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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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Wow, do you ever think about anything you read or do you just read it and go with the first bunk thought you come up with?

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I don't see how you think you can know this.  Even if it's true, so what?  Take 5 hits and you've gotten to 125 - 250 micrograms.


We were not talking about 5 hits genius, we were talking about eating 2.  All I'm saying is off the maximum dose that two white hits could be ( 100 mics ) you would not even come close to understanding the full potential of LSD.

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LSD is not a spiritual tool. 
LSD should be respected.


Spirit is whats within YOU.  If YOU think LSD is a tool, then so be it.  Fuck, the morning newspaper is a spiritual tool to some people.  If spirit was what one person said it was then a hell of a lot of people would be wrong about practically everything.

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So don't you think that kind of thing happens when people also take LSD and EXPECT it to be a spiritual tool?  If you expect a spiritual experience with lots of insights, isn't that what you're likely to get?  We're talking about a very powerful mind altering drug.



That's exactly what I was saying professor.  People add that it's handled with love and it adds to the experience....jees you're bright....



If there's one thing I hate about the shroomery it's all the fucking kids in here these days trash talking everything this site is based around and all the people here.  People need to learn to take baby steps instead of giant leaps and they might pick up more along the way.......people miss so much thinking they know everything.......

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Re: F hippies [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
We were not talking about 5 hits genius, we were talking about eating 2.


I must have missed that.  Can you point it out to me?

I'd also like you to tell me how you know that the two (hypothetical?) white hits you're talking about are 25 - 50 micrograms.

All I was saying is, so what if the doses are that low?  I'm sure everyone has had acid that varies in potency and most of us have probably figured out that if the acid you get gives you an experience that is too weak, then you simply take more.

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Spirit is whats within YOU.  If YOU think LSD is a tool, then so be it.


I don't consider myself spiritual so I can't call something a spiritual tool.  There is this internal part of myself that is narratized which I think would be the closest thing I have to being "spiritual" but that's not what I consider it.  I don't believe that I have a spirit.  I don't think I'm spiritual.  I don't believe other people have spirits either, so I can't believe that LSD is a spiritual tool.

And you're right, if you want to believe that LSD is a spiritual tool, then that's up to you, but you more or less asked a person who's had a powerful LSD experience to say that LSD is not a spiritual tool, so I said it.

If I misunderstood you, well, you have to remember that this is text and I can't hear your voice.  Sometimes people tell me about how shitty my tone is when I typed a response with the complete respect of the person I was replying to in mind.  It happens.  Text doesn't have the same qualities. 

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If there's one thing I hate about the shroomery it's all the fucking kids in here these days trash talking everything this site is based around


When I was a teenager, I believed in a lot of the ideas that members of the Shroomery also believe in (what I call "psychedelic idealism").  I am no longer a teenager and I no longer believe those ideals.  I am certainly no kid and I try not to trash talk everything.  I think I said that LSD should be respected.  I also do try to provide accurate information, which is largely what this website is about.  Sometimes, in my responses, I push what I'm saying to an extreme just to provoke people and I see it worked with you.  I think that the "kids" around here are likely to be idealistic about psychedelic drugs and are express relatively high opinions of those drugs.

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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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elaboration

the myth is that acid is a hippie drug.  IT IS NOT. 

i had my first experience of wight on wight from san francisco and i ate 2 hits.  I felt like i was on some amphetamines and some awesome trippy fractal shit. 

enlightenment my ass. 

shrooms are for that

acid is so much nicer and more fun and i would suggest everyone to take a shitload and just go out to party.  The colors and fractals are some shit i will always come back for.




I'm mainly referring to the OP when I left my original thread......more so agreeing with you along the lines of "extended family" being the ones spreading the myths and talking the bullshit.

Pong would be the kid I'm referring to ( though you do come off like a 16 year old whos pissed at his mom for something ).



'd also like you to tell me how you know that the two (hypothetical?) white hits you're talking about are 25 - 50 micrograms.




Because I once upon a time knew someone who laid L at 100 mics a hit, and knew for a fact they were laid at this.  The White on white that floods this country ( I've had it on every side of our country ) is the same, and it is all about half the potentcy of 1 of the 100 mic hits. And I've eaten L a little over 500 times, so I can at least judge which is stronger, and usually round about how much.


This conversation turned arguement is utterly ridiculous, and if you ever want to prove a point to anyone in life, you should try doing so in an intellectual way, instead of abrasively shoving your " facts" down their throat. 

There is only love in something if you think there is.  The whole glory of existence is you make it.  You believe what you want, do what you want, hear and say what you want, and feel what you want.  It's good to know you would rather have an empty experience and feel nothing, but others are quite the opposite, and live to experience everything possible, not just be here....

Good luck.

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Re: F hippies [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
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I don't see how you think you can know this.  Even if it's true, so what?  Take 5 hits and you've gotten to 125 - 250 micrograms.


We were not talking about 5 hits genius, we were talking about eating 2.  All I'm saying is off the maximum dose that two white hits could be ( 100 mics ) you would not even come close to understanding the full potential of LSD.




you are full of misinformation my friend, some of the white on white that floats around is a hell of a lot more than 25-50 mics (oh and btw, 50 mics is a threshold dose, you don't get visuals or even very much of anything on 50 mics.)  in my opinion (and experience) some of the white on white floating around is probably more like 125-150 mics a piece, i have ate 3 different white on whites, in varying conditions, at various times, so tolerance was no part of it (potency and paper type really told them apart) in the last 6 months and 2 of the variety's are def. from the same source, and its not over seas.

back to the topic though.

personally, i don't really care either way about hippies, most people classify me as a hippy (just by looks and musical choices) but truely, i am very far from it.  i work a lot (40-60 hrs a week) and still have responsibilities.  now i really do hate anti establishment bullshit hippies who smoke pot all day long and complain how awful the government is when they aren't going to get off their asses to provoke change and "hippies" (i prefer the phrase trustifarians) from generation x ( the 18-28 age group at the moment) who drive nice cars and mommy and daddy are giving them several hundred dollars a week so they can go and buy the headiest clothes, glass pieces and grass all while going to college and complaining about how hard their courses are because they are too high to pay attention in class.

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Re: F hippies [Re: Plasmid]
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Plasmid said:
retrospect said:
And IMO a society that had that kind of respect and treatment with psychedelics would be a better one. 


Why?


Charles Manson was an acid head.

I would rather live in a shamanic society even though they aren't all perfect. I always wanted to be an Indian and have peyote rituals.

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Re: F hippies [Re: smokeybear]
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Once again people just underestimating acid.

25 ug is a threshhold dose.  50 will produce visuals, 100 will def give you visuals......so eat 2 hits and you got some damn good visuals......

Trust me, the WoW is weaker than you think....And I've have tried a few different kinds.

There was a batch I got roughly 3-4 years ago that was a hell of a lot more potent than anything that goes around today, probably closer to 100.  If the WoW was 100 mics you'd be able to eat a quarter of a hit and get noticable effects.......I'm sorry to say you can not do that.



It's funny cause every single person will give you the "facts" about lsd and nobody really knows.  You don't know the direct source for the WoW, because it's far far down the chain where the crystal is coming from.  That paper is all over the country, a lot of people get it mailed out of cali and various other states and claim that's where it's being made, laid, whatever....but really have not the slightest cause it's all hearsay.

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Re: F hippies [Re: smokeybear]
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stop with the potency because nobody knows except the dude that laid it.

unless you are him you simply dont know and cannot know.


i dont care if you have met a dude who says he knows for a fact because that is hearsay and that means absolutely nothing to me. 


im glad LSD has a bad rep.


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Re: F hippies [Re: usefulidiot13]
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vandago i do think you are right by saying most wow is way under 100mics per hit though.

i have to take 3 hits of that shit to even have a somewhat fun trip.

i wont even take lsd in small amounts of hits anymore because its not even worth it.


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Re: F hippies [Re: usefulidiot13]
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i have to take 3 hits of that shit to even have a somewhat fun trip.


You re exactly right.  The ones I had that I know to truley be 100 ( not WoW, but a print ) , are about twice as stronger as 90% of the WoW I've had.  And I've eaten the WoW over 50 times in the last 4 years.  When I first started getting it I was like, " Wow this shits gotta be over 100 ug " ,  and the more I tripped and got used to LSD the more I realized that each of these hits was a babystep. 


I'd have to say most the WoW is al about profit, and instead of laying a G to 10 ten packs, they lay a G to 20 ten packs, and get a lot more loot out of it, that's all specualtion though, no one really knows.

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Re: F hippies [Re: usefulidiot13]
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In 1980 I could do 2.5 hits and achieve the same as a 10 strip or more of WOW. Same with the gel tabs from 1998, they were 5x as strong as the the WOW.

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Re: F hippies [Re: weiliiiiiii]
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weiliiiiiii said:
labels are gay

whats a hippie anyways?

its not the music you listen to or how you dress that makes you a "hippie"

i have friends who listen to metal and dress that way to, they share the same beliefs as me...are they hippies to?



like if umm labels suck why not call all mushrooms shrooms right cause you dont want to give em labels based upon how they act and look right.


things get labels for a reason i say just be proud and happy about what you are and just be you cause its not like your being the label your just being you.


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Re: F hippies [Re: pong]
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pong said:
for giving the best drug in the world the worst reputation.


goddamn 'family' lulz.

we need to break the hippie to acid, acid to hippie connection.


/endrant
/lsd pwns
/hippies let it feed their ego (it totally does)


Negative energy from this post. Maybe you should keep your ego in check, too.


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I've been knocking from the inside.” - Rumi

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” - Carl Sagan

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Re: F hippies [Re: pong]
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Plasmid said:
vandago said:
We were not talking about 5 hits genius, we were talking about eating 2.


I must have missed that.  Can you point it out to me?


vandago said:
HAHAHA, you think you know LSD after taking two WHITE on WHITE ( not wight dumbass ) and seeing some fractals?


pong said:
i had my first experience of wight on wight from san francisco and i ate 2 hits.  I felt like i was on some amphetamines and some awesome trippy fractal shit.



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Re: F hippies [Re: usefulidiot13]
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usefulidiot13 said:
vandago i do think you are right by saying most wow is way under 100mics per hit though.

i have to take 3 hits of that shit to even have a somewhat fun trip.

i wont even take lsd in small amounts of hits anymore because its not even worth it.


we must be getting different white on white, i have seen experienced people lose it on 3, a very good friend who has ate 10s at a time lost it on 7 (in the same set and setting he has been in many, many times), and most people i have discussed the paper with refuse to eat more than 2 at once (my self included)

i realize you guys have ate quite a bit more than i have, but i think you guys are maybe expecting too much.  set and setting play into it a lot.

i ate 2 WoW 2 weekends ago now at a friends house, hung out, watched some planet earth and pans labyrinth, had a great trip, very visually stimulating and great vibes the entire time, one of my better trips and def. one of the most visual.

i ate 2 more this last weekend (2 weeks should be more than enough to drop my tolerance) and did the same thing, but a different set and setting.  i didn't trip as hard (was at my house with a lot of tripping folk, usually play the sitter because i still tend to be very rational while tripping) but they were from the exact same batch and my visuals were not as intense and neither was the body high, but i think it was because i was surrounded with people, while i wasn't worrying about them, it was still in the back of my mind to make sure everyone was ok, see if they were thirsty, etc, just play a good host you know.

i realize this is rambling but i think that set and setting have such a huge roll in it that, if your mind wants to.  my first experience above was in a much more relaxed atmosphere with no worries, so i let go, let my mind play tricks and all of that.  but in the latter experience, i was uptight and semi worried about those around me.

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Re: F hippies [Re: smokeybear]
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Trust me, 100 mics of acid will do a lot more to you than you think. 

Very experienced People can lose their shit on 150 mics, trust me I've seen it.

The WoW is no more than 60 mics, it's all over the country, I've had stronger batches and I've had weaker batches.  At the strongest I've had it, it's PROBABLY been around 60-70. 

Tell me what are you basing your mic guess at?  I for one have had several doses in which I've known for a fact what mic they are at, and I can base things around that.

Have you ever takin a dose you knew for fact what round about mics you've ingested?  If so then possibly we are getting different WoW but I doubt it.

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Re: F hippies [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
Trust me, 100 mics of acid will do a lot more to you than you think. 

Very experienced People can lose their shit on 150 mics, trust me I've seen it.

The WoW is no more than 60 mics, it's all over the country, I've had stronger batches and I've had weaker batches.  At the strongest I've had it, it's PROBABLY been around 60-70. 

Tell me what are you basing your mic guess at?  I for one have had several doses in which I've known for a fact what mic they are at, and I can base things around that.

Have you ever takin a dose you knew for fact what round about mics you've ingested?  If so then possibly we are getting different WoW but I doubt it.


friend has ate actual mic'd dose (was laid at 250 mics) and said half of one was about equal to 1 of the white on whites, so the answer is no, i haven't, but have friends that have and will agree on roughly how much they are.  also the white on white i am referring to is allegedly laid in GA, if you know your stuff is coming from overseas, it is probably totally different.

i wish i could find known micogram dose, i would really like to know how much i am eating and experience an actual amount instead of the guessing game i have to do.

hope your not taking my posts offensively, i am still relatively new to it (only about 2 years since first LSD trip) but i think i have a semi decent grasp on how much i am eating.

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Re: F hippies [Re: mushroom people]
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i was told my white hits were 100 mics.

i ate 2.

at one point i had no body.  i was lost in a changing wold of color. 

not all hits are bad. 

others who took 2 had full on psychotic symptoms and got all fucked up.


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Re: F hippies [Re: Frost]
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Frost said:
pong said:
for giving the best drug in the world the worst reputation.


goddamn 'family' lulz.

we need to break the hippie to acid, acid to hippie connection.


/endrant
/lsd pwns
/hippies let it feed their ego (it totally does)


Negative energy from this post. Maybe you should keep your ego in check, too.


maybe you should only post anonymously.

and i dont really want my ego in check.

and who are you to judge mr ego man?


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Re: F hippies [Re: vandago]
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vandago said:
HAHAHA, you think you know LSD after taking two WHITE on WHITE ( not wight dumbass ) and seeing some fractals?




i know it better than i did before i took it.

i know it better than those afraid to take it because of its reputation.

fuck spelling. 

you are mean.  and are part of what i am talking about.  putting this drug on a pedistal of greatness  is stupid.


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Re: F hippies [Re: pong]
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thats funny, i often get a sense of impending doom on mushrooms too.

acid is not kiddy stuff though.  to back up what vandango said, a good dose of lsd is like having your brain hooked up to a nuclear reactor instead of just plugged into the wall.

any experience with  "bruce banner" tabs vandago?  two and a half hits pretty much turned me off from acid, nothing else i've had has been at all comparable.  at the fifteen minute mark i was tripping as hard as the peaks of all my other acid experiences. 

i've been pretty scared of acid since then.


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