Prisoner#1 said:

zouden said:

I'm sorry, how did we go from talking about Codex Alimentarius to Monsanto? Or did you just want to bring them up?

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things just kind of tie together when you stop looking at the pretty flowers, how is the government going to strip food of nutrition? they arent the farmer, the cant order the farmer to do it, he simply doesnt have the means or the will, so where would the government go to help achieve the agenda

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zouden said:

Prisoner#1 said:

cancer is on the rise, many explanations, foods being one of them

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Cancer isn't on the rise. It's decreasing.

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Prisoner#1 said:

zouden said:

Prisoner#1 said:

cancer is on the rise, many explanations, foods being one of them

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Cancer isn't on the rise. It's decreasing.

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Journal of Oncology Practice and the World Health Organization disagree with your claim, you're just being contrary
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2003/pr27/en/

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Quote:

CNN claiming vitamins are unhealthy:

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You need to pay closer attention.. the report is about overdose on said vitamins.  Go to the store and notice that many vitamin specific pills are ~15X the daily dose per tab.

When I see major agricultural corporations aggressively pushing their genetically modified and sterile products on farmers, increased use of un-vetted pesticides and herbicides, and the proliferation of these practices into the third world..  I see greed, not conspiracy. 

In the end, when I think about the state of humanity, it is impossible to reconcile our behavior against nature's absolute and unquestionable dominance over us.  There is no way that 15 billion people can live on Earth, as is projected by 2100.  At some point over the course of the next 100 years billions of people are going to die.  This is inevitable.  Count on this plague coming from India or China, where high densities of people live in direct proximity to high densities of livestock.  That proximity is a virtual Eden to new forms of avian flu making the leap to human-human communicability.  H5N1 was 50% lethal to humans and it evolved in exactly this fashion.  Enjoy the party now, because we are doomed.

You are the enemy.  You drive everywhere.  You heat your home.  You cool your home.  You buy plastics by the pound, daily.  You eat and drink out of plastics.  You eat bought meat.  You shower every day.  You shelter yourself from the elements.  You cover yourself in chemicals for vanity.  You buy food from the machine.  You are an obsessive consumer.  You are as separated from the natural conditions of life as an astronaut is separated from the earth's atmosphere.  In the last 300 years humanity has taken one giant step away from nature and the bulk of life on Earth, and you can be assured that the simple human body is not capable of adapting that fast.

It is simple evolution.  The fittest will survive.  Have you outfitted yourself?

guruu said:

I really think some of you are looking at a bunch of facts and stringing together an unfounded web of intent that just doesn't exist.  The American government isn't trying to make us sick so we're easier to control.  That's just stupid.  The decline in food quality is just another example of the growth of capitalism.  It sucks, and it's an example of the disgusting side of human nature.  But it isn't driven by any ill intent; as a matter of fact I think the reality that it's just a natural progression of human civilization is even more terrifying.

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zouden said:

Cancer is declining in the western world, but increasing in the third world. There's obviously a lot more work to be done.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4490271.stm
One example is bowel cancer which used to be extremely rare in Japan. But as the Japanese increasingly eat a westernised diet, rates of the cancer increase.

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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/03/20/cancer-rates.aspx
Six Reasons Why Cancer Rates Among Teens are on the Rise
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
    with Rachael Droege

Cancer is now the leading cause of death among teens and young adults after accidents in England. Among this 13 to 24-year-old age group, cancer rates have been increasing at a rate of 1.2 percent per year for the past two decades. The researchers mention genetic factors, lifestyle changes and exposure to toxins before birth as possible causes for the increase, but there are many more possibilities for the steady increase.

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guruu said:

The decline in food quality is just another example of the growth of capitalism. But it isn't driven by any ill intent

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guruu said:

I really think some of you are looking at a bunch of facts and stringing together an unfounded web of intent that just doesn't exist.  The American government isn't trying to make us sick so we're easier to control.  That's just stupid.  The decline in food quality is just another example of the growth of capitalism.  It sucks, and it's an example of the disgusting side of human nature.  But it isn't driven by any ill intent; as a matter of fact I think the reality that it's just a natural progression of human civilization is even more terrifying.

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Jack Albertson said:

That's just stupid

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guruu said:

It's more likely that there's a conspiracy as apposed to just good ol fashioned bullshit?  Explain.

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Prisoner#1 said:

there's no illuminati conspiracy, I could give a shit about
bilderbergers and free masons, the knight templar or the damned
aliens but quite franly if you dont see the actual conspiracy
against the public, you're blind

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Don't badmouth the reptilians Pris!  When they return you will be regretting those words!

Prisoner#1 said:

guruu said:

The decline in food quality is just another example of the growth of capitalism. But it isn't driven by any ill intent

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it's driven by profits and aided by the lack of accountability at the cost of our health

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