/04 07:16 PM
by Learyfan
* All You Punks
( 1 2 all )
Sick_Of_It_All 3,576 30 05/20/04 11:28 AM
by Slite
* Your reasons for hippie hatred
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
HyphalTryptamin 9,314 111 04/26/06 09:04 AM
by BatCountry
* Are you a hippie and if so what does that mean? Srirachi 571 3 12/01/05 02:09 AM
by dr0mni
* Fifteen, Jeff Ott, and other intelligent Berekeley punks...
( 1 2 all )
AbstractHarmonix 2,124 24 07/01/05 12:59 AM
by AbstractHarmonix

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
8,547 topic views. 5 members, 33 guests and 37 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.039 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 12 queries.