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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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one a feeling in the body rises, be aware of it
when a thought comes into mind, be aware of it
when a sound is heard, be aware of it
when no thought, feeling, sound, sensation rises and all is left the present
be aware of the present
and on...
and on

this is self-awareness IMO

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: deranger]
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I agree... but how is that not imaginary?


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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are we talking about my post, or the practice?

if you are talking about my post then I would agree

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: deranger]
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Your post... sorry I didn't quote ya'.


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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it's over!

imma pack the first bowl of the day now to conclude a great discussion, on an amazing thread  :peace:

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: deranger]
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You win!!!


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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no, you win for creating such an epic thread :wink:

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: deranger]
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I think there are physical components to their existence, science just hasn't described it yet. Meaning, emotion is imagination, but it is both metaphysical and physical, in the same way touch is metaphysical and physical. The sense of touch isn't a real thing, but it requires nerve endings, and some form of energy. Emotion seems to be a little further up the ladder, but it's all imagination in so far as what is experienced during the operation of the equipment. I think the spinal cord, and the branches hold the discreet mechanism(s), not just the brain, to create the experience of the lower chakras. If imagination is to be described as something occurring only in the brain, then I'd say no, chakras are not imaginary. At the same time, I'm not saying I agree with that statement.

Either way, what is felt (the evidence) is a discreet manifestation of emotional energy, and this could be passed off as the actual chakra, like calling water the pond. Chakras can't be seen, in the same way the mind can't be seen, and in the same way a pond can't be seen.

Ponds are just depressions in the ground with some water. It is the interaction between the solid material and the liquid that create "pond". In so much as anything is real, I'll say ponds are real, in a different way than a day-dream of a pond is real... while still knowing that a pond is just a relationship between water and earth.


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comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rahz]
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Either way, what is felt (the evidence) is a discreet manifestation of emotional energy, and this could be passed off as the actual chakra,

exactly my thought

although sometimes it feels more than an emotion

Edited by SyntheticMInd (07/21/08 01:40 AM)

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: deranger]
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it is shaped mental energy, which includes a body location mapping.
the shape of the energy is real, but the existence of it is in the cortex.
the shape of the energy is indirectly produced by what you think (or stage in your mind), and it is very dependent upon your effort to keep the mind focussed, in a sustained way.

some people deny the reality of things that are in another person's cortex, because they cannot touch them with their fingers.
or their fists,
or affect them directly by their casual efforts.
the shapes and forms that occur out of mental energy in the cortex, are not subject to easy external manipulation, yet.

as homeland security gets tighter, this may come sooner than later.
the efforts to cognitive liberty could become much more serious than what drugs we can take when we want them.


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Veritas]
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Lies!  That is Beverly Johnson.

Google lied to me!? She does look a bit thin. :razz:

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said:
It seems from reading this thread... that 'skeptics' AND many 'believers' agree that chakras do not physically exist. They are a tool of the imagination... to aid in allignment of the spine, the flow of the nervous system, the enjoyment of sex... and to aid in meditation.

It also seems there are several people out there who are affraid that IF chakras are CONSIDERED to be imaginary... the whole concept of chakras will stop working. Some people believe you must have faith, in order to get your imaginary chakras to work.

Further, it seems SOME people take their chakras very seriously... and consider people like me, who make threads like this to be the spawn of the devil.

Here's what I think:

Chakras are imaginary... but the nervous system is real. Chakras were invented before the nervous system was understood... and meditation on your imaginary chakras can be a mind blowing PERSONAL experience. Alligning your spine is ALMOST ALWAYS a good thing to practice.

I see nothing wrong with meditation... even if you meditate on imaginary things. I do see something wrong with claiming something imaginary is actually real... especially if you know better.

Chakras are sorta' like Santa Claus... for adults.


What exactly do you mean by alignment of the spine.  How exactly is this done procedurally?

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Psychonautics]
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Like most animals with spines... a human spine can stack up to support your body weight with minimal effort. However, unlike most animals, humans keep their spines out of alignment most of the time, they slouch for example.


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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Are you calling me a slouch potato? :crankey:

I will tune back in a year from now for your response.


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said:
Like most animals with spines... a human spine can stack up to support your body weight with minimal effort. However, unlike most animals, humans keep their spines out of alignment most of the time, they slouch for example.



How's chiropractic school coming along?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Icelander]
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Is there a certain way an aligned spine will feel as opposed to one that isn't?

Sorry for reviving the dead but my curiosity just gets the best of me (I'm a sloucher, my head leans foward, shoulder plates too far apart, mildly rounded shoulders, vision problems and unneeded tension).  If by learning how to align my spine I can learn to relax and alleviate or lessen these problems I'd be extremely grateful.

Edited by Psychonautics (01/30/10 07:10 AM)

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Psychonautics]
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I tried all my life. IMO not accepting myself as I was, was the real problem. Much worse then a little bend in the spine.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Icelander]
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My backbone is an S for spine. You should see what my brain looks like...


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Does it look like a "B"?


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Re: Chakras? Do they exist? [Re: Rose]
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That doesn't make sense. :nono:

You sure are a silly wabbit. :bunny:


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